Bug-Proofing

MOOSE

Member
With relocation to Alabama, Rick and Donna asked me about the screen we have for our Bomar hatch in the V-berth. This got me thinking about the broader issue of bug-proofing, as we have learned, one screen won’t do it.

The MOOSE came to us with the regular-mesh hatch screen installed. ¾” Velcro had been glued around the perimeter of the hatch to match that sewn onto the screen. This is fine for mosquitoes, but we also had to make one out of finer, No-seeum netting for when those microscopic beasties are out. And of course, when they are, it means keeping the cabin window screens closed all night as well – a stuffy situation.

But there are other points of biting bug entry which aren’t as readily apparent. And just when you think you’ve got them beat, they find another way in to what initially appears to be a tight cabin. The biggest hole, of course, is where all the wiring passes through the cabin bulkhead. This we plug semi-permanently with a sponge which seems to expand enough to plug all the gaps. And then there’s the hole in the windlass where the rode passes though. We stuff it with a couple of paper towels. The shroud around the bilge pump (ours is on the starboard side under the bulkhead) needs to be duct-taped or sealed as well as the sump communicates with both the cockpit and cabin interior.

And just this week we observed that mosquitoes can crawl through the little gap at the back, bottom end of our window screen channel. The top seems well sealed, but the bottom needs a bit of nightly plugging.

And lastly, we learned that our Starboard cabin door had warped and bowed enough to provide less than a tight seal in one area. I’m currently working on that gap with some black silicone.

I know this might seem crazy to all you folks who live in relatively bug-free country, but it can make all the difference in getting a good night’s sleep. I’d be curious to learn how others of you cope.

Al
 
We used to camp on or near the windward shore down on the Gulf of Mexico. the steady sea breeze coming from the open Gulf kept all the bugs away. If the wind on a lake or the Gulf is coming from the land, then the bugs just seem to come along with the wind. So, I try to use fans as much as possible. John
 
Thanks, Al...a topic of interest to all who sleep out in buggy areas. Our hatch has no screen at all. The side windows have screens, and they should be ok for "normal" size biting stuff. So far, skeeters haven't been much of a problem here, at least at our home, probably because there's been almost no rain this summer. We are anxious to spend the night out on Lake Martin and are trying to get ready by bug proofing. Forgot about the cable passage area you mentioned...thanks! I'll get a piece of foam for that one.

We're looking at procuring screens for the hatch and the center window, but came up empty searching the net. Donna emailed the factory about a couple things and also asked about screens...we'll see what they have to say about the topic, too.

In the mean time, we picked up a pool noodle at Wallyworld for a buck 49 and I cut a piece to fit the bilge opening. I also plugged up the gaps in the anchor deck opening with that same type foam...works pretty slick
 
Just another great reason to live in Seattle. We're not bug free but skeeters are low and not too many biting flies either. Only thing that is occasionally and issue is yellow jackets. They're thick up and down the coast but are easily kept out with any screen.
 
Hi Folks,

It seams that the movement of air can eliminate most bugs. Wanderer, in their write up of cruising SW Florida, tells a story of waking up and running the C-Dory at top speed to get rid of the bugs.

I know this has been covered, but an idea to increase ventilation in the 22' C-Dory is to make a bug screen out of mosquito netting to fit over the open forward hatch. A chain slightly larger than the hatch is sawn into the base of the netting, with enough netting to cover the hatch when it is open.

Next, sew a piece of canvas so that the canvas fits over the hatch. You want to tie it down on the forward corners at the sides of the bow rail, and the aft corners at some place where the windshields meets the side wall of the cabin. This will keep out both bugs and rain.

Fred
 
Susan came up with a cheap fix for the front hatch. She found some bug screen cloth form a tent at the local thrift shop,$5. she then sewed that in the shape of the hatch in the open postion. at the base of this "hatch tent" she made a tube all the way around, then filled the tube with clean pea gravel. when ever we stop for the night we open the hatch and place the netting over it . It keeps out the bugs and allows the open hatch to catch some breeze and direct it towards us.

Also the best bug repealent in the world is " skin so soft" You dont have to get the bug spray just everyday skin so soft. The bugs hate it and its what we used in the marine corps in the field. better then off or any other oily type of bug spray. You also smell good.
 
starcrafttom":12ei7s5l said:
Also the best bug repealent in the world is " skin so soft" You dont have to get the bug spray just everyday skin so soft. The bugs hate it and its what we used in the marine corps in the field. better then off or any other oily type of bug spray. You also smell good.

Sorry, just the thought of a bunch of no-neck Force Recon marines sitting around discussing "Skin So Soft" has me, well,
roflmao.gif


Thanks for the tip though.

