Boat Equipment for the Inside Passage

Jay,
It is interesting how we all have different experiences. In our exploration of Dundas Bay, in the West Arm, two other boats anchored there during our two nights there. There was one boat in the East Arm, and one going into the West Arm when we left. Our most recent trip was in June/July 2009.

Ford's Terror: we have been in there three times, and every time we saw at least one other boat. One time we were in there for a week, and a charter boat was there 3 days, kayakers were there the rest of the time--not always where we anchored, but we had a high speed RIB and often would explore other arms of places where we anchored. Last time we went into Ford's Terror, there were two other boats and 4 kayaks waiting at the entrance.
We have always seen other boats near Holkham Bay, Tracy Arm, Stephen's Passage and Fredrick's sound.

Agree that the outside of Chichagof and and Baranof are less likely to have other boats--but these are not on the "normal" first time inland passage trip. However we did see several boats along the way in both of these parts of cruises. Part of this may be due to our speed, since much of our Alaska Cruising was in the Cal 46, and 6.5 to 7 knots was our usual speed. Plus we explored areas in the RIB once we anchored the bigger boat. There are so many places to hide!

We always saw vessels in Icy Straights/Cross Sound area--both recreational and commercial fishing. The "usual stops" will have anywhere from 2 to 6 boats during the summer months. There will be both commercial and recreational vessels along the way or usually in radio contact--with the exception of some of the deep Fjords.

The only place I have been where I felt I was really off the Beaten track was a week trip up into the sounds North East of Bramham Island BC (Seymour Inlet, Belize Inlet, Fredrick Sound) We were with a trawler (Puffin DX, Ernie Harding of Nanaimo. Ernie has made more inland passage trips than anyone I have met--I would guess at least 30, and still is at about age 80! ) and the only other civilization we saw was at a logging camp way up one of the arms. The charts for this area had just been released the year prior to our trip. Nakwakto Rapids, at the entrance have Currents which can reach 11.5 knots on the flood and 14.5 knots on the ebb. There is a nice cove out of the current where you can wait for high slack.
Here is a link to an article about this area done in 2008:
http://tinyurl.com/3r8d3pc

When younger I did a lot of back packing into areas without trails, just using a topo map and compass. Those were really remote--and you had to be absolutely independent. No radio, cell phone, or other people.
 
Another important topic related to "what to bring" is "what not to bring". Make very sure you don't have any guns onboard your boat, as they become very expensive if detected by Canadian customs. Thataway suggested bear spray, which I also like to carry in Bear country, but I believe that it, too, is illegal in Canada. Might be worth checking on that, though. Not only do the Canadians have their foibles about guns, the American customs have issues with many foodstuffs, so clean out your icebox between Prince Rupert and Ketchikan. Fresh fruit and meat are of particular concern. It's a great trip - have fun.
 
Thanks for the additional comments. Bob is kindly sending me lots of books he has on the area and I'll order a copy of Richard Cook's book.

My understanding is that Canada allows bear spray if it is specifically labelled as such. Mace/pepper spray intended to provide protection against human attackers is not permitted. And I won't be carrying a gun.

Thanks again,
Sam
 
Here's A LINK on what's "legal" for bringing BEAR SPRAY into Canada. That having been said, it's probably up to whomever inspects you at the border so for sure I'd declare it, what it's for and be prepared to lose it.

If I needed it to protect myself, or my family, from a two legged, non-hairy bear, I'd use it and answer questions later. I believe the correct explanation would be "I was in fear of losing my life and this is all I had for self defense". The LE types would know for sure!

Charlie
 
My preferred "boat equipment" would be about 60ft and we would need to win the lottery, but, I guess we will have to make do with what we have and take note of the excellent suggestions posted here as we start dreaming about doing this next year. Maybe we can afford the barge to carry it all :-)

M
 
the American customs have issues with many foodstuffs, so clean out your icebox between Prince Rupert and Ketchikan. Fresh fruit and meat are of particular concern.

All food (except fish) is imported to SE Alaska, and they have no agriculture. Such being the case, I have never been asked about any food by customs in Ketchikan.

The Canadians do have questions and prohibitions about food going south into Prince Rupert.
 
The never ending gun question and the never ending misinformation. Yes you can bring a gun to Canada. no it can not be a pistol UNLESS you get the right paper work , which takes about 6 month, then you can bring certain pistols including semi auto. Is it worth it to go thru the long process to carry your glock in Canada? that's up to you but I say no. You CAN carry a shot gun or rifle, even semi autos, in Canada on your boat.

Those are the facts. go to the Canadian web site and dig, its not always easy to find the answers, and read and make your own decision based on the facts from the Canadian government web site, not what you heard on the web.

I will carry a 12 ga and bear spray. We have decided to NOT take the dog. It s just stresses Susan out to much to think about what to do about the three times a day doggy run and the possibilities of bears. I told her I would cover her from the boat with the 303 enfield if she got me a new scope :wink: No go. She is just going to leave the dog home with a really big bowl of food :wink:
 
starcrafttom":28e8frm7 said:
The never ending gun question and the never ending misinformation. Yes you can bring a gun to Canada. no it can not be a pistol UNLESS you get the right paper work , which takes about 6 month, then you can bring certain pistols including semi auto. Is it worth it to go thru the long process to carry your glock in Canada? that's up to you but I say no. You CAN carry a shot gun or rifle, even semi autos, in Canada on your boat.

Those are the facts. go to the Canadian web site and dig, its not always easy to find the answers, and read and make your own decision based on the facts from the Canadian government web site, not what you heard on the web.

I will carry a 12 ga and bear spray. We have decided to NOT take the dog. It s just stresses Susan out to much to think about what to do about the three times a day doggy run and the possibilities of bears. I told her I would cover her from the boat with the 303 enfield if she got me a new scope :wink: No go. She is just going to leave the dog home with a really big bowl of food :wink:

When are you going Tom? Russ and Toni plan to go in 2012, we are thinking about tagging along.
 
Two recommendations not seen above.
1. for a kicker recommend a 9.9 Honda for the charging capacity and as it can be pull started, left to run 15 mins or so to give your crank battery enough charge to get the 90 going. Also have it plumbed with a quick release (Honda) and enough line to reach the small tank that comes with the motor. This tank fits in the well between the fixed tanks. If you get bad gas, foul the filter, or run the tanks dry, simply plug the 9.9 in and it will get you anywhere with electrical power for lights and radio. Also a good idea to tie it in to steering with a removable bar.
Note: you will need to mount this on the starboard side due to the tiller arm.
2. recommend a backup bulge pump with a manual switch. Redundancy and twice the water removal are solid benefits.
 
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