The Marinaut 215??

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Hello again all - Originally I was looking at the 19' Angler then came across theThe Marinaut 215. This vessel seems to be best of both worlds with the removable bulkhead which seems to make it easier to fish and has the comfort of a cruiser (sink, stove). I already know I love fishing and boating so really only want to buy one time and be done with it. I am in Citrus Heights, Ca and would be fishing out of the bay area. I know both boats are going to be great but would really like thoughts on this. If i was to buy the 19' Angler I would buy new old stock or used. Of course with theThe Marinaut 215 it would be new so.
again, thoughts please and safe fishing!!!!

Cheers - Nick
 
Nick,

Here's the strait (SP, it's a local joke) scoop. You would probably be happy with either one, but why just do something to get by. I just got back from the Bellingham CBGT and spent some time on the Marinaut with builder/designer Dave Thompson. It is a very well thought out vessel. Since I have never been on a l9, I will just tell you my thoughts on the Marinaut. Very well crafted. Larger cabin than the CD 22, due to the forward raked windshields, Saddle tanks with 60 gal capacity, with a switch to burn from port, starboard or both, easy access to tanks, filters and lines. Taller windows, all around. Probably a dryer ride, though we didn't get it out, the design says so. Wiper switches on both sides, Forward water tank. Clear inspection hatch cabin sole forward in an essentially double hulled craft. Shorter than a 22 C-Dory but with a longer water line. Sturdy fittings, with no holes into the cabin sole or hull.

ON EDIT: I forgot to mention the V-Birth. It is modified, more open than the 22, with a longer side, great if you are traveling single, and as much as the l9 has and I think the 22 on the helm side.

The l9 folks to talk to would be the R-Matey crew, Ruth and Joe and get their opinions, since they had one and have now seen the other.

Good luck with the choice, and Welcome here, you have come to the right pl;ace for C-Dory info, and much other as well.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon
 
Were I in the market for a new 19 or 22...this boat would get serious consideration.

Feature-wise, I only see one area where it's surpassed by the 19/22 - the ability to outfit with twins, is not an option on the Marinaut. For some, that might be a deal breaker. For me, preferring singles - it's a non-issue, and the extra storage in the cockpit due to the motor well configuration is a bonus.

Anxiously awaiting some ride reports, fuel burn, etc.
 
Maybe I’m missing something, but from looking at layout of the Marinaut 215 it doesn’t’ look like the dinette makes into a berth. Everything else about the boat is great, not having that 3rd berth would be a deal breaker.

The other puzzling feature is the location of the stern cleats. My stern cleats get a lot of action pulling hung up pots, I would be concerned with chafing along the sides of the boat with recessed forward stern cleats.
 
I liked the Marinaut lines, cockpit, saddle fuel tanks, and transom area a lot. Having the fresh water tank up under the vee berth is a great idea. should help with weight distribution quite a bit. Not being able to mount twins would be a negative. There is very little storage space, cabinets, etc. The cutout dash allows really great entry into the vee berth but the flip side is that the passenger has nothing but three feet of air in front of them, no place to put anything and nothing to hold onto in rough water but a grab bar along the side of the cabin wall, I can see somebody getting thrown about pretty badly. By the time you mount electronics the dash area at the helm is pretty non-existent too. I suggested to Dave that he consider putting a dash in and hinging it so it could be secured in an up position for overnighting because the vee berth access is really nice but having no dash and the big open air space in front of the passenger would be a deal breaker. The Marinaut looks like it would be a great 1-2 person fishing boat but is not really my idea of a cruiser.
 
Thanks again for all the info - I am looking for more of a fishing boat for sure. If I am reading right, the Marinaut has about 1' more of deck space for fishing than the 19' angler which has 4' of deck space. Looking forward of reports on how the 215 does in the water.
 
I spent some time on the Marinaut and talking to Dave.
He said the pricing should be in the low $40,000 range for the boat plus motors, trailer and electronics. The boat will be custom built for each owner, and features can be added or omitted.

The cockpit has a flat floor, side mounted 30 gallon tanks, with a nice shelf over the tanks below the gunnels. The area at the transom is open with nothing there but a battery, so extra tanks,batteries, ice chests, or custom items can be installed there.

They will build a customer a boat when they get an order, but delivery may take 2 months from now. No boats will be built that have not been ordered, as the customer has to specify the colors, and any color gel coat can be used.

The rear bulkhead is removable so it looks like it will make good fishing boat. The interior is decraguard and can be built as all seating if desired. The boat can also be ordered without any interior so the owner can build their own interior.

I found that the inside of the cabin is a pleasant place to sit and the windows give a good view of the scenery.
 
breausaw":27wle6sn said:
The other puzzling feature is the location of the stern cleats. My stern cleats get a lot of action pulling hung up pots, I would be concerned with chafing along the sides of the boat with recessed forward stern cleats.
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The stern cleats on my C-D 22 are too far back and fenders hung from them just roll around behind the transom. I have made modifications to mount the rear fender whips foreward a bit so the fenders can protect the boat from the dock.
IMO the Marinaut's rear cleats are an improvment.
 
Larry H":3903acde said:
I spent some time on the Marinaut and talking to Dave.
He said the pricing should be in the low $40,000 range for the boat plus motors, trailer and electronics. The boat will be custom built for each owner, and features can be added or omitted.

The cockpit has a flat floor, side mounted 30 gallon tanks, with a nice shelf over the tanks below the gunnels. The area at the transom is open with nothing there but a battery, so extra tanks,batteries, ice chests, or custom items can be installed there.

