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matt_unique
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woodduck":e4lvj2kh said:Just a thought from the peanut gallery for anyone buying a new C Dory or anyone of the boats that Triton is manufacturing. The prospective buyer should assume the so called 5 year warranty will be written in sand on a very windy beach. If they (Triton) can't find sand to write the warranty on they'll use disappearing ink. Just a warning. The company is on very shaky ground.
Agreed.
Any boat buyer these days should assume no warranty on the hull. Hopefully the engine manufacturers will stay in business and honor their warranties to some degree.
C-Brat's is the closest thing you will get to a warranty on a C-Dory - and that is a pretty darn good one under the circumstances.
woodduck":9vqwqbnz said:Just a thought from the peanut gallery for anyone buying a new C Dory or anyone of the boats that Triton is manufacturing. The prospective buyer should assume the so called 5 year warranty will be written in sand on a very windy beach. If they (Triton) can't find sand to write the warranty on they'll use disappearing ink. Just a warning. The company is on very shaky ground.
After reading this statement I could not let it pass without factory input. The Sea Sport saga has definitely been hashed out on this forum in detail and is not "New" news anymore, but I realize the curiosity factor it has brought forth and accept it for what it is. However, to go past idle curiosity and comment about Triton and our standing in the marketplace on a forum such as this, when you do not have reliable information, is nothing more than irresponsible speculation which does nothing to support our or your Cdory product line. We are NOT on anymore shaky ground with the CDory, Skagit Orca or Osprey lines than we were last year at this time, in fact we are in a much stronger position, and to state that our warranty is non-existent is very misleading and unfortunately incorrect. We have, since the purchase of Cdory, taken to heart the ideas and thoughts of the Cbrats website and have found it to be a very resourceful, non-judgemental avenue for idea generation and or comments. As such I would hope that you would want to clarify your statement and/or at the very least offer an apology to all of the hardworking employees at Triton who are working tirelessly to maintain and grow all the product lines under our Triton Banner, in a marketplace that has become ever increasingly difficult to do business in.
Matt Gurnsey
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As the Genmar saga showed, any company can go under in this economy, so it might be prudent for new boat buyers to assume that any brand could go under at any time.
Captains Cat
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Scott, I won't apologize because I don't feel as woodduck does nor, do I think, the vast majority of Brats do. We want Triton/CDory to thrive and be strong and be there for us.
You will note that he only has 50 or so posts, not very many relative to many of us but unfortunately nearly 2X the number of yours. It would go a long way for the factory to participate more heavily in this forum and when a subject like this crops up, jump in and nip it in the bud. I know you're busy building boats, many of us work full time too and still find time for this forum. This is your avocation much more than it is ours!
So put the gun back in the holster please, keep building CDorys and keep posting. The Brats are behind you, at least this Brat is!!
Charlie (3 CDorys so far and probably not done yet, still haven't owned a 19, a 25 or one of the other more esoteric models)
You will note that he only has 50 or so posts, not very many relative to many of us but unfortunately nearly 2X the number of yours. It would go a long way for the factory to participate more heavily in this forum and when a subject like this crops up, jump in and nip it in the bud. I know you're busy building boats, many of us work full time too and still find time for this forum. This is your avocation much more than it is ours!
So put the gun back in the holster please, keep building CDorys and keep posting. The Brats are behind you, at least this Brat is!!
Charlie (3 CDorys so far and probably not done yet, still haven't owned a 19, a 25 or one of the other more esoteric models)
Well written Matt and Charlie and thanks for your input. My intent was not to be critical of Triton Industries or its fine employees and there will be no apology for what I wrote. The past history is a better indication of reality than looking in the crystal ball and prospective buyers should have no illusions going forward. Buyers of new boats from Triton should assume there will be no warranty on any new boat and whittle down the price of the boat accordingly unless Triton or the dealer offers to the buyer (at manufacturer's or dealer's cost) a 5 year completely transferable hull warranty from a reputable insurance company.
