auto piolet

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RVP

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Fishing in the great lakes and lake St. Clair is what I want the auto piolet
for.
The feed back is sure appreciated.
by the way there was a post last july about the C-Dory at the resteraunt at 23 mile and North Avenue in Macomb Township. That was me, having a coffe before goining fishing.
 
I kinda like that....Piolet...Sorta French isn't it??? I think if you will look at the archives there is a bunch on autopilots....I have Raymarine units on both my boats...and they work well...but I have cable steering...and wish I had hydraulic steering....there are several units that work super with those systems..... I don't think the mechanical systems work as well....I had to add a ST6000 controller to make my Sportpilot to work well...and that is quite expensive.

Joel
SEA3PO
 
RTP...If you have not already purchased your Auto Piolet you might first want to check on converting your steering to one of those Sea Star systems...they are not terribly expensive....fairly easy to install...make steering easier and when connected to a autopilot seem to do a great job... much nicer than having to work with a mechanical system. Sure wish I had done that.

Joel
SEA3PO
 
Agree with Joel, go hydraulic, but with Bay Star instead of Sea Star. Sea Star is for motors up to 300 hp. Bay Star 150 hp.

We changed to Bay Star hydraulic with Raymarine S1000 auto pilot with remote steering. Is fantastic being able to steer from any where on the boat. It also works very well in poor sea conditions, when normally you are having to work to stay on course. Wished we would have had it last time crossing Dixon entrance going from Misty Fjords to Prince Rupert BC. Might have saved a operation for so called tennis elbow on my right arm.

For us auto pilot and hydraulic steering rank right up with trim tabs for best return for $ spent for accessories added to boat.

Jay
 
I just checked the factory site....and the 2006 22' come standard with hydraulic steering......boy...that is super.. I really do not like my mechanical steering......
Now you have a whole lot of options for that Auto Pio'lot.

Joel
SEA3PO
 
I have a 2004 22' with Teleflex steering. Is the Teleflex considered manual or hydraulic? Any recommendations for an Auto Pilot for this configuration?
 
Teleflex makes cable and the name is also used, "Teleflex-Morse" for electronically controlled hydraulic. It's a big company that makes several types of controls. Seastar is the common hydraulic steering. I hear it's not too hard to install Seastar on a single engine craft.

John
 
Yep...That's what I call manual, among other things.... it should be called resistance and feedback steering... with the sea star or bay star systems the steering becomes so much easier .... I really would like to change over to hydraulic someday...

To answer the question .... Yes there are several manual types available... Raymarine makes a Sportpilot (that I have) I installed that but did not like the lack of controls or display.... all it has is a led that blinks... so I added a ST6000 autopilot controller...now I have excellent control and ease of operation...but that was an additional $600...
On my tug I have a Raymarine S-1 Wheel pilot that works super and comes with the controller....far better unit.. I am sure there are lots of units that will work with manual (cable) steering... Come to the Seattle Boat Show... you will see lots of them...

If I had it over to do again I would go hydraulic steering first... or at least install the S-1 unit.

Joel
SEA3PO
 
Teleflex is the parent company and SeaStar is one of the subsidaries. Teleflex purchased a number of other marine companies thru the years.
 
RVP,
Do not buy the Raymarine wireless system if you want to fish for walleye. It does not operate below 3 mph. It interfaces with the GPS. I think you can purchase a Raymarine system and add the wireless remote, but I don't think the wireless system will help you for walleyes, maybe muskie. There is a small electronics shop (R&D?) in the St. Clair Shores area that is knowledgeable on this topic.
 
RVP:

This is the link to the marine electronic shop in St. Clair Shores, MI.

http://www.rbmarine.com

I have found them to be very knowledgeable, fair, and decent people to do business with. In fact , after shopping around, I purchased all my electronics from them. I have been very pleased with their level of service.

Rollie/C-Batical

(This reply sent to you by a C-Dory owner who used to live near Stoney Creek and was raised on Lake St.Clair)
 
Isn't it a small World. I lived in Shelby Township for over twenty years, 24 mile between Mound and Van Dyke. I must have passed your house countless times on the way to our cottage/boathouse in Fair Haven. I have lived in Pinckney for the past 19 years and now need to trailer my boat to Lake St. Clair and Lake Erie. That's why I now have a C-Dory rather than a Sea Ray and lovin' it.

Best regards,
Rollie/C-Batical
 
randykolchuk":3lc6zvua said:
RVP,
Do not buy the Raymarine wireless system if you want to fish for walleye. It does not operate below 3 mph. It interfaces with the GPS. I think you can purchase a Raymarine system and add the wireless remote, but I don't think the wireless system will help you for walleyes, maybe muskie. There is a small electronics shop (R&D?) in the St. Clair Shores area that is knowledgeable on this topic.
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There was alot of talk regarding the s1000 raymarine system and it's inability to troll below 3nkt. It's my understanding that they have corrected this issue.
 
As I have stated before we have the S1000 Raymarine system---Love it, but it doesn't' control below 3 mph. Loses gps signal. I too had heard Raymarine had corrected this, but it may have been a statement made by one of the Brats here. If someone can't verify this I would just contact Raymarine directly to find out. The system is definitely worth checking on. Works fantastic for us, but we are very low priority fisherman. Would be great for fishing if it does now control down to l.5 mph.

Jay
 
I think both hydraulic steering and an autopiolet (don't you hate it when your finger punches two keys, and then you don't katch it.) Installing these things is easy, it's just plumbing and a few wires. If they're both a new installation, put the autopilot pump in the rear and just tee into the steering lines.

The hard part is bleeding the bloody thing. They show a manual way, but there are a lot of up and downs in the hydraulic lines, and hand bleeding doesn't move the fluid through fast enough. If you do have problems, find someone (dealer, etc.) with a power bleeder. Cured all my problems.

Boris
 
The hydraulic steering from the factory will not handle twin engines.
I don"t know why they do not list that on there web site, I recieved that info right from the factory when ordering my 2006 CD-22.
I upgraded the steering when I purchased the boat, I knew that twins were going on.
 
As for the raymarine working below 3 mph, I use mind for fishing all the time at 1.1 to 2.5 for salmon here in the sound. It seems to work just fine at this speed but you have to reset the response time to the maxium settting. I use 3 for cruising and 9 for fisihing. Its really easy just a few pushs of the button at the control head. once in a while I will lose my heading but you just hit the button and get it back. happens when the wind gust and stops the boat for a second. how slow do you need to get for walleye? I also have my kicker attachedto the main with a rod so I can run the kicker with the auto pilot.
 
I just got a response from Raymarine regarding the s1000 and it's true that they have an update to the software that alows it to function below 3knts. Unfortunately you have to send in the computer for them to update it. It could be that new units already have this update though.
 
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