So for fathers day my family got me a new anchor for the boat. she got a delta fast set it is the one size up from what was recommended for a 22' boat. Is this a good anchor for overnighting on? we have just been using the Danforth type. we do all of our anchoring in the SJI and straits of juan de fuca. looking at it I am not sure how well it will do on a swing, but the front looks to flare a little bit and may grab and do fine. anyone have experience with this anchor plus or minus?
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Everyone has their opinions, but I think it's safe to say that's a "safe" style of anchor to overnight on (good anchoring dependent of course). The reason the Danforth type may not be is that if the wind/tide/etc. change and you swing to pull in the opposite (or nearly opposite) direction, it may not re-set due to various factors. Well, that could happen with any anchor but some types are more prone to it than others.
The Delta was our favorite anchor with our 25. The danforth was a back-up, in case the situation called for it. There were a few times we needed two anchors, but in 8 years, we didn't run into a situation where the Delta didn't hold. From the PNW to the Florida Keys.
Yep, it's a fine anchor.
Yep, it's a fine anchor.
Good anchor choice, and I like that you are overdoing it. I use that anchor too. I went oversize on my anchor with way more chain than I need. The combo makes my windlass struggle, coupled with the short drop from the windlass to my locker.
It makes a great setup and holds in anything, turns at the tide and resets great, but if I were to buy again I'd get the smaller anchor and keep my extra chain. I think that makes more of a difference than the anchor, and the reduced weight would make the windlass happy.
It makes a great setup and holds in anything, turns at the tide and resets great, but if I were to buy again I'd get the smaller anchor and keep my extra chain. I think that makes more of a difference than the anchor, and the reduced weight would make the windlass happy.
Lollygaggin
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That anchor should be just right for your purposes in good bottom. Remember to attach at least one foot of chain per foot of boat length and then enough nylon line to make at least a 7 to 1 scope in whatever waters you will anchor in at the highest tide level. That is measured to your bow roller. We use a 1 size bigger than recommended Delta, 30 ft of 1/4" chain, and 250 ft of double braid nylon rode. May want to keep the other anchor for a back up and rig it with 22 ft of chain and a couple or three hundred ft of 3 strand twisted 3/8" nylon rode.
Have fun,
Chris
Have fun,
Chris
The 14# Delta would be "normal" for your boat, and the 22# one size over. Never go wrong with that. But I suggest for "4th of July" she buys you a windlass. We find that the 8 Plait line (Brait) is the best for the C Dory 22. It stores in about half the room of the 3 strand, and is easy to handle. We have plenty of room for 50 feet of chain, and 300 feet of 8 plait rode.
Ditto on the 8 plait line recommendation from Dr. Bob, especially if you are anchoring for halibut. you won't need to use much scope on your anchor, especially with that 22# big boy, but you'll be in deep water. I'll drop 200' of rode out in 150' of water and hold just fine. I wouldn't go to sleep for the night, but that tackle is a great choice for ground fish. I had about 200' of 3 strand including about 15' of chain. It barely fit into my locker.
I have 600' of rode now, and that includes my loooong chain. It all fits into my anchor locker, but my rode greed is really the root cause of my windlass not doing all that well pulling my anchor. But the time the chain is halfway up it will easily pile up under my windlass and jam it. Even if I'm anchoring in 100' and put out about 130' I have to push the rode around the locker as it comes in. I should really shorten it, but just can't bring myself to cut that nice long 8 plait rode.
I have 600' of rode now, and that includes my loooong chain. It all fits into my anchor locker, but my rode greed is really the root cause of my windlass not doing all that well pulling my anchor. But the time the chain is halfway up it will easily pile up under my windlass and jam it. Even if I'm anchoring in 100' and put out about 130' I have to push the rode around the locker as it comes in. I should really shorten it, but just can't bring myself to cut that nice long 8 plait rode.
colbysmith
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Lurking in this thread, and curious about the 8 plait anchor line. What size line is that? I see different sizes when I google it. (It also looks to be rather expensive...) Thanks. Colby
Colby we use the 1/2" 8 plait. You might get away with the 3/8, but it is not going to work with any windlass, and it is difficult to "hand"...
It is "expensive" if you compare with some of the cheaper 3 strands, but for the good 3 strands (New England, Yale, Sampson), it is not that much more expensive. You get what you pay for...
It is "expensive" if you compare with some of the cheaper 3 strands, but for the good 3 strands (New England, Yale, Sampson), it is not that much more expensive. You get what you pay for...
The C-Dory is the first time I've used the 8-plait (Yale Brait in this case). I went with 1/2". Reason I chose it over good-old three strand is because it takes up about half the space in the locker (over same size three-strand), and the 22's locker is not exactly cavernous.
No complaints at all, although I had to learn a new splice (vs. three-strand). I would buy it again.
I now use the original three-strand anchor line for my secondary anchor, all of which I keep in a duffel bag for easy carting to wherever I want to use it (bow, stern, dinghy, etc.)
No complaints at all, although I had to learn a new splice (vs. three-strand). I would buy it again.
I now use the original three-strand anchor line for my secondary anchor, all of which I keep in a duffel bag for easy carting to wherever I want to use it (bow, stern, dinghy, etc.)