They will build a customer a boat when they get an order, but delivery may take 2 months from now. No boats will be built that have not been ordered, as the customer has to specify the colors, and any color gel coat can be used.



The rear bulkhead is removable so it looks like it will make good fishing boat. The interior is decraguard and can be built as all seating if desired. The boat can also be ordered without any interior so the owner can build their own interior.

I found that the inside of the cabin is a pleasant place to sit and the windows give a good view of the scenery.
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Thanks - Did he mention when they might put this in the water?
 
Chester":1ldl6kec said:
breausaw":1ldl6kec said:
The other puzzling feature is the location of the stern cleats. My stern cleats get a lot of action pulling hung up pots, I would be concerned with chafing along the sides of the boat with recessed forward stern cleats.
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The stern cleats on my C-D 22 are too far back and fenders hung from them just roll around behind the transom. I have made modifications to mount the rear fender whips foreward a bit so the fenders can protect the boat from the dock.
IMO the Marinaut's rear cleats are an improvment.
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If the rear cleat is to be used for just hanging a fender than I would agree it is an improvement; my dock time is limited to lunching and recovering the boat. If you use that cleat for pulling stuck pots, hold a stern anchor (only in addition to a bow anchor in favorable conditions), or pulling anything with a line it make no sense. Granted the stern cleat on the 22 CD is back there and hard to reach, but it’s properly located and attached to a reinforced area that allows full swing. The Marinaut's rear cleats are in a great location for hanging a bumper and not much else.

If someone’s idea of boating means cruising around from marina to marina and staying tied up to docks all the time that’s one thing. If your approach to boating is more utilitarian this aspect of its design needs to be considered.
 
nickyn99":3pdhoha7 said:
Hello again all - Originally I was looking at the 19' Angler then came across theThe Marinaut 215. This vessel seems to be best of both worlds with the removable bulkhead which seems to make it easier to fish and has the comfort of a cruiser (sink, stove). I already know I love fishing and boating so really only want to buy one time and be done with it. I am in Citrus Heights, Ca and would be fishing out of the bay area. I know both boats are going to be great but would really like thoughts on this. If i was to buy the 19' Angler I would buy new old stock or used. Of course with theThe Marinaut 215 it would be new so.
again, thoughts please and safe fishing!!!!
Cheers - Nick
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Nick – first off welcome to the C-Brats. You will not find a greater bunch of boating people (more helpful or knowledgeable than this group).

Take this with a grain of salt because I admit, I am prejudiced. I believe the Marinaut is a better boat than either the 19 or 22 C-Dory because I was involved in the design and building of it. Before you buy either boat, look at both with the standpoint of what and how you intend to use it. Ask questions about both, both here and to the manufacturers of the boats.

As for the Marinaut, it will be at least two months before the first boat is available to the first buyer. Each Marinaut will be custom built for the buyer and we will not take firm orders for another 30 days.

Good luck with either boat you buy. Both are good boats and I am sure you will be happy with any of the C-Doy’s or the Marinaut 215.

I don’t know if you have seen an actual picture of the Marinaut 215 in the water so here is one.
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www.tolandmarine.com
 
Thanks - I wonder with the trailer and motor what the length would be. I only have a bout 25' in my driveway to play with. Will you be posting a price list anytime soon?

Thanks for the info.
 
breausaw,

I would imagine that Dave could build in backing plates and add cleats at the back of the gunnels if you wanted.

Here in NW Washington we have lots of docks, not all of them in marinas. I have been to Anchorage and I have seen that you don't have any marinas there.
 
Dave and crew , that is a pretty [very] cool looking boat ! I hope it works for everybody . We need some folks to step up to the plate and order some new boats . Its been quite some time since there has been something to be excited about .Don't forget the flat spot on the roof for A/C!
Marc
 
Larry H":2e3tphvc said:
breausaw,

I would imagine that Dave could build in backing plates and add cleats at the back of the gunnels if you wanted.

Here in NW Washington we have lots of docks, not all of them in marinas. I have been to Anchorage and I have seen that you don't have any marinas there.
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Actually I was thinking the same, adding a tow cleat If ever I considered this boat. Our next move will be to a larger boat sometime in the next 3 to 4 years. Perhaps by than Dave will be building a vessel to meets our needs.
No, there is no marina in Anchorage but it does have a small boat harbor…sort of. 99.9% of sport saltwater boaters in anchorage pull their beasts down to Whittier (50 miles) or to Seward (120 miles), a few make the trip down to Homer (180 miles or so). Some have slips in these Cities and some leave there boats parked there. I predominantly pull TripleJ down to Whittier and land dock it next to my garage.

Jay
 
patrick and linda":tjf49if7 said:
i have a question regarding the hull construction of the marinaut 215, is it balsa wood core, as the c-dory is?
thanks
pat
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Pat – thanks for the question.

There is not any wood used in the construction of our boat except in the cabin. Those parts with wood are the cabinets which is Decraguard with Teak trim, the same for the overhead shelf and table plus there is a Teak hand rail for the Port side passenger. The cabin door is marine plywood with a vinyl covering on both sides.

The hull is sold fiberglass from 3/8th inch thick to about an inch where we needed it for strength. The floor system in the deck has ¾ inch 8 lb closed cell foam in it with a 1x6 inch fiberglass stiffener down the middle. The other parts of the boat, gunnels, roof, bow, engine well and other areas needing a cored area has ½ inch 8 lb closed cell foam. The transom has 1½ inch 20 lb closed cell foam in it.

Dave dlt.gif
www.tolandmarine.com
 
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