06/02 - 06/04 - Lankford Bay Marina, Eastern Shore

Hey Capt Vic, I'll mail you a hard copy when time gets close. Do you have Microsoft Excel on your computer? If not, that's probably why you can't download it, it's an Excel Spreadsheet. I've got your info and will load it.

Art, refresh my memory, how could we track boats by MMSI Nos? I guess with some sort of PLRS system like the military uses or using the Ham Radio APRS we could....?? :disgust

I'd have to go back and figure out what mine is. I wrote it in the manual but where the heck is that now? Can you get it off one of the websites? Or will the radio display it?

Charlie
 
Here is some info on MMSI for those of you who are interested or are not aware of it. After reading this am I correct in assuming that once communciation is established between boats it no longer is a "private" connection?

Frequently Asked Questions About DSC Radios

1. What does MMSI stand for?

Maritime Mobile Service Identity
2. What is MMSI?

A unique 9 digit number that is assigned to a DSC radio station

3. What does DSC stand for?

Digital Selective Calling

4. What is DSC?

A new radio technology allowing enhanced distress radio messages to be sent digitally.

5. Is my radio capable of sending a DSC message?

Maybe. Radios with DSC capability have been on the U.S. market for several years. Since 1999, the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) began requiring new fixed mount models introduced in the U.S. to be equipped with the DSC feature. Minimally, DSC radios are equipped with single-button emergency transmission capability.

6. What does MMSI do?

It primarily registers the boat information in the U.S. Coast Guard's national distress database for use in emergency situations.

7. What are some advantages of a DSC equipped radio?

DSC radios have a one-button emergency transmit button that sends the vessel's unique MMSI number. In addition, if the DSC equipped radio is linked to a GPS or Loran unit, the distress call will include the vessel's position. Should the skipper become incapacitated, the radio will continue sending the mayday. In addition, a DSC equipped vessel with an MMSI number can make a "private" hailing call to another DSC-equipped vessel. Only the vessel being called will receive the hail.

8. Does the U.S. Coast Guard monitor DSC maydays?

Not yet and it may not until 2005 or 2006. However, commercial ships are required to monitor the DSC-reserved Channel 70 for distress calls and have relayed maydays to the Coast Guard.

9. Is there a fee to receive an MMSI number?

BoatU.S., in cooperation with the FCC and the USCG, has agreed to staff and budget this service. BoatU.S. is offering this registration service free of charge to all recreational boaters.

10. How can I register to get a free MMSI number?

Several ways: Go to www.boatus.com and click on the "MMSI" button to 1) register immediately on-line. 2) Down load and print a registration form. Fax or mail the completed form to the BoatU.S. MMSI program at (703) 461-2840 or mail to MMSI Program 880 S. Pickett St. Alexandria, VA 22304 3) Call (800) 563-1536 to ask questions or to request a registration form.

11. Why has BoatU.S. elected to absorb the cost of MMSI registration?

MMSI and DSC have the potential to save many lives as the Coast Guard installs their nationwide communications upgrade by 2005. BoatU.S. wants to insure that recreational boaters have reasonable access the system. BoatU.S. has advocated safe boating from its founding in 1966.

12. Is an FCC VHF license required?

No, recreational boats under 65' operating in U.S. waters no longer require a VHF license.

13. Does the Coast Guard plan to cease monitoring Channel 16 once GMDSS is operational in the U.S. after 2005-6?

No. The Coast Guard has no plans to stop monitoring Channel 16 at any time in the foreseeable future.

14. Is there a channel reserved for DSC?

Yes, channel 70 is to be used exclusively for DSC.

15. As a recreational boater, do I have to maintain a watch on Channel 70?

No.

16. What is "private calling" as related to DSC?

It is in effect "private hailing" of another vessel whose MMSI number is known to you. Once contact is established between the vessels, they are automatically switched to the preselected "working channel", and the "privacy" ends at that point, meaning that the transmission (conversation) can be heard by any other vessel monitoring that channel.

17. I thought MMSI numbers were supposed to begin with a "366". I received mine and it has a different prefix.

The first digit or two identifies one of the four kinds of Maritime Mobile Service Identities:

Ship station identities
Group ship station identities
Coast station identities
Group coast station identities
For a complete breakdown and explanation of the digits visit the following USCG web site: http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/gmdss/mmsi.htm

18. I have two boats, in different states and each has a DSC capable VHF radio. Can I get two MMSI numbers?

Yes, in fact YOU MUST if you wish the system to work. In a distress situation, it is vital to identify the particular vessel, home port, etc.

