Another competitor for the C Dory 22.

journey on":1mnphj1s said:
Bob,
I will say when we went through the Trent Severn locks with our C-Dory, Judy was at the front and I was at the rear and some locks required that. Singlehanding must be difficult.

Boris
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I was wondering about that myself as the loop hopefully is in my future. I talked (email talked) to a member here that has done the loop solo on a 25 and he's in his 70's.

His response was "On doing the great loop solo, I did it solo. There are about 60 locks on the journey. It is really easy with the cruiser 25. Don't even need to leave the helm."
 
There are several C Dorys, as well as a number of boats who have done the Loop single handed--including sailboats. I find that I can reach the lock lines/bollards out the window of any of the c Dory's--using a boat hook or other devices..

As for the Rosborough recreational line--they are now owned/built by Eastern as the Rosborough USA line. The Cape Breton was actually introduced in 1995, on the Sisu hull. Relatively few were built, but they did have a rudimentary pilot house, Marc or others may have more information. But the wheelhouse was shorter. The sliding doors were already there, as was a solid aft bulkhead, which may have distinguished them from the lobster boat, "wheel house". There were a number of changes done this last fall to make the modern version.
 
H'm, tying up to a dock or lock bollard or a vertical cable out of a C-Dory window fascinates me. I guess I've been spoiled by Judy, who either brings the boat in or ties it up (we share) and also tells me what I'm doing wrong.

Tell me if the following singlehanded process is wrong:

1. bring the boat up next to the bollard or vertical cable provided in some locks.
2. stop the way to a point where you can do the following.
3. lean out the window, grab a boat hook (tied off outside.) Tying a boat hook outside and having it free to use must be tricky.
4. hook a line over the dock cleat or bollard or grab the cable with the hook.
5. tie off the line amidships or pass a line around the cable. Do 3, 4 and 5 quickly enough so that the wind/current don't blow the boat away.
6. exit the cabin and tie off the aft cleat to something.
7. when leaving untie the boat.

When I make the list, it seems so simple, when I practice it things go awry. I would assume you'd learn quickly if you had to.

Boris
 
journey on":2a58gouv said:
H'm, tying up to a dock or lock bollard or a vertical cable out of a C-Dory window fascinates me. I guess I've been spoiled by Judy, who either brings the boat in or ties it up (we share) and also tells me what I'm doing wrong.

Tell me if the following singlehanded process is wrong:

1. bring the boat up next to the bollard or vertical cable provided in some locks.
2. stop the way to a point where you can do the following.
3. lean out the window, grab a boat hook (tied off outside.) Tying a boat hook outside and having it free to use must be tricky.
4. hook a line over the dock cleat or bollard or grab the cable with the hook.
5. tie off the line amidships or pass a line around the cable. Do 3, 4 and 5 quickly enough so that the wind/current don't blow the boat away.
6. exit the cabin and tie off the aft cleat to something.
7. when leaving untie the boat.

When I make the list, it seems so simple, when I practice it things go awry. I would assume you'd learn quickly if you had to.

Boris
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The way I look at it is if'n you're single and solo and the babe magnets C-Dories are you'd have at least one or two bikini clad super models helping. Problem solved!
 
The cabin is way too disproportionate to the rest of the boat. It looks like someone got a hull with pleasing lines, then clunked a fiberglass box that is too boxy and big onto the hull. Tiny area in the cockpit, so nothing to be gained there over a Dory 22. I would like to see the 22 with the armstrong bracket for the OB and open up the cockpit space though.

The sliding side doors serve no great function in my opinion. I'm pretty sure that I'd be among the first to climb out the door and go headfirst into the water. The sliding glass windows on the Dory 22 allow access for mid boat fenders and lines by simply reaching out of the window.

There is much that C-Dory can do to improve the 22 cruiser without great cost and easily out compete these others looking at the pocket cruiser market.

If someone can come out with a new 22 design that sells for 55 grand with engine and trailer, there is a latent market out there that would overwhelm their ability to produce. A 22 foot boat with cabin for close to 100 grand really shuts the door on the market. I know, I know, they are custom built largely and labor is big and profits are small.