Ken aka: wood duck
Ken aka: wood duck
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sjboysen and Charlie;
I was going to include the following in my above statement, but I thought better. And now I think even better again after reading Woodchuck's statement.
For every person who makes a positive statement about C-Dory, there are about 6 (+3) who will chime in with derogatory statements. Woodchuck is the latest. Another person was going to look at a new 2009 C-Dory. A lot of the comments indicated that every C-Dory built after (fill in their year) was gonna sink. Their glass is always not half empty but all empty. I feel we'll have to accept this.
The factory rep (sjboysen) made a statement as to their business. Accept that unless you have evidence to the contrary. And "written in sand" isn't evidence. Charlie, no matter how many posts sjboysen makes, one guy is going to have a derogatory opinion. I guess it's human nature.
Actually Triton is to be commended, they're still in business. I'll believe that until I read , in a newspaper, otherwise. And further, business is picking up. No wonder he's upset about comments that indicate otherwise. A competitor, perhaps? None of us know.
Boris
I was going to include the following in my above statement, but I thought better. And now I think even better again after reading Woodchuck's statement.
For every person who makes a positive statement about C-Dory, there are about 6 (+3) who will chime in with derogatory statements. Woodchuck is the latest. Another person was going to look at a new 2009 C-Dory. A lot of the comments indicated that every C-Dory built after (fill in their year) was gonna sink. Their glass is always not half empty but all empty. I feel we'll have to accept this.
The factory rep (sjboysen) made a statement as to their business. Accept that unless you have evidence to the contrary. And "written in sand" isn't evidence. Charlie, no matter how many posts sjboysen makes, one guy is going to have a derogatory opinion. I guess it's human nature.
Actually Triton is to be commended, they're still in business. I'll believe that until I read , in a newspaper, otherwise. And further, business is picking up. No wonder he's upset about comments that indicate otherwise. A competitor, perhaps? None of us know.
Boris
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Charlie, no matter how many posts sjboysen makes, one guy is going to have a derogatory opinion. I guess it's human nature.
Boris in know that and agree with it. My point was that the factory needs to have more of a presence on the site. I visit TugNuts as often as I do the Brats and, unless I miss my guess, they are selling more boats than they can build. I don't think it's because they build a better boat necessarily but there is a LOT of factory presence there, including Andrew Custis and Jeff Messmer (wish CDory had him back). They answer mail, help the owners personally and by e-mail and sell boats. Lots of boats.
If Triton could do that, I think they'd increase their sales, no matter what the history of the line is. JMHO.
Charlie
Boris in know that and agree with it. My point was that the factory needs to have more of a presence on the site. I visit TugNuts as often as I do the Brats and, unless I miss my guess, they are selling more boats than they can build. I don't think it's because they build a better boat necessarily but there is a LOT of factory presence there, including Andrew Custis and Jeff Messmer (wish CDory had him back). They answer mail, help the owners personally and by e-mail and sell boats. Lots of boats.
If Triton could do that, I think they'd increase their sales, no matter what the history of the line is. JMHO.
Charlie
Scott,
Welcome back. Good to hear positive info from "our" manufacturer. Have to agree, it would be nice to hear from Triton more often, but understand that your guys are busy making boats, and that we like too. Hat's off to the guys in the shop, and the ones that are keeping them there.
Sure wish we could see you all with a new boat at the Sequim Bay State Park CBGT, in a few weekends. Probably not realistic, but maybe someday :thup
Thanks for stopping by, and looking forward to more dialog.
Harvey
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Welcome back. Good to hear positive info from "our" manufacturer. Have to agree, it would be nice to hear from Triton more often, but understand that your guys are busy making boats, and that we like too. Hat's off to the guys in the shop, and the ones that are keeping them there.
Sure wish we could see you all with a new boat at the Sequim Bay State Park CBGT, in a few weekends. Probably not realistic, but maybe someday :thup
Thanks for stopping by, and looking forward to more dialog.