19. I bought a boat with a Ship's Station License and MMSI. Can I continue to use the call sign and MMSI that came with it?

No, that information applies to someone else. You must reregister.

20. I have an FCC license that is still valid. I am buying a new DSC capable VHF radio. Do I have to transfer the license or something to cover the new radio?

If you already have a valid FCC license, you should contact the FCC to get an MMSI. The BoatU.S. registry is intended for those not licensed or required to be FCC licensed.

21. I am a Canadian boater with a DSC radio. Can I register at BoatU.S.?

No. The MMSI number contains a country code and the BoatU.S. numbers are to be used for U.S. vessels.


Thought this might help

Soapy Joe
22' Cruiser
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Soapy Joe,

Nice job on the explanation, very thorough.

As to application, I would think that a prearranged automatic preselected communication channel, like Ch#68 or #69, would be appropriate; as noted in your explanation #16. This setup would free up the use of Ch #13, #16 or#09 for any other hailing. These channels could and should still be monitored, via the scan function most radios have. With some 25+ vessels converging on one spot, this DSC function could also report a vessel's position on the receiving radio's LCD display when queried.

This would be a good exercise to learn more of how to apply this new technology as well as add an aide to our convoy's tracking when we cruise together. The more I study my ICOM Manual, the more the possibilities jump out. I am a work in progress on these functions, though I have already programmed my radio with Ch#69 as a response channel.

We must keep in mind this is a ship to ship comm.. As such, the range would probably only be in the range of about 6-9 NMs on open water for our C-Dory22 & 25s, due to the antenna relative heights.

Food for thought....
 
Thanks Sea Angel,

You guy's really appear to be to be the experts with this stuff. I will let all the decisions regarding it's application and use at our gathering up to you all & I will follow suit. As I stated in my first post on this thread this is my first gathering with you all and "I will do as the romans do!" I am simply in awl at the wealth of information this site is, with not just C-Dory's but boating in general.

I am really excited about meeting all of you. I have to drive down to Cutter in the next week or so to pick up my new camper canvas I ordered from King Marine. I'm sure that trip will not only get the C-dory juice's flowing for this season, but greatly increase my anticipation for the Lankford gathering. I appears as though I will get to meet a very large contigent of C-Dory lovers. Can't wait!!!

Joe Reighard
Soapy Joe
22' Cruiser
 
I noticed your post before cause you're from pa. where is montoursville? is it?
there aren't many brats from pa, i know there's one in red lion.
we are southern lanc. co. 45 min ride to our marina!!!
see you in june :)
 
Hey Cpt. vic. I do not have my CD yet (another week or two) but I am located in PA about 100 miles east of Pittsburgh. Or 130 miles west of Harrisburg. Sort of half way between Altoona & Bedford. You know, the middle of nowhere! Little town called Roaring Spring. :mrgreen:
 
Cpt.Vic & The Skipper;

Montoursville PA is located just about dead center of PA. Unfortunaly Montoursville is well known due to the tragidy with Flight 800 several years ago. We lost 21 of our beloved high schoolers on the flight to Paris when it exploded over Long Island sound. We are a very small community with a population of about 5000. Our other "claim to fame" would be Mike Mussina, pitcher for the Yankees that was born and raised in Montoursville and currently lives here in the off season. We are next to Williamsport PA which is where little league baseball was born and the home of the World Series every year. If you look at a map of PA and locate Harrisburg we are appr. 100 due north of Harrisburg up US Route 15.

I can't wait to see this collection of C-Dory's in June, I am super excited to meet you all and go cruising as a group. See ya in June!


Soapy Joe
22' Cruiser
 
Hey Terraplane Tom -- When do you need final T Shirt numbers? I'm getting orders in and gradually filling out the spreadsheet. I'll bug those that I need info from in about a week. If anyone else wants to sign up, please advise. For those without reservations at the Marina, better do it soon!

