Twin 20"s on a CD-16?

jhayes1068":19w86n6g said:
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As mentioned, I feel much safer getting to a safe area/port with a single 20 Hp rather than a 6-8 Hp.
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Jim, I'm not sure why you feel the need to have twin 20's rather than a kicker. I'm pretty sure that a 20 HP won't get your boat on plane and if that's the case, you probably won't be going much faster than you would with a kicker which will push your boat at hull speed. We had to use our 9.9hp kicker on our CD-22 once heading back 2/3 of the way to Bellingham. It took awhile but it worked great and I had no worries about safety using the kicker. On my 16' Angler, I have a 40 year old 6hp Evinrude hanging on the back and that is one sweet little motor. She purrs like a kitten and I have no qualms about using that motor in an emergency.
 
My son-in-law asked this same question about 4 years age when he was considering a 16. I'd even thought about it myself and 'where to put a dual binnacle control' was the answer. Duals do have their pros and cons but the control issue 'seems' to say no way.
 
Hi Peter, it's weight, and a weight distrubution issue, throughout the boat. I have a lot of experience with weight & balance as it applies to aircraft loading and think those same principles can and should be applied to boat loading. While it's not something that's going to create a "Bad Flight" (aircraft crash because of improper loading/overloading) problem like a aircraft, but, I think if the boat is as light in weight as possible, properly balanced with all equipment, consumables, and people on board, it will certain run more effecient and be safer when things go to &*%$. I guess I'm particular about the boats I own and 28 years of military discipline just transmits to the organization and set-up of a boat. My wife calls it "Being Really Picky". Maybe that wasn't the way she said it, but, I can't print it here! :lol: Jim
 
It certainly is an advantage of being able to start a kicker if there's no power available. I had hoped to prevent that from happening by carring a Honda generator aboard. Again, everthing added to the boat adds weight; no problem for the bigger boats, but, I'd want to know the total weight I was taking aboard a CD-16 and how I've distributed that weight around the boat. Thanks, Jm
 
On our 16' Cruiser "Cachita", we had a Suzuki 50hp main and a 6hp kicker. I added the kicker and swim step. Never had to use the kicker.

Size and location of engine(s), fuel tank(s) & swim step need to be considered for weight & balance. Fully equipped, the transom our boat was heavily loaded. Permatrim foil on main helped a lot and loading all gear as far forward as possible.

It may be possible to do extended cruising on a 16' Cruiser, but its terribly cramped and lacking amenities. Good for a day trip or overnight camping in calm weather or seas.

Brian
 
Jim,

I understand your desire to evenly distribute weight. Have you had a chance to take a ride in a 16' yet? Or a 19'? It might help in making your decision.

I have a 16' Angler with two-strokes. These boats are light to begin with and very easy to load and off-load from the trailer. I added a second battery and it has a 12 gallon gas tank. With the two-strokes, it is lighter than having four strokes. I took family members in my boat last month and weight wasn't an issue. As for loading and weight distribution, in a small boat like a 16', there's not a whole lot of distributing you can do other than moving loads around. Or adding trim tabs or a Permatrim, which I've heard is more useful in a 16' Cruiser compared to a 16' Angler.

That's why I suggest riding in one of these boats first before thinking about adding 2 20's. Of course, living in Indiana doesn't really give you much of a chance to take a sea trial. But these boats are really stable and I recall Redfox posting years ago that he actually prefers his boat to be stern heavy. My point being, it would take a lot of extra weight to make the boat too heavy. Not trying to change your mind, you're going to do what you're going to do. Good luck in your research. :thup

Peter
 
Peter, I haven't riden in either boat and that would have a lot to do in making a decision. As of this time I'm planning on a solo trip up the Inside Passage. My wife refuses to go on the trip unless the boat is 1000 ft long and has a buffet on board. So, I think the CD-16 will be o.k. to make the trip as I don't require too much comfort other than staying dry, a good hot meal, and a shower every two to three days. That's not to say I wouldn't buy a CD-19 if the right one came along and I've saved the money to buy it without hocking the car or house. I've seen both boats at dealers and the CD-19 would allow more options for the trip. I'll just have to wait until the boat, money, and a run in both boats all meet at once. :D
I can tell you that it sure is fun digging out all of the information for the future. Thanks, Jim
 
Brian, I know what you're saying about extended periods on the CD-16. I thought a camper enclosure would help that situation to some extent, so the boat would be more user friendly when anchored or tied up. Of course, due to the size of the boat the main focus would have to be on weather, sea states, and staying out of the way of the Columbia and other boats. Thanks, Jim
 
jhayes1068":1oo7oyew said:
Peter, I haven't riden in either boat and that would have a lot to do in making a decision. As of this time I'm planning on a solo trip up the Inside Passage. My wife refuses to go on the trip unless the boat is 1000 ft long and has a buffet on board. So, I think the CD-16 will be o.k. to make the trip as I don't require too much comfort other than staying dry, a good hot meal, and a shower every two to three days. That's not to say I wouldn't buy a CD-19 if the right one came along and I've saved the money to buy it without hocking the car or house. I've seen both boats at dealers and the CD-19 would allow more options for the trip. I'll just have to wait until the boat, money, and a run in both boats all meet at once. :D
I can tell you that it sure is fun digging out all of the information for the future. Thanks, Jim
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There's a CD-22 available in Southern California for about $12,500-or so!

(At least there WAS......!)

1987 22' Angler (Newport Beach, CA) $12,500

You could sell your 16 for a NORMAL price, then buy the (UNDER-PRICED) 22, and have money left over!?!?!

Howszzat for a deal? TWO-FOOTITIS (actually 6) and Money Back!

Joe :lol: :thup
 
Harvey, that's a great picture of the camperback on the 16 and it extends the all-weather size of the boat to almost double the cabin space. Thanks

Joe, I saw that CD-22 advertised on the C-Brats site and the boat sure has possibilities if the hull/ transom are sound.It is being sold at a good price. I'd like to see more close-up pictures , both inside and outside of the boat before a trip all the way west to look at it. I don't think the boat will be for sale long at that price. Thanks
 
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