New anchor gear was the first thing we upgraded. My boat came with a danforth, and the aforementioned 3 strand rode and it all sat in a milk crate on the bow that I hand lined in. I can't tell you how often I see this done and it is just the poorest planning ever. Even with a milk crate secured, one good wave over the bow, a thing these boats can take quite well, will almost certainly put you into a catastrophic situation.
We got a windlass largely because we didn't feel safe with the rode on the bow, and after pulling some gear in some waves got a little wet and decided it wasn't great to be up there doing that all the time.
When we added the windlass and kept the same rode I found a few things that Ididn't like:
1. the rode had a "memory" and would have these little loops and kinks that caused it to fall off the gypsy.
2. The gypsy didn't grab the rode very well
3. The relatively short 200' rode took up my whole anchor locker, and I often was unable to hit the bottom when I was trying to fish in slightly deeper water.
The 8 plait flakes well into the locker, can have way more rode in there, and holds far better in the gypsy (although having my rode piled so high in my anchor locker does cause the rode to slip in the gypsy a bit more than I'd like.
When we were first considering the purchase of a new rode we hesitated on the price numerous times, but some online shopping and diligence we found some high quality gear at a good price that wasn't too far off of the better 3 strand rode in terms of price. Once shipping was factored in, the price was almost a wash, because the same amount of 3 strand shipped in a much larger box.
This ended up being a major upgrade, and one we take advantage of frequently. On those occasional days when our secluded anchorages might have another boat in it (we tend to have things to ourselves up here and like it that way!) we've been known to anchor up for a stay in a hundred feet of water or more. Plus, I can fish for halibut anywhere, I don't have to drift if it's over 130' deep, I can anchor up. Quite simply, this gear let's me do anything I want to, whereas previously I was quite limited in where I could anchor
Long answer, but there you go.
We got a windlass largely because we didn't feel safe with the rode on the bow, and after pulling some gear in some waves got a little wet and decided it wasn't great to be up there doing that all the time.
When we added the windlass and kept the same rode I found a few things that Ididn't like:
1. the rode had a "memory" and would have these little loops and kinks that caused it to fall off the gypsy.
2. The gypsy didn't grab the rode very well
3. The relatively short 200' rode took up my whole anchor locker, and I often was unable to hit the bottom when I was trying to fish in slightly deeper water.
The 8 plait flakes well into the locker, can have way more rode in there, and holds far better in the gypsy (although having my rode piled so high in my anchor locker does cause the rode to slip in the gypsy a bit more than I'd like.
When we were first considering the purchase of a new rode we hesitated on the price numerous times, but some online shopping and diligence we found some high quality gear at a good price that wasn't too far off of the better 3 strand rode in terms of price. Once shipping was factored in, the price was almost a wash, because the same amount of 3 strand shipped in a much larger box.
This ended up being a major upgrade, and one we take advantage of frequently. On those occasional days when our secluded anchorages might have another boat in it (we tend to have things to ourselves up here and like it that way!) we've been known to anchor up for a stay in a hundred feet of water or more. Plus, I can fish for halibut anywhere, I don't have to drift if it's over 130' deep, I can anchor up. Quite simply, this gear let's me do anything I want to, whereas previously I was quite limited in where I could anchor
Long answer, but there you go.
gulfcoast john
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Colby,
I've been happy with 8 plait/chain rodes from Defender. The chain is genuine galvanized MADE IN USA ACCO/Peerless. They won't say who sources the line, tho it feels very high quality.
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?pat ... id=1849841
Lewmar rodes tend to cost twice as much, and though I've had a few, I don't think it was worth it. Eventually, we get some nasty thunderstorm or chafe on some bottom debris or age that causes a weak spot and replace it. That can happen to the most expensive line as well as the cheapest. We seldom deploy more than 120 ft of Hi Test chain. But then, we like to anchor in thigh deep 82 degree gin clear water 15 feet from a snow white soft sand beach.
If anyone has a better quality to price compromise they recommend, sing out.
Happy Boating!
John
I've been happy with 8 plait/chain rodes from Defender. The chain is genuine galvanized MADE IN USA ACCO/Peerless. They won't say who sources the line, tho it feels very high quality.
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?pat ... id=1849841
Lewmar rodes tend to cost twice as much, and though I've had a few, I don't think it was worth it. Eventually, we get some nasty thunderstorm or chafe on some bottom debris or age that causes a weak spot and replace it. That can happen to the most expensive line as well as the cheapest. We seldom deploy more than 120 ft of Hi Test chain. But then, we like to anchor in thigh deep 82 degree gin clear water 15 feet from a snow white soft sand beach.
If anyone has a better quality to price compromise they recommend, sing out.
Happy Boating!
John
I got mine from seco south, and found their listings on ebay to be easier to navigate than their website, but the same info. Their quick ship rodes are cheaper than defender, but as far as I can tell, the same line. They use acco or g4 high test chain, and their splices, swivels, etc are all good quality and hold up well to repeated and frequent use. I haven't had any abrasion issues with mine and use it alot in some pretty diverse bottom types.
My 600' rode was around $400. I think it's a bit more now.
My 600' rode was around $400. I think it's a bit more now.