Would you buy agin or go another way ?

Buy another CD25? :?:

YOU BET! :D

The Admiral is happy and comfortable while underway and cruising. :D When my wife is happy, I'm happy.

Sea Angel is very easy to love and care for. Why, she evens invites guest and little projects to keep me interested.

OH, did I also say that since I'm a 'big' guy, I fit.

Trailer or not I can usually get there dry.

Art
 
I certainly would buy again even though our particular boat Tomcat24, is no longer being built. If money were no object, I would probably look for a Tomcat 255 even as it looks and feels like a much bigger, longer, heavier boat than ours.

Hopefully we can get a few more years use from this current boat before the desire to upgrade and need for additional space hits. Only problem is that we have put so much customization into our current boat that to upgrade would mean more work. arrrg.

My hope is that the 255s in a few years will come down in price and a mint condition one with cockpit station will fall into our hands.
 
We had the 25 then a tiny 12 then went another way and bought a Lund day/fishing/exploring boat and have been enjoying that. But, the Lund is now for sale and we plan to get a 19 Angler in the future. We just miss the overnighting too much but at the same time want less of a commitment than the 25 took.

The C-dorys are pretty tough to beat for a variety of reasons although I agree with Tom that I would get a Marinaut over a 22 if I were buying in the 22 class. Its just a bit on the heavy side for our immediate plans.

Greg
 
One of the things that makes our 22 so good for is that we use it for "boater camping", we get a few quizzical looks at campgrounds but have camped in washington, Oregon, colorado,idaho,etc., etc. Were we to do it again we'd probably get another 22.
 
Wandering Sagebrush":2vejboff said:
I would probably do it again, but rethink the power. ... If a 22, a 115 Honda and small kicker.
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I've spent so much time trying to "figure" a way to feel good about the weight of that Honda 115. I just love that engine!

Right now I have about 480# on the transom (369# main; 108# secondary). So okay, the Honda BF115 would be about the same weight alone, and with a new engine (after break in), let's say I would feel comfortable with just the one engine (not sure on that yet, but for the sake of thinking out loud). So I could keep things at about 480#.

But then.... if I'm going to trust a new engine without a secondary engine, I could also do that with a 90, and come in around 110# lighter than the Honda 115. Or have a secondary engine and still come in lighter; or keep my current secondary engine and stay the same. So I can't quite make myself go for that line of thinking (which doesn't mean I might not go ahead and buy the Honda, in theory, but just that I can't "rationalize" it).

And then I think about the Yamaha 70. True, it's half the displacement that I have now (although only 10 fewer horsepower), but, but.... 257#! Ooh, back to design-weight power for the boat. I have to wonder how that would improve handling.

Right now, cruising with my 480# of power, when my buddy moves to the cockpit (250#) the boat handles so much less nicely. In fact, even if he moves from the forward port seat to the after one, it degrades handling and speed. Granted, that's adding weight, not taking it away vs. what is there now, but it does make me wonder how removing between 220# and 160# (main engine alone or main plus 60# secondary) would affect the boat.

I also looked at (on paper) the Yamaha 115 and the Suzuki 115. They are around 415#, IIRC (Honda 115 is 478# I think). The Yamaha seems to have a smallish alternator for its class. The Suzuki looks like a nice compromise between weight (just over 400#), displacement (it's between the Yamaha and the [huge] Honda). It has a higher alternator output than the Yamaha (can't look it up right now or I would put in a figure).

I think for starters I may take the Honda 8 off just to see how the boat handles without it. It's easy enough to remove and replace.

Okay, tangent... sorry (or maybe it's interesting to some).

Just got back online after some days away and catching up on things here :D
 
Our first 'sleep aboard' boat was 18'. We went through the sizes up to 33' and back down again. Our 22 has everything we want in a boat. I tell my friends (and anyone else who will listen), our boat sleeps 2, eats 2, and the party is always on someone else's boat.
I have no reason to change my 22, but if I did, I would be looking at another 22.

Martin.
 
I guess I should actually answer the question, not just go off on a tangent.

So far, I'm really enjoying the function of the 22. There do not seem to be a lot of boats to buy (barring semi-custom or build it yourself) that do the same thing (except for a few: other C-Dorys, Ventures, Marinauts).

If I were doing it again....

For the same amount of money: I'd buy the 22 again. I like the lightness/simplicity of my 22. Keeping tow weight around 5,000# opens up options.

For a bit more (or maybe the same, depending on year/equipment/etc.), I'd look closer at a Venture 23, for the improved hull form, etc.. I almost bought one, but then the seller sold it to someone else when I thought we were proceeding (argh) and then I found my 22. I was hemming and hawing between them anyway.

For a fair bit more money (basically because used/older as compared to new), I'd go for a Marinaut 21. I like the hull design and the sight lines from inside. Just not sure I like them as much as what else the "extra" money I'd have into one could do for me if I kept the 22.

If there were a "bombproof" aluminum boat that fit into the same weight/cost/operational cost of the 22, I'd sure look at it.

What these all have in common is the "Jeep/VW bug" factor, which I'm enjoying :thup
 
argh, I can't lie. my dream boat is a large Ranger Tug.

but given the parameters I have and had, the CD22 is still my choice and favorite. the rangers in my price range dont offer near the cabin space.
 
sunbeam, evinrude etech, 380 lbs, 115 hp is the answer if I was repowering with a single. 100 lbs less than the 4 strokers. More torque etc. But then, I'd never repower with just a single.
 
CFISHN,
If you're buying new, I would recommend the venture hull for a smoother ride and better fuel economy.