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
sjboysen-Well put. We can't see your' build and deliver schedule and we sure can't see your' financials. Really is not our business to guess at or judge. If you have taken measures that will allow you to survive and maybe even thrive in this economy without taking advantage of the consumer then I say we need to remember to treat Triton with all due respect. I lost my warranty, not because "you" took it though. You don't owe me a thing, unless I buy a boat of your' manufacture. I have full confidence that you plan on staying in business and taking care of owners. I also want to thank you for seeking our in-put from time to time and trying to keep us up to speed with what you have going on.
This site is made up of some highly intelligent people. I'm not one of them, just plain average. I was, however, raised to show respect and respect integrity. At this juncture, you have my respect and my best wishes for a long and prosperous future. That should benefit us all. Make it a great day!
This site is made up of some highly intelligent people. I'm not one of them, just plain average. I was, however, raised to show respect and respect integrity. At this juncture, you have my respect and my best wishes for a long and prosperous future. That should benefit us all. Make it a great day!
My comments regarding C Dory/Triton warranty issues were not meant to be derogatory, defamatory or harmful in any way. Just a casual comment that should have been accompanied with a strong dose of valium. Prior to our 25' Cruiser we owned a 22' C Dory. Our total experience with C Dory boats is 10+ years. My commitment to the brand is strong and even stronger with all CBRATS. We recently considered buying a TomCat that SportCraft Marine in Oregon City has for sale, but decided that we don't boat enough to justify purchasing a TomCat. Anyone considering a TomCat sholuld check out the SportCraft web site. It's loaded and in excellent condition & I don't work for or own SportCraft, so chill out. Our 25 footer will serve us well while we sail off into the sunset.
Best wishes to all boaters and I hope that You enjoyed as fine a boating season that we did this year.
Ken aka wood duck
Best wishes to all boaters and I hope that You enjoyed as fine a boating season that we did this year.
Ken aka wood duck
Sometimes you just wonder about someone posting causal comments. To insinuate someone might go under and leave the customers, suppliers etc holding the bag is irresponsible. I mean what is the real purpose? Some thought needs to given as to how these types of posts effects the C-Brat's image. IMHO it seems like slander. I had issues with in the past with Seasport about warranty when they purchased C-Dory but it was not a boat they built. For me now I try to show support for any kind of American manufacturing. These guys are still building great boats. I applaud their tenacity to keep going in these funky economic times. I would not blame Triton Marine for keeping their posts here to a minimum. I never heard anyone say these folks didn't build good boats no matter what the brand name or that they did not stand behind them. I mean trying to find items to purchase not made in China is getting harder and harder. Remember that song Home Home on the Range something about seldom is heard a discouraging word.
D.D.
D.D.
My only thoughts are that I bought a 2008 C-Dory 25 knowing it had no warranty because I liked the boat and I'm happy. That boat didn't have a warranty but the twin Honda's do and if something else breaks I'll fix it.
Now as to the viability of Triton, I don't know but my measure of a business is usually the people I deal with. I posted on another thread about needing to find a curcuit breaker for my nav lights.
Well, here's my update on the search for a replacement circuit breaker.
I needed a 5 amp BUSS circuit breaker to replace the bad one. I got the part number off of the one I have and started to search the internet for any place that carried them or sold them, all to no avail.
Finally in desperation I called Triton Marine and ended up speaking with Jeff Lindhout. Now, I'm new to this whole C-Dory thing. I bought my boat from a dealer in New Jersey with the full understanding that there was no warranty or support since the manufacturer of that boat had gone out of business. So I didn't really expect much to come from this phone call. Maybe a pointer to a supplier I might try.
Jeff asked if I had photos of the part which I did and he asked me to email them along with the part number info and said he'd see if he could find one.
About 4 and 1/2 hours later I get a return email from Jeff saying he found one and asking where I would like him to send it. I called him back and thanked him and told him I wanted to pay him for the part, his time, etc. He said no, just to remember him when people asked about my boat and who builds them now.
