2008 22 Cruiser Anchor Type

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I think I want a 11 or 16 lb Claw.

I will be pulling it up by hand. I have 20-25 feet of chain and 250 rope.

1. Will either of these fit on the factory bow roller/holder?
2. Any of you pull up the 16 by hand on a regular basis and how is it?

(I want to anchor overnight)

Am leaning toward the 16, and would like to here from some of you who have real world experience. I have read the other anchor posts..

Thanks for the replies...
 
I have used a Lewmar "Bruce" claw with moderate success but switched to a Delta plow type after difficulty getting the Bruce to set in bottoms heavy with Kelp. Both were in the weight range you suggest and both were pulled by hand. Both are popular here in the PNW/BC region. We anchor out frequently and I think you would be comfortable with either style. Both deployed off of the roller (windline) mounted by EQ Harbor Services. I am a believer in using a bigger anchor than is the "Norm" so would argue for the 16#.
 
I am not a fan of the Claw or Bruce type of anchor--although it seems popular in your area. We used a CQR for 4 years of crusing 6 months out of the year in our Cal 46 in the PNW. I prefer the Delta quick set in 14 lb or Manson Supreme in 15 lbs.
 
I went from the Bruce claw to the Delta 14 fast set and it suits my needs well in the bay area. Even does a pretty good job of sticking on the steep barron hardpan rims of many of our reservoirs where the claw dragged badly. Both types fit well on the hinged Lewmar self launching bow roller which I think is a must have, especially if you ever might add a windlass.

I was out on Sat. and anchored several times. Boy, was my right index finger tired from toggling that switch!

Chris
 
I can't speak to Delta but I've been using an 11# Bruce for nearly twenty years and haven't dragged yet. Overnighted in some storms that threw me out of my bunk onto the floor. Never anchored in thick kelp. Fairly thick eel-grass though. I wouldn't want to manually pull one much bigger.
250' 3/8" and 20' 1/4" chain.

I don't care for Danforth. That's what I had before the Bruce and it repeatedly fouled on rocks and, once, a beer can.
 
A Fishin C,

Up where you live the bottoms are mud with a few rocks. I've found that a Bruce/claw type anchor works well. Plows, such as a Delta or CQR tend to plough through the mud.

If your going to anchor in sand or seaweed, a plough or Danforth is the way to go.

The 16# is probably overkill, but a good anchor for your area.

Boris
 
I used a genuine Bruce 16lb with 30ft of 1/4 chain and 250 ft of line on my 1991 22 Cruiser in the PNW, Alaska, and So Cal for 15 years. Always pulled by hand.

I did have to move the factory roller forward a couple of inches to allow the tip of the anchor to clear the hull.

I always slept at night, never dragged. I would not go lighter than 16lbs on a Bruce.
 
Another vote for the Delta anchor. I've used the Bruce claw and if there is any vegetation on the bottom the Bruce wouldn't set. I used the 14 lb on my 22 and have the 22 lb on my 25.
 
Tom,
I have anchored many hundreds of nights on a CQR (probably over a thousand)--for a 46 foot boat I had a 60#--35 is NOT for a 55 to 60 foot boat. For a 60 foot boat we had a 70# CQR. I used a 35 on 29 to 35 foot boats.

But, the Delta is a better anchor. It sets better, and faster, plus holds better.

If you buy a CQR--be sure that it is a genuine CQR (same for Danforth, Delta etc) often the knock offs are just not as good, and the worst case they are welded shank, instead of the drop forged shank of the CQR. Lots of Chinese copies around. CQR are not as good in mud as Fortress, or Creative Marine's SuperMax, or even Danforth. I used to use only Danforth HT in my racing sailboats. Never had a problem. But setting an anchor is a bit of an art.
 
I stand corrected. the 35# is for a 26-45 ft boat


Description WM Model# MFG Part# Availability Price USD QTY
25lb. CQR Anchor, Boats 16'–32', 32-1/2"L x 11-1/8"W x 13-3/4"H 106740 0056505 In Stock, Limited Availability $576.00
35lb. CQR Anchor, Boats 26'–45', 38-5/8"L x 13"W x 15"H 106757 0056506 In Stock $679.00
45lb. CQR Anchor, Boats 32'–58', 40-5/8"L x 14"W x 17"H 106765 0056507 In Stock $796.00
60lb. CQR Anchor, Boats 45'–65', 44"L x 15-3/8"W x 16"H 176784 0056508 In Stock $1,057.00
 
I think I like the delta 14 (it seems to do everything well according to WM)with 2nd choice 16 claw.

