Which is better: 22' cruiser or 25' cruiser?

I don't think enough opinions have been heard on this topic...

Anyway, I think the side view of the 22, with it's jaunty, more upturned bow, is the winner on looks. I have liked the 22 since I first saw a picture of one in the late 70's.

With all kudos to El, whom I think is one of the neatest gals around, I have yet to meet another gal who does not prefer the private head. For myself, I've had other boats with a head under the V-berth and I just do not like sleeping with my head on the boat's head.

I had a hard time picking between a CD25 and a TomCat255, but I knew in the long run, I would want the TomCat. So it came down to buying something less than what I knew I wanted, planning to upgrade later, or buying what I knew I would want in the long term - while I am still working - and then, if things were tight, trading back down to a 25 or 22.

I don't think I'd be able to afford stepping up to a TomCat at retirement time, and I hope to have it paid off by then... but who knows?

In buying a car/truck/boat you need to get one that lights your fire, because it can get pretty dismal 2-4 yrs down the road if you're still making a payment, and paying for repairs on something you don't really like.

John
 
It may surprise folks to find out that some of us 25 owners agree that the 22 is, indeed, a "classic". It looks well-proportioned, purposeful, and to my eye, jaunty. But, that's not to say that the 25 is any less beautiful to me. Yes, I can live with a beauty, and still appreciate other classic looks. Line, design, and beauty were a part of our career for over 3 decades; it's nice to be able to appreciate different classic (and classy) looks.

I don't see that the 25 is a "pushed out" version of the 22. It has its own, straighter lines. While beamier, it looks longer and leaner than the 22. A bit less caricature, and more "business-like... a classy stretch-limo, instead of a family sedan. :wink:

Now, if you want to see "pushed out", look no further than the new Venture 29. To my eye, while trying to maintain the look of the 22, someone has created a "Baby Huey" version.

And if you want down-right cute and "just right", it's hard to beat the 16! :D

It doesn't have to be "mine is better looking than yours"; it can be, "don't we all have great-looking boats!"

Best wishes,
Jim B. (I love the long, lean look of our 25 in our signature image below)
 
oldgrowth":1zxnykcu said:
You want to know more of the history of the C-Dory, come to the Seattle Boat Show CBGT at the Hawthorn. Ben Toland will be my guest and we will be sharing a room.

He will be able to answer most of your questions.
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Dave-

I'm going to be looking forward to meeting Ben!

I want to get the real scoop on who and how these boats were designed.

To me, the differences and similarities of the many various models over the years has always posed an array of questions begging to be answered.

See Ya' (AND Ben) in Seattle!

Joe. :thup :teeth
 
It doesn't have to be "mine is better looking than yours"; it can be, "don't we all have great-looking boats!"
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Ditto..............we do all have great looking boats and I really like that sleek look of your 25


regards
ryder
 
Has anyone considered that this thread (and the twins vs single thread, both started by DaveFran, who has a grand total of 2 posts) perhaps was put out there as a way to get more "entertainment"?

So, DaveFran, if that is your real name :wink: , whatja learn from all of this? Yeah, we love our boats.
 
JamesTXSD":1tykxyqh said:
Has anyone considered that this thread (and the twins vs single thread, both started by DaveFran, who has a grand total of 2 posts) perhaps was put out there as a way to get more "entertainment"?

So, DaveFran, if that is your real name :wink: , whatja learn from all of this? Yeah, we love our boats.
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Whoever the person/Mystery Guest is, at least it's been a pleasant, soft-gloved, and fiendly interlude focused on our boats!

Merry Christmas!

Joe. :thup :teeth
 
A long time ago, in my poorer, 2 kids days, when I was looking for a boat for my family a friend that came along on a "look-see" told me.........when buying a boat pick out the one that you can afford and is bigger than you will ever need,
then ...........get the next bigger one as you will regret not doing it all the while you own you initial choice.
That advice has worked for me so far. Now about that 25' model...........
 