Believe me, I'll be more than happy to compliment him and Triton Marine. What may not be a big deal to some folks, to me is what great customer service is all about and I'm not even a customer. Yet...
Thank you Jeff Lindhout! This midwest boater really appreciates your help...
Now as to the viability of Triton, I don't know but my measure of a business is usually the people I deal with. I posted on another thread about needing to find a curcuit breaker for my nav lights.
Well, here's my update on the search for a replacement circuit breaker.
I needed a 5 amp BUSS circuit breaker to replace the bad one. I got the part number off of the one I have and started to search the internet for any place that carried them or sold them, all to no avail.
Finally in desperation I called Triton Marine and ended up speaking with Jeff Lindhout. Now, I'm new to this whole C-Dory thing. I bought my boat from a dealer in New Jersey with the full understanding that there was no warranty or support since the manufacturer of that boat had gone out of business. So I didn't really expect much to come from this phone call. Maybe a pointer to a supplier I might try.
Jeff asked if I had photos of the part which I did and he asked me to email them along with the part number info and said he'd see if he could find one.
About 4 and 1/2 hours later I get a return email from Jeff saying he found one and asking where I would like him to send it. I called him back and thanked him and told him I wanted to pay him for the part, his time, etc. He said no, just to remember him when people asked about my boat and who builds them now.
Believe me, I'll be more than happy to compliment him and Triton Marine. What may not be a big deal to some folks, to me is what great customer service is all about and I'm not even a customer. Yet...
Thank you Jeff Lindhout! This midwest boater really appreciates your help...
Southlake's post about the Lindhouts is not unique. About the time they first bought the C-Dory assests I dropped a rub rail end piece in the drink. As a last resort I called them in Bellingham.They dug through the boxes of their newly acquired stuff, found one and sent it to me free of charge. I appreciate them and wish them all the best.
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1. New boats may or may not be covered by a warranty, no matter who the manufacturer is.
2. With this in mind anyone buying a new boat would be wise to buy from a builder with a track record for building quality boats.
3. Seasport, now called Triton, has a track record in building quality boats.
Just my opinion.
2. With this in mind anyone buying a new boat would be wise to buy from a builder with a track record for building quality boats.
3. Seasport, now called Triton, has a track record in building quality boats.
Just my opinion.
I got my first C dory a 19 just 2 years ago brand new built by Fluid Marine, they did a great job on my boat very high quality with no squawks since. Being such a simple boat I didn't care that the warranty was gone. I loved the little boat so much I have placed an order for a new 22 by Triton from the same dealer I got the 19. Again the 22 is a simple boat, not much to go haywire and pretty bullet proof. As a sailor, the C dory is the only power boat to ever. I mean ever catch my eye. Except perhaps one of the Nordhavn's. But what I truly appreciate about the C dory is the owners group. We are the envy of the marina when we meet up and take over the docks with our fun and potlucks. Looking forward to much more. George
Enjoy your boats
Enjoy your boats
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Hey George, Congrats on ordering that new 22. I went from a 21 Arima HT to a 22 Cruiser, and I love it.
Bought my boat used from Port Boat House and was very happy with the transaction. Mine is and 08 built in November 07, therefore I think it is a Reynolds C-Dory. The quality of mine is top notch.
I did, at the Victoria floating boat show, see a Triton 22 C-Dory Cruiser, and apart from a few missing pieces it looked like a fine boat.
I am sure you will be happy with it. I agree that beauty of these boats is their simpicity of design and their functionality.
Stefan
Bought my boat used from Port Boat House and was very happy with the transaction. Mine is and 08 built in November 07, therefore I think it is a Reynolds C-Dory. The quality of mine is top notch.
I did, at the Victoria floating boat show, see a Triton 22 C-Dory Cruiser, and apart from a few missing pieces it looked like a fine boat.
I am sure you will be happy with it. I agree that beauty of these boats is their simpicity of design and their functionality.
Stefan