Charlie
 
OK---time to make it official and take some heat off from Tom---Terry,maybe Mary,maybe Myke---but Terry for sure,,,with reds & whites AND plenty of RED CAT---and a pair of missing gloves-- will be attending this record shattering event in June---Charlie:3 T shirts (1-XL,2-L)*** ramp-yes,***marina slip-all arranged,***motorhome parking-all arranged,***arrive:Thurs. June 1,***depart:Mon.June 5,(maybe-subject to discussion).
Charlie:need more info.? Ask.
Tom:check your PM's
El&Bill:I sure am going to miss you folks :sad :hug2 :hug2
Byrdman:since you got a real job you don't chat near as much :moon
To all other attendees: PARTY TIME :cocktail :beer RED :cat
Terry
 
Hot dog! The red and white dogs will be there - glad you all can make it! Things look like they're shaping up. We have a committee meeting this weekend, and will be able to report on other details soon.

Lokks like we have 26 boats so far, so we need a few more to break a record...any other brats out there who'd like to attend? Slips are going fast, so get your name in there if there's a chance you can make it.
 
Hey Charlie - can I order two tees even if we are not there? XXL and XL should do it - PM me with the ding!


Captains Choice":2hfxlxk4 said:
Hey Terraplane Tom -- When do you need final T Shirt numbers? I'm getting orders in and gradually filling out the spreadsheet. I'll bug those that I need info from in about a week. If anyone else wants to sign up, please advise. For those without reservations at the Marina, better do it soon!

Charlie
 
Terry, thanks for the info, it's going into the spreadsheet. :thup

You can find the latest list HERE

Bluecrab, I have 25 signed up now that Terry has weighed in, he hadn't signed up before this. Check my spreadsheet and let me know who I don't have....Thanks

Pat, you can have whatever T shirts you want, I'll enter your order and even personally take care of getting them shipped to you! We're really sorry you can't make it this year but I envy you your Alaskan Adventure. Hope you take lots of Pix.... :smile :smile

Charlie
 
Hey Charlie - I go cross-eyed after looking at spreadsheets for too long, but I think we have two people who signed up on the events page who are not on the spreadsheet, and one who's on the spreadsheet but is not on the event page:

On the event sign-up page, but not on spreadsheet:
Al - Sea Gypsy
Dan Tracy - Just Right

On the spreadsheet, but not on the event sign-up page:
Teflon Mom

I think I got this right. If all plan to come, it looks like we may now have a total of 27 boats.

Al, Dan Tracy and Teflon Mom - can you confirm you're attending?

Thanks!
 
John, you are correct! I go crosseyed too after awhile looking at them and this is a simple one compared to the ones I work with every day!!

We have 27 boats. I have updated the spreadsheet and you will be able to find it

HERE

After I do. For all those that have ?? in their lines, please PM or e-mail me with the missing information so we can have a complete listing. I will go out via PM or e-mail next week to all those I need info from and will also send a reminder to those that attended last year and have not yet signed up for this year!

Thanks for all the help from everyone!! :lol:

Charlie
 
Terry, glad to hear you are coming. Hope Mary can come too. She and I hit it off and it would be nice to see her again. Doug can bring the "Last Dance" around again for you. Can't wait to dig into those reds.

Planning meeting this weekend. Won't be long, it is only about two months away.

Took that week off so we can cruise with the group. Looking forward to seeing ALL the friends we made last year.

Doug & Anne
 
The June gathering committee , Lankford Bay, will meet tomorrow at 10am
This is your last chance for input on anything you'd like to see happen at the June gathering. We will be in touch here after our meeting to let you know any news.
I would urge any who are considering attending to NOW call for a slip reservation. We are now at 27 boats and John at Lankford Bay will soon begin assigning moorings, not slips. You can always anchor out, but there is no transport back and forth unless you dinghy in and out.

Best to all.

tom/terraplane
 
The June gathering committee , Lankford Bay, will meet tomorrow at 10am
This is your last chance for input on anything you'd like to see happen at the June gathering. We will be in touch here after our meeting to let you know any news.
I would urge any who are considering attending to NOW call for a slip reservation. We are now at 27 boats and John at Lankford Bay will soon begin assigning moorings, not slips. You can always anchor out, but there is no transport back and forth unless you dinghy in and out.

Best to all.

tom/terraplane
 
Captains Choice":34ibq8ku said:
You can find the latest list HERE



Charlie

Roger, if you take your mouse (the computer one, not a nearby rodent) and move it over the blue HERE above, it should "light up and underline itself). Click on it once and it'll take you to the documents forum where the spreadsheet is located... :lol:

For convenience, I reproduced it for you in this reply.

Charlie
 
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