Upgrading from Raymarine C Series to Axium ???

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Upgrading from Raymarine C Series to Axium ???

Wondering how many here have made the switch from the old Raymarine C series (80 or 120) to the Axium? And if you went with the Pro or the Plus version? And If so, which did you choose? Why? And are you happy with what you got? Would you do the same switch again? If not, why not?

I am at the point of needing to make that decision and I see both pros and cons for each way so I’m looking to learn from others experience here. I am going to update the radar to the digital 2K, and the sounder, but that isn’t solid set yet either. Down and sidescan will require a new transducer to get the High Def bottom picture. How much better is that than the old transducer?

My current system is functioning well, with only very rare hiccups. I will have those parts for sale after the switch, if anyone is interested.

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Harvey
SleepyC:moon
 
The things to consider is that the "RealVision" is a definite improvement, combining down and side scan. The Radar is send via Wifi and will work with all about the same.

The Axiom plus is going to have a significantly faster processor, and to keep it from being obsolete, I would go that way for future updates.

I had a 9" touch screen and a 7" hybrid touch and dial/button. In heavy weather it is easier to use the dial/button method, vs the touch. In the 25, there was just enough room to put the 9" touch and then 7" hybrid (about the same size over all as the 9" touch) in front of the helm. Not sure if there is enough room in the 22 there or not.

Older auto pilot works with new system.
 
"The Axiom plus is going to have a significantly faster processor, and to keep it from being obsolete, I would go that way for future updates."
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Are not the Axium+ and the Axium Pro running the same processor?

I like the availability of the knobs, especially when it is a bumpy ride, so thinking of going with the Pro for that reason. Also, to keep greasy or wet fingers off the screen.

I have thought about having some way to rotate the transducer 90 degrees horizontally for use at slow speeds to see ahead for anchor spot prospecting.

Harvey
SleepyC:moon

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Well I pulled the trigger on the axiom+ 9 RV with the RV transducer included. I also got a splitter so I can still work with the legacy P58. Should get to me in the next few days. I had an e7D. I do worry that the "touch only" could be problematic long term - we will see. The PRO models were much more money for features I didn't need (I run a furuno radar wifi to an ipad for example) - though the physical knobs are nice (note: apparently you "can" use one of the axiom ports to "add" the keyboard/knob controls).

The ATC blade fuse required is an odd 7A - I am thinking a 7.5A (more available) fuse will work fine.
 
The PRO does support 0138/2000 while the axiom non-pro only supports 2000.
So, for example, I cannot feed the MDF GPS location into my legacy horizon vhf unless I get a fairly expensive converter cable (articsense iirc). I am going to deal with this by using an old hand-held garmin gps that can output 0183 and use that to feed GPS until I upgrade the VHF as well and go 2000 network.
 
krc, I’ve used the touch screen on the IPad for 11 seasons now & not once has it been a problem to use & it has seen plenty of rough water use. I now also have the Axiom+ & used it last summerI & prefer it’s touch screen to the knobs & buttons of my older Garmin’s. You may end up like me, preferring the touchscreen.

Jay
 
Older gps’s could only receive 12 satellites and accuracies were within about 90 feet. While the new units will receive 30 satellites and are accurate within about 9 feet. With the out of date electronics you stand a much better chance of hitting that rock just under the surface. I think I would update to newer devices that are compatible with the newer technologies.
 
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Older gps’s could only receive 12 satellites and accuracies were within about 90 feet..
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This will be just temporary until I upgrade VHF next year sometime. I only have the old GPS handled fed into the horizon for DSC only. MFD has its own GPS which I hope should be very accurate.
 
I too have been contemplating upgrading some electronics. We have Raymarine C80 with Navionics, Radar and older auto pilot. We have a Garmin stand alone Depth sounder/fish finder that works very well. Also a Samsung Tab 10A android tablet with Navionics subscription. The thing I would like to update first is the radar because ours is old and we have no redundancy there if it fails. I know the new digital radar won't work with the C80, but if it is connected with WI-FI can I connect it to the Samsung tablet and if so can I do a radar overlay on the navionics map as I can currently do on the C80? Also, I am a bit confused by the WI-FI technology, as that implies to me that we would need internet conectivity. Is this really WI-FI or Bluetooth, or something else?
 
Doug, I don't know the answers to all your questions, but when I was talking with Rodgers, their recommendation for me was to go with the wired 2K digital. It does have the capability to do wifi, and I believe that generates from the radar to your tablet, so that might work. Not sure about the overlay, that might be a Navionics setting. Maybe someone here with a better understanding of that function can help out.

My initial motivation for the upgrade was for radar first (because I use my radar anytime the boat is running and) I was getting concerned that the Magnatron might give out in some really nice place like up at the far end of Knight Inlet or Blackfish Sound in the fog.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

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Doug, Yes, that is the one. That bolt pattern fits the current RM 2K and I just recently removed the old one to have the Strut powder coated and put back on with nylon bushings, washers and stainless hardware so the is no metal contact with the strut. (So hopefully it won't flake off like the previous one due to that contact.)

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

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I have the quantum wireless only Radar. It must have a password protected connection to your Axiom MFD to work with a tablet (or overlay--which is a RayMarine MFD display function.). You can mirror the MFD on tablets, and we do this if Marie had to watch radar or chart plotter when I was eyes on the water in reduced visibility.

There are some advantages to the wired--but passing the wires would have to be done when I put the power cable in--due to multiple other wires going thru the pipe Radar arch.
 
I have decided to change out my 17 year old Raymarine electronics system with a new Raymarine Axiom + system which will include the radar. At the moment I am trying to learn as much as I can about the various components and trying to put together the options into a system that I hope will last me for many more years. Raymarine has an excellent series of videos on YouTube and I just watched one on radar this morning. Many of these are about a hour long, so I am rationing myself to one a day. Here's the link if anyone is interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bbj3ZgXmes
 
Peter and Judy,

Thank you for posting this link. I learned much in viewing this first series. Great presentation from the staff at RayMarine to better understand how radar works and how to take advantage of the settings available on the RayMarine Quantum Radar. Gary.
 
Yes , thanks Peter and Judy from us also. That was very informative and answered many questions for me. We will either have to stick with what we have or get both the Raydome and Plotter at the same time. That plotter looks really nice though. I might have to shake out my piggy bank.
 
And Thank you from SleepyC too. That was helpful, as are the other ones I found near that one on the Axium plotter and the sounder. Been there half the night already. Great help.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

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For those that are using the AXIUM I am wondering what you are using for the sounder system, as in which transducer and what bottom views are you using (most)? And are you using any source for water speed? If so, where are you getting that from?

Thinking about keeping my P66 transducer and running that beside the RV-100.

Responses from no Raymarine users are OK too.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

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We have the RV-100 transducer and exclusively use the RealVision 3D High Frequency Chirp to locate fish and baitfish. We use Waggoners Table (formerly know as Washburn's Tables) to give an indication of current.
 
I'm just working out the details of my Raymarine System order with the dealer. Getting all the parts in this time of shortages and delays may be the biggest challenge. I will be ordering the Axiom+ 12" with the Real Vison Sonar and the RV-100 transducer. I will also keep my small Garmin on the boat as a backup. I bought this a couple of years ago as a backup to my old Raymarine C80 as it was not always giving an accurate reading. I have since discovered that part of the reason for this is the abundance of fresh water in the inside passage that will mess with both depth sounders. I felt that I had a backup for everything else, GPS, VHF, paper charts compass, but not the depth sounder.

For anyone interested, I should have a Raymarine C80 system with Radar, fish finder and Autopilot for sale this spring.
 
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