22 Ft. C-Dory Crusier

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pathfinder101

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Hi All,

I'm thinking about upgrading to a 22 Ft. Crusier....Main useage will be fishing the San Francisco Bay area, Santa Cruz, Halfmoom Bay for Salmon and Halibut fishing...Sometimes going out of Golden Gate. Also, going out for Tuna fishing about 30 - 50 miles out...My question is that would this boat be sea worthy to do all this or should I think about a deep V boat. Any help would be well appreciated.....New to the site....

Thanks,
Jeff
 
Hi, I have not fished your area but I think that the 22 cruizer would be great for that use. but if you are mostly going to fish and not over night on your boat I would think about one of the 22 anglers. one just popped up for sale for under 20 grand. that would make a great day fishing boat for your area. give a look.
 
There's a 22 Cruiser in Pacheco that you might consider contacting (see the ad in the For Sale By Owner forum). He's selling because he ended up buying a friend's Osprey for heading offshore for fishing. His CD22 is only nominally a cruiser - there is no dinette, galley, etc - just seating and large lockers. I was considering this boat before buying the one I did - he has EFI Suzukis and it appears to be in good condition. It's interesting to note that he went from a CD22 to an Osprey, and I went from an Osprey to a CD22!

FWIW, I thought that there has been no salmon season in CA for a couple of years, and lots of near shore fishing areas are becoming "protected", so folks are heading further offshore (which usually equates to a deep-V).

Anyway, my point is there is (or was, haven't spoken to him in a few weeks) a clean-looking CD22 set up for fishing in your area.
 
Jeff,

I have fished in the Bodega area for over 20 years, starting out with a Whaler Montauk, then a second newer one, then to the CD 22 two years ago. I fish only salt and had some of the same trepidations you have deciding whether the CD 22 would be the right rig for salmon, halibut, tuna and crab. After fishing hard for 2 years in it, I can tell you that I am satisfied with most of the results. As you will find out researching this site, the CD22 is not the consumate platform for offshore fishing, but most of my days offshore or near shore are carefully planned with the weather and fishing conditions. Adding permatrims to the twin 50's and learning to trim the boat, slow down in certain conditions have allowed me to appreciate the boat for its certain attributes (pilothouse, mileage and fishability). I have had some epic tuna runs in the last 2 years and great days out for halibut and salmon. You probably already know what kind of year we have been enjoying with dungeness. Lastly, if you're getting your butt kicked by weather in CD, you will probably get it as well in a comparable size platform whether its an Osprey, Whaler or Grady, the only dif is they will be back to port sooner.

With fuel prices on the rise again, this boat can really give you more time on the water. My 2C FWIW.

Vern
 
The boat will be seaworthy enough--but you may have to slow way down going into the chop. The potatoe patch can be very rough, and I have seen 50 footers turn back. There are some tricks on getting in and out of the Golden Gate area. Even SF bay can be very choppy, with the wind against current. There are few real deep V pilot house boats; a pilot house gives a lot of advantages!
 
Jeff, I own a 25 but I don't think the 22 gives away much if any from a "seaworthy" perspective. Have spent a fair amount of time off the Oregon coast doing the salmon, tuna, halibut thing and there are a number of 22 footers that run out of Newport. Just can't recall a time when I passed one so it appears that they run about the same speed. The C-dory shines in the warm and dry department. Light weight, low center of gravity, simple bilgeless interior and proven hull design make for a boat that is very seaworthy. They are easy to maintain and have few "oh damm" moments when used.
The light is not so bright in the deck space and speed department. My average run West is in the 14-17 mph range. This is the into the face of waves leg and offers lots of steep, choppy, washing machine opportunities. There are days when I swear that I am the slowest moving boat on the ocean. 35 miles to the Halibut grounds 50 to 70 miles for tuna makes for long days but I am dry, safe and that little deck has seen a lot of fish over the years. The run home is much better sort of 17 plus mph on the same average day.

Very long winded way to say that if you don't mind slowing down when conditions warrant a 22 C-Dory will do whatever you need it to do plus you and the crew get to stay out of the weather.
If fishing is the main interest you might want to look at a 22 angler

stevej
 
I would sure stay away from one of those early model boats...they had a flat bottom and really bounced...gave a terrible ride... I don't know what year they decided to get away from that bottom...especially in that water.

Joel
SEA3PO
 
Hi All,

Thanks...I really appreciate your input...I currently own a 19 ft. Arima SR
(SkipTower), I was thinking about upgrading into the 22 ft. CD Cruiser...Mainly to fish only...It just feels good to have a pilothouse boat....
I was also wondering if there is a main difference comparing in overall size (except for the length of course... ) Are the gunnels, hull of the boat and height of the boat a lot higher between the two?

Main purpose of upgrading to 22 ft. CD is to go where my Arima 19 ft. cannot go... As for the Arima's...There is a big difference between a 19 ft SR and a 22 ft Sea Legend. A whole different boat.... Is that the case with the 22 ft.
CD ? I looked into both websites and it seems like there aren't that much difference in terms of overall size. (Except for length)

Any help would be well appreciated....


Thanks,
Jeff
 
You West Coasters are heavy weather sailors. As a long-time sailboat racer, I've always admired the yachtsmen from the bay of San Francisco. A 20-knot blow for those guys is a calm breeze. Just crossing the mouth of the Potomac in 25-knot winds with an incoming tide against the river current in my C-Dory 22 was more than enough for me. If your wives go on the water with you you're also far more persuasive than I am. Mine insists the boat will capsize on Lake Winnebago. But if pathfinder101 is going under the Golden Gate in an Arima 19, you certainly won't have problems with a C-Dory Cruiser. But I'd prefer going east, up the river.
 
Having owned both the 22 and the 25, I found that the 25 would do significantly better in heavy weather. The reason we upgraded was the room in the forward bunk, and access to the bunk. The head is also a nice touch when you spend a few weeks aboard. For day trips, there is not a lot of difference between the 22 and 25. The 25 is much heavier, slightly more beam, and the height/gunwale etc are all about the same. In our Delta Cruise, going across the SF bay to Berkley the 22's kept up with the 25's in a typical mid day chop. A bit of spray, but not uncomforatable.
 
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