I am again looking for a used C-Dory 22 after kicking myself many times for having sold "STILL CRAZY." Both the reference boat and a new Dory 22 are wayyyyyy out of reach for a new boat for me. Used is my shopping place.
 
potter water":2vamfu5l said:
... The sliding glass windows on the Dory 22 allow access for mid boat fenders and lines by simply reaching out of the window. ...
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Wouldn't hurt if they made the side windows a bit bigger on the C-Dory.
 
Having owned the Rf246, I will attest that the side sliding doors are a very handy feature. Ventilation, managing the mid ship cleat line, and access on to the side deck if needed. And mine never leaked water. The side deck and the cabin top rail height made side access very nice. And the RF246, because of the keel was VERY stable at rest. Did not heel over at rest. All boats are compromises .
 
Bill , we will have the boat at Orange Beach as well as Panama City the first weekend of March . Then Sarasota in April. But best way to see is at the dealership where you can compare more Pilothouse boats than anywhere else I know of in one place at one time.

A few important details ;
For all you "disproportionate cabin" folks, the cockpit is larger than the C Dory 22, as is the vee berth.
For the "Dinette" folks , we will have a Lagun Table that will move from the cabin to the cockpit [on this mount] to create a flexible dining option , like the 246 Halifax model. That's a big selling point .
Ill report handling characteristics when we power her .
She arrived yesterday and we will be giving her the "Wefings Touch" in the next few weeks .

This is a new cabin / roof configuration and this is the very first one . It built on a proven hull design that has a very good "East Coast" pedigree. Its also 4 inces wider than a 22 C Dory and could be configured for twins . We can do a full armstrong with kicker bracket and single , or twins . I would think twin 70 Yamahas would be a good setup. If asked ,I would recommend a single for cost, simplicity and performace . A dual pupose kicker/dinghy motor addition just makes sense .
Let the discussions continue !


Marc
 
potter water":1v62xpy5 said:
There is much that C-Dory can do to improve the 22 cruiser without great cost and easily out compete these others looking at the pocket cruiser market.
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There already is such a boat, it is called the 23. Ben Toland designed the 23 to address all the complaints that people had about the 22.
 
PaulNBriannaLynn":1ql8phc7 said:
. Its UGLY! .
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Close your ears my dear girl.

Pay no attention to the mean boys in the school yard.

You are beautifull and talented.

You will go far in your life full of adventures.

Hold your bow high and be proud.

Let the flair of your bow deflect the naysayers spray.

Let your scuppers expel all bad waters.

The sun will shine on you my girl because the master has built you robust AND beautiful to weather the storm.

Love Rob
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Was just speaking with the lady that purchased this boat last year. They loved it but have decided it is more boat than they need. May be offering it for sale. Six hours on the clock! Still in Florida. She said they paid $115K - not sure yet what they will be asking. Won't likely last long. I have 6 different search sites that I check for Rosborough's several times a week and they have been selling like hot cakes last 2 - 3 months. Hard to find a used one anywhere and new builds are backed up.

Rob
 
Rob, I loved your little sonnet, but I still think it is far from pretty, and for me, again, that aft freeboard is WAY TOO LOW. Still.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

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Smaller boats with higher pilot houses seem great for standup room below,
big guys/gals, x-tra room, x-tra storage, etc.

Realize a taller pilothouse is like having a sail on your powerboat. Downwind it
could be a blessing. A headwind, not so much. A beam wind at sea, if moderate,
can be handled. A strong beam wind docking can be a big negative.

Aye.
Grandpa, an old Navy man, used to say, "There is no perfect boat."
 
I would definitely want a test ride in at least moderate beam seas. As Foggy mentioned, the house is pretty tall relative to the hull. That hull is a modified form of the old SISU hull, which was known for seaworthiness but not for stability. It was not originally designed for such a large pilothouse. You'd be opening windows for air throughput when docking in a cross wind at the very least.
 
BillE":2wb1nqfx said:
Robert, check your link. Lots and lots of photos, no boat.
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Bill, that's strange it works when I clic it. Try this link - https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10 ... 9418914094

It is the link to her first pic - might allow you to right clic to see the rest. Are you on facebook? If so search "Rosborough owners, wanna be's and used to be's". It is one of the most recent topics on the site. You can also search "Cape Breton" or the owners name Betsy Reiser on that site.

If that doesn't work let me know and I will try something else.
 
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