As far as aluminum hulls go, it's not a question whether but a question of when the hull pits and corrodes from saltwater use.
 
potter water":1rqw3fhn said:
sunbeam, evinrude etech, 380 lbs, 115 hp is the answer if I was repowering with a single. 100 lbs less than the 4 strokers. More torque etc. But then, I'd never repower with just a single.
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Good point: The E-Tec 90 is also light in relation to other similar engines. That said, when I ran one on Powell last year, I didn't really love it. I can think of a few little reasons why, but probably none of them were real reasons that say anything bad about the engine - I just didn't love it and so ruled it out for me.

Surprisingly (to me), the E-Tec 40's are really heavy as compared to other 40's (for twins). (I looked it up when a C-Dory came up for sale with twin E-Tec 40's while I was shopping for my boat).

I tend to agree on not re-powering with only a single. For that reason I'm not "sold" on eliminating my secondary engine (currently a 108# Honda 8hp). However, since I don't use a kicker as a kicker (i.e. for trolling), but rather only when I need a "powered oar" if something happens to the main, I'm thinking about changing to a lighter one. Say a 60# 6hp Tohatsu, or even a 28# Honda 2 (just to get to the side of the road, so to speak, not to head 40 miles home on Sunday night; plus it could double as a dinghy engine). Being used to having sails and an engine, or sails and oars, or an engine and oars, I have not quite come around to only having one engine (since oars or sail can't probably be rigged).

Originally I wanted twin engines. Because I think they are "cute" and I like the symmetrical look (good a reasons as any, I figured :D) I hunted and hunted for a boat with twins. But all the ones I found were either "rode hard and put away wet" or unsuitable to me for other reasons. Then I found a pristine boat with two engines in the form of main and secondary (kicker). So I went with that, promising myself that if I *really* wanted to, I could re-power with twins.

Up to a month ago, I was still pretty much lusting after twin Honda 50's, even though it would be "silly" financially (but then it's a boat, so who's counting "sensible" anyway). Now, after having used my boat on Powell for a month, I would really, really hate to give up that nice, big swim platform to port, and the big swath of open motorwell (made a platform there, thanks to idea from Two Bears' album) that leads up to it. We have used that to set stern anchors, for getting on and off the boat, for rinsing ourselves off, holding sandy shoes, and more. So now I'm warming up to my "fraternal twins," and my current thinking is that even if/when I re-power, I would go with either a single main or a single main and secondary (kicker). Subject to change of course :D

Sunbeam
 
Sunbeam":1luw2fjl said:
Up to a month ago, I was still pretty much lusting after twin Honda 50's, (some text clipped) Now, after having used my boat on Powell for a month, I would really, really hate to give up that nice, big swim platform to port
Sunbeam
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Be assured that it is possible to have a swim platform with twins. (An example is evident on pages 2 and 3 of my photo album). :)
 
Are you trying to re-tempt me? :D I have seen the swim platform with twins - and it definitely looked well usable - but... the larger one (and more open splashwell on that side) I have is really nice. But then each configuration has its "better" points, and I still just think it would be "neat" to have twins (all arguments aside). OTOH, I was happy to find an unexpected plus for my "fraternal twins" setup, since that's what I have now.

Now don't get me started on red-trimmed C-Dorys - that was my first choice..... never even saw one for sale when I was looking though :|
 
FYI, C-Dory is not offering a swim ladder as a factory option with twin engines (on their 26 Venture).

I see one on a CD 22. It would have to be called a "minimalist" swim ladder.

Aye.
 
DaveS":377j748z said:
Sunbeam":377j748z said:
Up to a month ago, I was still pretty much lusting after twin Honda 50's, (some text clipped) Now, after having used my boat on Powell for a month, I would really, really hate to give up that nice, big swim platform to port
Sunbeam
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Be assured that it is possible to have a swim platform with twins. (An example is evident on pages 2 and 3 of my photo album). :)
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those white Johnsons are SHARP. :thup
 
DuckDogTitus":1ckdr2ml said:
those white Johnsons are SHARP. :thup
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Thanks, I think they go well with the boat color scheme since they are white and sport a "splash" of red on the sides of the upper covers.

FYI, they are Suzukis under a Johnson cover.
 
The bigger the swim platform, the more useful it can be.

Of course, any platform that can help save your behind in a MOB situation is a Godsend, but I have a full-width one (9ft x 2 ft) on my Sea Ray that makes me want something like that on my C-Dory.

I guess the swim platform's necessarily limited size on an outboard powered boat is a definite negative trade off for this type of boat, and twins magnify the problem.

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
I wanted to be certain that Sunbeam was aware that is possible to have a swim platform with twins on a C-Dory. (In the past some C-Brats were unaware that a small number of us have been able to have them installed with our twins.)
Certainly, this platform is not quite as large as the one on our former 16' C-Dory, but it certainly serves the purpose intended and I haven't thought twice about the size difference.
We have utilized it on numerous occasions to reboard the vessel while out tubing behind the boat. Additionally, when anchored with the anchor buddy off the bow, we've been able to step on and off the shore to and from the swim platform with ease.
All things we do with our vessels become a bit of a compromise and space certainly dictates the possibilities.
 
DaveS":byzdnvux said:
I wanted to be certain that Sunbeam was aware that is possible to have a swim platform with twins on a C-Dory.
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Thanks, Dave. I happen to have seen a couple (C-Cakes and one other 22, but I forget which one at the moment), but I bet it is not common knowledge since the builders never added one (that I know of anyway).


DaveS":byzdnvux said:
All things we do with our vessels become a bit of a compromise and space certainly dictates the possibilities.
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Isn't that the truth (even on bigger boats but definitely on our size vessels). To me it's like a curse/Zen, depending on how I'm looking at it at the moment (but mostly I'd say it's one of the satisfying things about boating, in its way).
 
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