Don
 
Tom is target on with the skin so soft... but it "did" have a tendancy to make ya bit "home sick"... It is clean stuff to use too.

Now, I just had my wive's friend who is an Avon rep bring me some of the new stuff.... It is in the pump bottle, 4 oz, AND HAS SPF15 for sun... I like the two for one gig here. The bottle calles it Bug Guard Pluss and has a "gentle breeze" scent... which aint near as sweet. The Marines might not like that as well. :mrgreen: Also has Vitamin E..

Also got me a 4 oz can of the arisal plain ol skin so soft bug guard expedition insect repellent too... good for 8 hours a shot the can says...and it is UNSCENTED..... so... that might be a real disadvantage....in the field... NO SPF on this one....and be careful where you put this can. It looks strikenly like the olive oil cooking spray can...in the daylight...and could get nasty when you fire up that wallas to take care of those late night/early morning munchies when on board in less than perfect lighting conditions... :smilep :smileo

Now I have heard, but not tried, that you can spray your insect screens with this stuff and it also keeps out the smaller critters (no-sees'm) that come in thru the screen....and other little places in our boats already talked about. Again..I have not tried this...but, if you have ever been eat'n up by them little can't see'm to fight'm Ba$tard$.... you'll give it a whirl.

Cost $14 bucks for both containers.

Hummm... what is IR3535 ???? Both contaners have this in them... I wonder if it is just another chemical they have come up with... that does not make you glow in the dark after a couple months of use... :embarrased Ya gotta love being those military guine pigs... I too survived our GI products.. so far.... and it has to be REAL DARK before you can see me glo. :mrgreen: :beer
 
Check out Valkyrie's slbum for a snap-on screen for the forward window. We have a similar screen for the forward hatch.

As for the no-see-iums, spray whatever screens you have with insect repellent. This will turn away those that are small enough to make it through the mesh.

Nick
"Valkyrie"
 
Hi Folks,

Above, I mentioned a way to keep bugs out, and air flowing through your C-Dory.

The second part is to find a good product to kill bugs, every bug, all bugs.

My family came across a product called ORTHO HOME DEFENSE MAX
( www.homedefensemax.com )

This product kills bugs and is safe to use inside your boat.

Yesterday, I was called to our rental house to kill yellow jackets. My wife gave me a bottle of HOME DEFENSE MAX. I sprayed it on the nests and in the space the yellow jackets had gathered. I did not think it would work, so I went to the store to buy Hornet and Wasp Killer. When I returned, all the yellow jackets were dead.

This stuff does not smell like other bug sprays, and they guarantee the it will last all summer. I believe that it might be a good addition to our boats.

Fred
 
OHMYGOD!!



An open endorsement of a dreaded enviornmentally unfriendly insecticide!

Prepare for incoming!

DOD is probably loading the mortars with Green Tofu right now!


Joe.
 
Hi Folks,

When the bugs are around, My personal environment is the only one I care about. I have an allergy to bees and hornets. Kept me out of the service and the Vietnam War.

There are two sides (maybe more) to every issue.

Fred
 
Yep...and a for sure product to have on board when going thru locks at dams....particuarly with our funds having been cut so bad to keep the wasps/hornet nest away from the ballards in the walls... I do not lock thru without at least one can of spray......and...once you get em going good... it is fun to strike a bic lighter in the spray.....and sort-a napom them critters. I have wondered a few times...but not long....just what purpose do wasp and hornet provide???
 
Byrdman-

Not to bug you again, but you asked.....

Actually, most wasps are not social, like those that live in colonies, but live alone individually.

Their primary function in nature is to control populations of other insects.

After mating, the female lays her eggs in the larvae of another insect, and the eggs hatch yielding the wasp larvae that live on (parasatize) the host and eventually kill it. Thus the wasp is a parasitic control on the type of insect it attacks.

Each type of wasp has a specific insect it parasatizes (usually). When an infestation of an insect occurs (especially the displaced type where a foreign insect is brought to this country by merchantile trade), entomologists usually start by looking for the specific wasp that controls that insect in it's home country. Then they breed it and turn it loose on the infestation.

Natural population control w/o chemicals!

Green DoD Dan would be proud!

Joe. (The retired science teacher).
 
We've had this since 2000... http://www.breezebooster.com/ Works a lot better than just opening the hatch and has a net that slides over the whole contraption. As an added bonus, that funneled air feels cooler and I've found myself downright chilly even in the Dry Tortugas in July. Got caught up in another discussion but meant to post here. Best to all....
_________________
 
Back
Top