Shrimping on the Canadian side

rogerbum

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So, now that I have a Canadian license, I can shrimp on the Canadian side of the border. Their season is open almost all year and the limits are 200/person/day! Anyone (DUSTY) know of some good spots to do this? I was thinking Pender or Saturna island.
 
Lots of places to shrimp there but you have to watch the rules. If shrimp is open here you can only bring back a U.S. limit. If the season is closed here then you can bring back a Canadian limit. So Saturday you can only have 80 each and Sunday if you run over to Canada you can bring back 200. Last week of June and first week of July we will be shrimping the Canadian side a lot. See you out there.

on edit: I take the back you can have two days work in possession. So you can bring back 400.
 
starcrafttom":1225v5o3 said:
Lots of places to shrimp there but you have to watch the rules. If shrimp is open here you can only bring back a U.S. limit. If the season is closed here then you can bring back a Canadian limit. <stuff clipped>

Tom - I was unaware of that one. Where does it say that in either the U.S. or the Canadian regs?
 
make sure you have the right floats in these areas. new reg. all so check the closed areas. may 1 to may something. all of saachelt inlet and another area north, the canadian site has great maps on line.

Sidney/Cordova Channel Advisory
Use 27 cm diameter (or larger) brightly coloured buoys in Sidney and Cordova Channels, an area bounded on the south by a line from Cowichan Head to D'Arcy shoals to the southernmost point of Sidney Island. The northern boundary extends from a point on the Saanich Peninsula shoreline due east to the light on the north end of James Island, east-northeasterly to the light on the U2 navigation buoy in Sidney Channel, then true east to Sidney Island. Larger buoys are being tested by both commercial and recreational crab fishers in these channels to improve visibility. Larger buoys may be required in all trap fisheries in future
 
you can not Fish for, or harvest fish or shellfish in an area
with catch in your possession that does not meet
the rules of that area. However, you may pass
through such an area without stopping to fish.
Also, you may catch fish in one area and land
them at a port in a different area even if that
different area is closed or has different rules,
except HALIBUT (see page 96). See below for
Canadian-caught fish.

It is lawful to possess Canadian-origin fish or shellfish if you have a Canadian license and
salmon conservation stamp (for salmon ), except it is unlawful to possess Canadian-origin
yelloweye or canary rockfish.
There are special rules for Canadian halibut and salmon . If you only fish in Canada, contact the
Department of Fisheries and Oceans (DFO) or visit their website at www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca for updated
Canadian regulations. If you fish for halibut in Washington, the daily limit is one halibut , and the
possession limit is two halibut , regardless of where they are taken. No more than one daily limit of
halibut may be possessed aboard the fishing vessel.
It is unlawful to possess in marine waters or land into Washington any fresh salmon taken for
personal use from Canadian waters unless such salmon meet current salmon regulations for the
Catch Record Card area where the salmon are landed, unless you physically clear Customs in
Bedwell Harbour, Sydney, Ucluelet, Victoria, or White Rock, and get your Customs clearance number
at the port. If you are in possession of salmon that would be unlawful if taken in Washington, you may
not fish in Washington waters.
You may not land both a Canadian and a Washington limit of salmon on the same day (one or the
other, but not both).

both of these paragraphs are on page 25 of the fish and game regs. So you can go fish over there as long as you check in with customs and get a reporting number. Now it does not address shrimp directly but after reading that you can only posses either a Canadian or us limit but not both, it only follows that the same would be true for shrimp.
 
Tom,

The way I read that is that you can possess your full Canadian limit of shellfish as long as you
1) hold a Canadian license and
2) do not fish in WA waters with the shellfish on board.

The rules for halibut and salmon are specifically called out as different as are the rules for canary and yellow-eye rock fish. Other than that, I think you can land any Canadian limit in WA waters if you possess a Canadian license. At least that's the way I read it. Of course neither you nor I are lawyers and you pretty much need a law degree to understand the WA regs. :lol:
 
roger its not that you or me are lawyers, its that the fish cops are not lawyers and they all see it different. I think you are right but have been told different things by different officers when I have asked them. Never the same answer twice.
 
Well, I AM a lawyer, and I don't understand the regs - I emailed WDFW for clarification on exactly these points, and got a non-responsive mumbo-jumbo response. And the WDFW agents are not real sympathetic dudes, so I guess you pays your money and takes your chances!
 
:? Jeez. I read the "regs" you posted Tom three times and I'm still confused. Reading the posts that followed it appears I'm not alone. I suppose they are purposefully ambiguous, convaluted and confusing.

