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Surveyor1

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C Dory Year
1998
C Dory Model
22 Cruiser
Vessel Name
Jett
I just paid too much for a ‘98 CD22.
I was looking at YouTube and found this
https://youtu.be/OxuIwrJ-NQo
Should I start sweating bullets?
I’m a new owner and first time poster.
If this horse has been beaten I apologize.
 
Fishing is about right.....all things made by man have issues. The CD22 is really a good boat overall.
 
What makes you think you paid too much? If you are planning to keep the boat then what you paid doesn't really matter...
 
There is a long thread on this boat's repairs. There have been several others which had some substantial core damage, out of thousands of boats.

In this boat the entry of water may've been the screws holding the water that in place. Earlier 22's used "L" brackets and screws into the top layer of the floor to hold the wooden cabinets in place.

Thread of this boat's repairs.

We have felt that two factors. have to be present to have extensive core damage. A point source where water can get into the core, and freezing temperatures where there is expansion and contraction of the ice, and dissects the glass from the balsa and promotes further water intrusion.

95% plus of the boats have no issues. However I do suggest that all owners be proactive, and any penetrations into the core, be sealed off--over drill the screw hole, undercut the balsa, fill with thickened epoxy resin, and then
redial the hole, putting the screw into the epoxy plug, or tab the structures in with fiberglass tabs in place of screws into the core. [/url]
 
The new poster says his boat is a 1998.
Scallywags boat is a 2008.
Thataway are you implying the new poster has bought Scallwags boat ?
The thread makes no sense.
 
san juanderer":2rtsphgr said:
The new poster says his boat is a 1998.
Scallywags boat is a 2008.
Thataway are you implying the new poster has bought Scallwags boat ?
The thread makes no sense.
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The original poster (who just bought a 1998) saw a Youtube about the repair of Scallywag (a 2008). Thataway posted the C-Brats thread detailing the repair of Scallywag and he is concerned that the boat he just bought might have the same problem, though he didn't indicate that he'd found any evidence of a problem. Just a new owner who is just now hearing about core-rot issues with a few C-Dorys, and got worried. That's it in a nutshell.
 
san juanderer":23fy4g3c said:
The new poster says his boat is a 1998.
Scallywags boat is a 2008.
Thataway are you implying the new poster has bought Scallwags boat ?
The thread makes no sense.
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Perhaps I should have spelled it differently for some to comprehend.
The thread makes a lot of sense. Surveyor1 is a new owner, and in researching C Dory boats. He found the video on Scallywag. There is no connection between Scallywag and the boat purchased by Surveyor1. (Other than they are both C Dorys).

I interpret Surveyor1's concerns that any boat, his included) could have water intrusion.. Should he be concerned about core delimitation in the boat he just bought?

The "this boat" refers to the one linked in his initial post to the video; Scallywag. The owner (Brewkid) owns Scallywag has done many videos on the repair of his boat.

A number of other videos which any C Brat will benefit from.. These all show multiple repairs on Scallywag.(the boat).
 
Surveyor1":zb3n7tqn said:
I just paid too much for a ‘98 CD22.
I was looking at YouTube and found this
https://youtu.be/OxuIwrJ-NQo
Should I start sweating bullets?
I’m a new owner and first time poster.
If this horse has been beaten I apologize.
Click to expand...

Surveyor1,
Congratulations on the purchase of your C-Dory and welcome to the group.

I am assuming that a Marine Survey was not performed on your vessel prior to purchase. If so, you can have one done now and lay to rest on the wonder of its current condition. If the survey report comes back that your vessel is 100% sound, you can use the report in the future as a negotiation for the sale price. If the vessel report comes back that you have repair issues to address, that is also a positive because you can make those corrections.

Enjoy your new ride and keep us posted!
 
Thanks all for the response.
Probably a survey would be a good idea. I had one done on a 40’ sundeck trawler and he spent 30% of his time tapping the hull from the outside with a ball peen hammer. That makes sense to me now and when my CD gets out of the shop I’m going to buy a ball peen hammer.
 
You don’t need a ball peen hammer or a survey. My friend has a 1980 with no fiberglass or core issues. Use your boat and in the unlikely event you find a soft spot then get it fixed.

Congrats on the new to you boat. Remember a new one would have been 100k and you now have 44 feet of waterfront!
 
Was the source of the water intrusion ever found? I don't see anything on YouTube or this site.

Karen
 
The last time I spoke with John (Brewkid) he was not positive of the source of the water intrusion. He believed that it may have been the brackets that held the water tank in place. Unfortunately he hasn't posted on this site or youtube in a long time. He also didn't respond to PM the last time I tried to contact him.

Personally, I feel that with the amount of core damage on his boat, there must have been an additional source of water intrusion. Considering the boat is newer (2008), the damage was quite extensive for the source to have been a few screws inside the cabin. This is just my opinion.
 
Thanks, I wouldn't think it was the water tank either. It looked like the logical place would have been that seam between the bulkhead and deck, but what do I know, I'm just a novice C-Dory wannabe-owner :)
 
reeze thaw cycles will accentuate the migration off small amounts of liquid, and it "cascades": gets worse year by year. I don't know if this was an issue here.

As far as 'Sounding' out a laminate: a Phenolic hammer, or plastic screw driver handle works very well. However, I like to also use a moisture meter. The pinless meters from big box hardware stores will give relative moisture and are considerably less expensive that the traditional surveyors moisture meter.
 
What I don't understand is why there is so much seemingly random foam in the berth, and even under the cockpit deck?
 
The foam under the v-berth is for floatation, but it is not required in boats 22 feet long.

The Scallywag c-dory is a 2008, which has a false floor in the cockpit to give a level surface to walk on. I suspect the foam there is to provide support for the false floor. Older boats do not have the false floor. The inside of the cockpit is the top surface of the hull, which is balsa core sandwhiched between the two laminates.
 
ah, thanks you Hammerhead :) Do you know what year they started making it with the false floor?
 
Not for sure, I think it was around 2006
 
I had a 2006 boat with the removable two piece cockpit floor. The way it was molded, with a core, made any support from underneath unnecessary, The inner lip was about 1 1/2" and that sat on the inner bottom of the hull.
 
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