Yamaha or Honda

My SWAG is that Yamaha focused their efforts on getting their products into as large a geographic area as possible while Honda focused on getting their products into the areas with the highest population density. This may be related to the cost/effort of becoming a Yamaha dealer as opposed to becoming a Honda dealer.

Warren
 
Doryman":2x8gx3og said:
My SWAG is that Yamaha focused their efforts on getting their products into as large a geographic area as possible while Honda focused on getting their products into the areas with the highest population density. This may be related to the cost/effort of becoming a Yamaha dealer as opposed to becoming a Honda dealer.

Warren
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Which is what?

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
I don't know -- Matt or Marc could comment, but I don't know if they will. Factors that come to mind are mandatory mechanic training courses, parts inventory requirements, minimum # of motors on display, etc., etc.

Remember, this was just a SWAG!

Warren
 
The SWAG is pretty good. Specialized tools, manuals, shop equipment, trainaing, required purchase of parts inventory at a certain level and product to show.

Honda would love for us to be a dealer, but we just don't see anything in their line we don't already have covered with Suzuki, Yamaha or even Evinrude.

Wiat, we don't have a noisy, air cooled model that can't run in gear at idle in our line ups. :wink:
 
Wefings":2sa0brj1 said:
My Yamaha Piano has less corrosion than my Suzuki Violin .
Marc
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That's obviously true! Everyone knows that a piano holds the keys to harmony while a violin only has fret (corrosion). :wink
 
Boris,

Actually there is a a Yamaha, Suzuki and a Merc dealer here in Port Alberni but there is no Honda dealer. I do see a few newer Hondas on some boats at the marinas around here and will have to ask next time where they get them serviced.

I believe Port Alberni has one of the only two 5 star Yamaha dealers in B.C.
 
Yamaha or Honda? Am curious about all these brand names. Had a 1996 Honda 90. Great motor. Japanese block with Mercury lower unit. Now have a 2006 Mercury 115 EFI. The block is Yamaha and the rest is Mercury according to dealer. This leads me to wonder is any of these so called brand names are pure bloods or just composites of what works regardless of the labels. I have yet to hear of a modern 4 - stroke, particularly EFI that doesn't perform flawlessly, i.e., talking with owners. I know there are high end European binoculars with glass made in Japan. I'll wager that most of these comparisons are similar to the brand loyalty of Ford, Chevrolet, Dodge, etc. Just a matter of opinion with little substantial facts to support the opinion. But as Twain said, "It is a difference of opinion that makes a horse race." 'John
 
I think the various brands are now pretty much independent, at least in the 90+ hp range. During the transition period from 2 stroke to 4 stroke (or DFI 2 stroke) there was a lot of rebranding of other manufacturers engines, but that seems to have changed now that the manufacturers have had time to develop their own lines. Small Mercury's are still Tohatsu's I think.

BTW, of all the boats that use the dock at our cabin (probably 25), the vast majority are Yamaha powered. The only person who I know of who has been stranded had a brand new 18 Whaler with a 150 Verado. I was unloading the boat when he got towed back by another neighbor and he said, "I bet this has never happened with your Honda."

Anecdotal evidence like this isn't the whole story and I'm sure there are dissatisfied Honda owners and happy Mercury owners. But I'll stick with Yamaha (we have one on the Whaler, and it's been bulletproof since 1997), Honda, and Suzuki.
 
I wasn't aware that Honda ever used Mercury components. That would be unsual because Honda is pretty independant.

Mercury did use Yamaha block for a number of years, and now everything 75 and up they build themselves. They have two blocks, and everything 75 through 300 is based on either the small block or big block. The 75, 90 and 115 are non supercharged engines. The 150 Verado used the same block as the 75, but is the Verado supercharged model. Engines 60 and under are built by Tohatsu, but lower units may be Merc design.

The last Johnson Four strokes were rebadged Suzukis, painted white.

Suzuki builds all of their own engines, as does Yamaha. The Yamaha 2.5 through 8 horsepower are built in France.

Nissan and Tohatsu are the same engines.

Evinrude builds all of it's motors in the US. They closed their China plant where they built the first runs of 25 and 30 horse E-Tecs, and had previously built some 4 stroke motors.
 
Wefings":1o1qoaty said:
Honda and Merc have the same lower units and props are interchangable at least in the V4 and V6 sizes
Marc
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OK, so who builds them, Honda or Merc?

Or do they just have the same design?

And if so, how and why would that be?

Curiouser, and curiouser ...!!!

Joe. :teeth :thup

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