I guess the only way to know if it goes on the factory bow roller is to buy and try then return if it doesn't fit...
 
bob , thanks for the info. I think I will go back to a Bruce. I had bad luckwith mine the first year and dragged several times. That was before I added 25 ft of chain. since then it has never slipped at all and set on the first try.
 
I changed over to a 14lb Delta a couple of years ago and I really like it. Although we haven't anchored much, I have a lot of confidence in this particular anchor.

I used the factory bow roller (non-pivoting) and the anchor does fit, although I did have to retrofit the horseshoe shaped collar that helps guide the anchor. The original was too tight on the Delta anchor so after some searching, I found a stainless steel sailboat part called a Boom Bail that did the trick. However, the anchor tip does get very close to the bow and does swing into it from time to time while pulling the anchor up.

If I were willing to remove the current bow roller, I would definitely install the pivoting bow roller that particular anchor is designed for. I just didn't want to drill holes in the top deck so I didn't even explore whether the holes matched up.
 
Regarding the pivoting roller, it scares the life out of me every time with a windlass.

First, the tip of my Delta 14 is very close, 2.4 inches on mine, from the fiberglass at full up. (seemingly it would be much closer at the start of the pivot, though the tip of a 22 angles back quickly). Despite my getting to know pretty well when the anchor is almost up (paint on chain helps) there is always a horrendous crunch as it jolts onto the roller. Every time I retrieve the boat after an anchoring session I look at the hull up front expecting to see some type of anchor damage. So far, knock on fiberglass, so good. Not a nick I can find, in maybe 75 cycles. But it does take some time to fully trust the operation.

The other nice thing about the pair is that the flared ends of the pivoting roller lock into the flair of the anchor flukes when tight such that there is no rattling or twisting play even in a bouncy environment. Your results could vary. There are a couple photos showing the tolerances in the "New anchor setup" sub-album.
 
Chris-

The "WHAM" lam of the pivoting anchor roller is probably very much proportional to the weight of the anchor retrieved when it comes home to rest!

I love mine, and think it's just as important an ingredient to a windlass system as the windlass itself.

Truly each windlass system is unique with the anchor type and size, anchor roller, windlass, and rode. General advice and guidelines can be given, but each one requires its own fine tuning and owner's understanding during installation and subsequent use.

That pivoting roller is available in identical forms (except for the roller color) from both Windline and Lewmar (formerly Simpson-Lawrence). I believe I've also seen copies of it from others. It's a design masterpiece that works with as many anchors as possible, IMHO.

My Fortress FX-16 is dimensionally bigger than most anchors used on boats the size of C-Dorys, but lighter at 11 pounds, so doesn't quite have as much of a massive impact when snapping home, but still does so with authority and is so snug in the mount, that I never use any anchor retainer, keeper, or anything else to retain it on the water or on the road.

Be glad you spent the few extra bucks to install the best. A little noise is a small price to pay for something that really works!

Joe. :teeth :thup

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After looking on line for anchor and reading way to much on the subject i decided to go back to another delta for the 27fter. This time I will get a 22lb delta.

the difference in price on line and in the stores is crazy. I found the same anchor for 165 all the way up to 285 dollars. I ended up buying one at the marine store in everett for $165. Now all I need is chain, rode, windlass, roller, money.....

any one got 40 ft of cahin they want to unload?? How about 400ft of rode???
 
Good choice, Tom. You may want to pick up a Guardian for a stern anchor. Look around and sometimes you can pick up a good deal. The Guardian is little different than the Fortress, except for the "mud" position (which it can be fitted for, with a little drill press work. Also a big Fortress or Guardian makes a great storm anchor--breaks down easily, stows in small space and is light. I use the 22 Delta on the Tom Cat, and a couple of 7 lb guardians as stern anchors--a FX 37 I got a bargin on for a storm anchor.
 
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