Twin Suzuki's or Honda's for a new 22?

The above Yahoo link is Yamaha Source advertisement based on a report by J.D. Power and Associates.

I've been hearing about J.D. Power and Associates in several advertisements. Do any of you know much about them? I don't and was curious what their background is, where they get their money etc... Are they legit or are they a private company that someone hires to show positive test results on a product?
 
Thanks everybody for your input about my engine choices. I have decided on twin Suzuki 40's. I am expecting a mid April delivery at the factory. I plan on keeping my new boat up in Anacortes for a month or two, so that I can cruise the San Juan and Gulf islands for a few weeks. Then I will trailer the boat home to Southern California. Thanks again,

Scott
 
Here's one I just couldn't help dippin' into! I'm weighing the same question as Scott, and boat in the same area. Sealife has twin Suzuki 40s on her right now and they have been flawless. I put alot of hours on my engines due to my CGAUX activities, so the extended warranty of six years weighed heavily in my decision to stick with Suzuki. We have a nearby dealer in Suzukis, but I'm not a fan of his customer service, so I choose to take my boat to Marina Del Rey to another more hospitable dealer for service. That aside, I like the quietness, smoothness, and quick starting of the engines (regardless of weather) that comes from their fuel injection. Another big plus is their 18 Amp output, compared to Honda's 10 Amp. That give me 36 amps of output from the twins, compared to 20 from Honda. They do weigh about 80 lbs more than Hondas (twins), but I think you can offset that with tabs and/or a bit more chain in the anchor locker. I wish they came in white, because the black color shows the calcium deposits too readily (this was a real annoyance until I discovered a common household product for removing these kinds of stains). So, my new boat, a 22 Cruiser is ordered with twin Suzuki 50hp. I upped the horsepower because I'm now usually carrying a crew of two with my CG patrols.
 
Sealife":ngg4o4ib said:
I wish they came in white, because the black color shows the calcium deposits too readily (this was a real annoyance until I discovered a common household product for removing these kinds of stains).
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Sealife, don't know if you read my post on this thread, but my Johnson 50's are white and the Johnson is merely a Suzuki with a white cover. You may view pix of them on the more recent pages of the Sea Shift photo album.
 
Whatta Hornet's Nest!!! Just as much fun as the Chevy vs. Ford vs. Dodge Truck discussion!

Lots of great points and healthy discussion here. Don chronicles the development of FI and EFI very well. Dusty adds that all systems have problems and the dealer back up is paramount. Both think that being able to work on a carburetor is an important safety point, and there's much truth to that point. And Larry points out why the old J/E OMC's were so reliable, something I hadn't really appreciated before. Good job all!

But I'm wondering how often most of us would attempt to remedy a fuel problem beyond changing filters and dumping sediment bowls, etc. I think that most would try the obvious just mentioned, and then just go home on the other engine, the kicker, or call Vessel Assist, etc. And especially if the engine is still under warranty* and you're not lost and disabled 50 miles from the nearest settlement in Kamchatka! (*Wouldn't want to void the warranty it with a Non-Certified Mechanic's work.)

Fun discussion and good job all! Have a great weekend!!! Joe.
 
because the black color shows the calcium deposits too readily (this was a real annoyance until I discovered a common household product for removing these kinds of stains
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So what is this common household product?? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
On a sour note, I'll guess vinegar, since the acetic acid reacts with the insoluble calcium salts to produce calcium acetate which readily dissolves in water. But keep the beer handy, just in case needed for other projects or activities! Joe.
 
Don't worry there is always beer at the ready. For christening, for rinsing; the throat , the boat, did I mention the throat. And single malt scotch BTW.

Still waiting for the official response.
 
Phantom-

The suzuki is actually lighter! When comparing the honda 135 to the suzuki 140 as I was. The honda is 485 the suzuki is 420. I guess I should have made clear which motors I was talking about, as those were the ones I got quotes on and was looking at for a different boat. I would have guessed or assumed the suzuki's would be lighter at lower HP too. But that's what I get for assuming. :embarrased

Sark
 
So,would all you guys (gals) who are rocket scientists help out a total novice on the site which says "90 Honda advice" and give me some idea of what this engine will require of me? I have no , repeat, NO, outboard experience. On my old Ford Lehman 124 hp diesel is change filters, and run.

I really would like some step by step advice...For instance: I take possession of the boat..i break it in, ...so, what are the maintenance things, the things to watch for, etc.

Someone could really do a book for we newcomers..

tom/terraplane
 
Break-in is really pretty well spelled out in the manual, it is worth a read. Mainly just RPM limitations in the first 2 & 10 hours. Then what everybody said in the other thread. Finally, follow the maintenance schedule, which for the 40s anyway is a service at 20 hours and then every 100 hours. These suckers pretty much just work.


terraplane":2xz9cuq8 said:
I really would like some step by step advice...For instance: I take possession of the boat..i break it in, ...so, what are the maintenance things, the things to watch for, etc.
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I can't remember the name of the product, but it's name is the something like CRS (Calcium, Rust, Scale) and comes in a green plastic squeeze bottle. The liquid is a jell so it doesn't run. Simple wipe it on, let it sit a moment or two, then wipe away the stains and rinse well. Next time I go to the boat I'll check the name.

Mike - Sealife
 
Just remembered the name of a similar product to the one I use on my engines......Lime Away. This product does exactly the same thing except it's not a jell, so it's a bit runny on vertical surfaces. But it does work like a miracle.

Mike - Sealife
 
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