[/b]The Most Beautiful Boat[/b]


The most beautiful boat is the one that I'm in
The water a lover with blue liquid skin.
So unlimber the lines, and shove out the bow
And after I back out, we'll turn to the prow.
No matter how slow, how big or how fast
A craft on the water is just plain kick ass!
I've been in some skiffs, some rafts and canoe,
I've tipped inner tubes and rowed a lot too,
I've sailed and I've seen the wind and its jerk,
But honestly now, it don't always work!
The hum of an engine, tuned to a purr
Inspires confidence, right down to my fur.
So put her in gear, and engage the throttle,
I'll watch where we go, (maybe later that bottle).
That recent repair, it really does hold
It ain't leakin' water and now I feel BOLD!
We pull ‘round the corner and make sure it's clear
Then check for the logs and ships that are near.
Anticipation writhes and courses to fore,
The engine practically vibrates, asking for more.
I push it on forward and bring her on plane
By God I'm alive and boating again!
We're flying along the wake dropping back,
The wheel comes alive, it’s no longer slack.
I look to the land and see a paved road,
The freedom out here a whole ‘nuther mode.
Mere asphalt is frozen unable to move
My hull’s liquid canvas a slippery groove.
A car tilts out wrong, it clutches for grip,
A boat’s like a bike, it leans then it rips.
Hills on a road are so cold and unbending
While waves’energies a pulse never-ending.
Lanes on a street just curb and contain me
Then aqua abandon practically drains me.
Life on the water, an adventure sublime
To strive and to seek and not just recline.

by C.W.
 
Sea Wolf":3rcy42a6 said:
Not For Hire":3rcy42a6 said:
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The CD-22 is masterpiece. The 25 it's decent looking sister. Some of us can see this, some my not.
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Joe,

As a owner of a CD 25 I have come to appreciate ALL of the smaller CDS, especially the 22 angler and cruiser. I guess I'll have to get Dee her CD 16 if we want a good looking boat. :xlol

Don

? does size matter? :?
 
Knotty C":a1k2f3f9 said:
Sea Wolf":a1k2f3f9 said:
Not For Hire":a1k2f3f9 said:
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The CD-22 is masterpiece. The 25 it's decent looking sister. Some of us can see this, some my not.
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Joe,

As a owner of a CD 25 I have come to appreciate ALL of the smaller CDS, especially the 22 angler and cruiser. I guess I'll have to get Dee her CD 16 if we want a good looking boat. :xlol

Don

? does size matter? :?
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Don-

Thanks for the humor!

Hope I haven't caused to many bad feelings because of my remarks about the 25.

Each of the C-Dorys is unique and god looking, I just think the lines are more integrated on the CD-22s.

I've been spending quite a bit of time reviewing my thinking on this critique, and I think the real central issue about the 25 is how they expanded the cabin to get the extra room for the head and other cabin additions.

The cabin on the 25 is proportionately larger than it is on the 22 and doesn't follow the same lines that match the rest of the boat as well, and is bulged out to the gunnels. Also, the side windows are disproportionately small, squarish, and don't match and integrate with the overall design like they do on the 22.

Apparently most people don't notice the differences, so it's a moot point to all but a few of us that can see them.

Good Luck with the 16 for your wife for Christmas! Did you buy her a new truck to tow the 25 with last year?

Hope you have a Merry Christmas!

Cheers!

Joe. :thup :teeth
 
Well, we could take it one more level.
I would say that the old (pre 87) classics are the best looking of the whole fleet.
The lines of the classic are more pleasing and more salty looking by far. IMHO
I didn't think that there was so much difference in the old VS new till last winter when Sensei and Halcyon were sitting side by side inside my barn .
 
Pat, Roger, and all:

I tried to convey my thoughts as gently and as FRIENDLY as possible and still get the point across, but alas, have hit the hot button or electrode for some in the process.

We had a somewhat similar discussion a year or two ago, with somewhat the same result.

Someone then reminded us of an old saying that contained the message that you can say a lot of things, but one of the things you can't get away with is to criticize a man's wife. Decided we ought to add his boat to that list! Not too sure about his truck or dog, but probably ought to include them, too!

Maybe we just ought to concentrate on Mother-In-Law and Bayliner jokes!

My apologies to all who were offended. Contact DogonDan for a full refund.

Merry Christmas!

Joe. :thup :teeth
 
Good Luck with the 16 for your wife for Christmas! Did you buy her a new truck to tow the 25 with last year?
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Joe,

Yes, Dee has asked for for a CD 16 for Christmas. And I have asked for a yellow Mokai.

http://www.mokai.com/

And yes I did buy Dee a new tow vehicle for the tow from Vancouver, USA to Prince Rupert BC and back. Dee took her turn towing the 25 through the worst part of the drive. She usually docks, and powers the boat on and off the trailer. It's fun to see the reaction of the good ol boys in their Bayliners when she does that. 8)

Another consideration between a 22 and a 25. A half ton will tow the 22 but you will need at least a 3/4 ton to tow the 25. Been there, limped-in to trade-in that.

Don
 
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