So what makes a "Canadian" salmon or halibut different than a "Washington" one? Isn't it ALL the same salt water? (Rhetorical questions) :roll: Ridiculous. Perhaps the Canadian salmons like hockey and the U.S. ones, football. :crook

I just talked to a guy at work today who's a big fisherman. He informed me that shrimp "season" is three whole days long every year. Seriously? :? :roll: I don't mean to be 100% totally negative, but THAT is B.S. What's the use? For three days you and perhaps 1,000 other boats are out trying to catch a miniscule amount. I'm not from here, but I don't get it. Back home you want a Mahi Mahi...put your boat in and drag some lures; any time, any day, whenever...ALL YEAR LONG.
 
Mark - the difference is the Canadian salmon say "eh" and the US salmon say "huh"! As far as I know, the crab and shrimp do not carry passports! In Birch Bay we get to crab four days a week two weeks a year, while just across Boundary Bay, crabbing is open virtually all year long. Probably the same crab swimming back and forth across the border...
 
I surely am grateful for our strict regulations up here, with out which we would probably ends up like America.

5 pots per boat, April 15 till Sept 15th, no limit!
Martin
 
Dory-Ling":1gx6vx8v said:
I surely am grateful for our strict regulations up here, with out which we would probably ends up like America.

5 pots per boat, April 15 till Sept 15th, no limit!
Martin

So how do you know if they're Canadian shrimp or Alaskan shrimp? Again, rhetorical; but you get my point. :|
 
Pat Anderson":9kgvprh5 said:
Mark - the difference is the Canadian salmon say "eh" and the US salmon say "huh"! As far as I know, the crab and shrimp do not carry passports! In Birch Bay we get to crab four days a week two weeks a year, while just across Boundary Bay, crabbing is open virtually all year long. Probably the same crab swimming back and forth across the border...

That's my point, Pat. How hard to be on the same page? One set of regs, written by a normal person, which make sense and are understandable...

...oh, crap. I soon as I typed that I remembered I'M A GOV'T EMPLOYEE :x ...ergo, I have multiple daily experiences of why "gov't" and "common sense" don't go together. :P
 
localboy":3uy4ft74 said:
Dory-Ling":3uy4ft74 said:
I surely am grateful for our strict regulations up here, with out which we would probably ends up like America.

5 pots per boat, April 15 till Sept 15th, no limit!
Martin

So how do you know if they're Canadian shrimp or Alaskan shrimp? Again, rhetorical; but you get my point. :|

That one's easy - the Canadian shrimp have good health insurance and access to inexpensive prescriptions.
 
rogerbum":2m3l5zsm said:
localboy":2m3l5zsm said:
Dory-Ling":2m3l5zsm said:
I surely am grateful for our strict regulations up here, with out which we would probably ends up like America.

5 pots per boat, April 15 till Sept 15th, no limit!
Martin

So how do you know if they're Canadian shrimp or Alaskan shrimp? Again, rhetorical; but you get my point. :|

That one's easy - the Canadian shrimp have good health insurance and access to inexpensive prescriptions.

:lol: Yes but they have to wait for hours & hours just to see a doctor and they're armed forces suck. :wink
 
localboy":2bin1amu said:
rogerbum":2bin1amu said:
localboy":2bin1amu said:
Dory-Ling":2bin1amu said:
I surely am grateful for our strict regulations up here, with out which we would probably ends up like America.

5 pots per boat, April 15 till Sept 15th, no limit!
Martin

So how do you know if they're Canadian shrimp or Alaskan shrimp? Again, rhetorical; but you get my point. :|

That one's easy - the Canadian shrimp have good health insurance and access to inexpensive prescriptions.

:lol: Yes but they have to wait for hours & hours just to see a doctor and they're armed forces suck. :wink
Actually they tend to get into emergency rooms faster than we do for acute care. Elective surgeries do require a longer wait though but I digress.... As regards THEIR armed forces, I'll leave those comparisons to others. ;)
 
yeah why spend money on guns when your neighbor covers your a$$ any how?

On a more serious note what military they have has done a great job helping us in Iraq. Talked to a marine that served with them and did patrols with them. nice guys.

But back to SHRIMP. Why our season is so small has a lot to do with the fraudulent way our state counts them. You see they fly over with a plane , count the pots and assume everyone gets a full limit and multiples by the number of pots. Almost as much of a waste of time as the way they count crab. They take the number of crab licenses sold ( they come with the combo licence) and multiply by the allowable limits. So the guy in spokane that crabs once a year gets counted as catching as many crab as the guy that crabs every day. What both these methods have in common is not REALITY.
 
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