Removing the alcohol stove REPLACING with Wallace

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Hey there! Im Doug. Im pretty stoked to be owning one of these classics, and even more stoked to understand how this web site works!! The 800 D single burner stove made by Wallace , combined with the 220 D Blower lid for safe heating and cooking. I was wondering if anyone else has done one. ?? javascript:emoticon(':)')
 
I did the reverse, replacing a Wallas with an Origo alcohol stove. Now I can fix it myself, instead of shipping it to the factory when the circuit board goes bad (at the worst possible time, thousands of miles from home and it hovering around 32 degrees outside :=)
 
We are newbies and only just replaced our butane canister stove with a 800D with the blower lid on our Tomcat 255. Thus our experience is very limited, but quite positive so far.

We did spend a night on the boat and were quite comfortable, even though the temperature got down to -2 C and the docks were covered with thick frost in the morning. The berth area did run a few degrees cooler than the main cabin, although I suppose a small fan could be used if that was a problem. For us it was fine.

In those conditions we had it running pretty much continuously for a couple of days and it may have used as much as 0.1 l of diesel per hour. The fan does make noise, but it was a steady white noise and didn't bother me, even though I am a very light sleeper. As we wussed out and stayed at a marina for this test, we had shore power and so can't comment on the battery draw.

It does take a long time (10 minutes?) to start up and shutdown, so plan ahead for a cup of coffee and shut it down in advance of arriving home if it goes through your house battery switch as it has to have power for the shutdown.

We were concerned about the many reports of problems with the Wallas stoves, but convinced ourselves that these all seemed to be based on older models, with few reports of problems with the more recent ones. Time will tell.
 
We have had 4 Wallas diesel stoves in 4/5 of our C Dory and never had a problem we could not fix. The current boat came without a stove, and we are using an induction burner.

The Wallas, needs a good 12.8 volts to start--some start their engines to be sure the voltage is up there. When you shut down, shut it down on high.
 
My first Wallas, which was original to the boat in 2000 was never ending trouble. I ended up having to replace it in the first month of a 3 month SE Alaska cruise in 2012 with a new updated model 85. The new one in 2012 hasn’t been exactly trouble free in the last 7 years, but I, like Bob have been able to repair the minor problems on the go, unlike the first one that quit beyond my ability to repair during each of our 2007, 2010 & 2012 SE Alaska extended cruises. I think the Wallas combo heater/cooking stoves are equal or better to the other high priced diesel or kerosene burning electronic controlled alternatives. The combos are all high dollar & complicated.

Doug, I think you will end up being very pleased with it.

Jay
 
I removed and sold our Wallas as it was neither a good stove nor a good heater. Replaced with a dedicated Eberspacher diesel heater and a one burner butane stove. Could take up to 45 minutes to boil water.
 
We replaced our 800d with an electric /alcohol stove works every time .I got tired of hoping /praying to the wallas stove god .In Florida we don’t really need heat ,except a few times a year .So this Canyon elec alcohol stove fit right in with very few modifications happy with it so far Jim
 
Wandering Sagebrush" <snip> We use an EcoFan on the cooler burner to push air into the berth. It works nicely said:
We will probably investigate these as they sound like a great idea. The Wallas manual does have a warning about not running the stove with the cover open unless there is a pot on it, but I imagine this is just a safety thing relating to flesh or something flammable being accidentally placed on the hot surface.
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C_&_C":1aiwm08h said:
Wandering Sagebrush" <snip> We use an EcoFan on the cooler burner to push air into the berth. It works nicely said:
We will probably investigate these as they sound like a great idea. The Wallas manual does have a warning about not running the stove with the cover open unless there is a pot on it, but I imagine this is just a safety thing relating to flesh or something flammable being accidentally placed on the hot surface.
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I don't know why Wallas states that either, but we have also used the Eco Fan. In essence it acts as a heat transfer device, similar to how a pot does...The thermo electric effect drives the electric motor for the slow speed fan. That reminds me that I need to bring the Eco fan to Hontoon for the raffle!
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I’m trying to figure out how to share some pictures of her... i will..

Wallace 800D with the c-dory 22classic

Thanks for your response! This feels like THE MOST USEFULL experience on the World Wide Web😎-to date !!
Seriously.
Is Thru-hull exhaust the norm for these heaters.. or did anyone go up?

I’m standing by with hole saw 🕳
Ha ha
The exhaust port will be down into the panel below the paint.. to get the right vertical recommended..( by Wallace) ..to keep water from entering the heater via the exhaust...

Cheers, to All!!
 
I have the original Wallace on my 2005 boat and in the three years I've owned it I have been happy with it despite it's limitations. It is a nice stove to cook on if you are not in a hurry. For a fast cup of coffee I use a jet boil and I also have a small butane stove that I use in the cockpit, where I cook mostly to keep odor and moisture out of the cabin. I like the Wallace in the morming to warm and dry up the cabin as well as heat my water for breakfast. I also use it with an aluminum dutch oven for baking.

Heating is another story. It's a nice heater, but limited. We have sat out some bad weather and remained comfortable. I use an Ecofan set on the burner instead of the built in fan. It does not use any battery power and is quiet. When things really get moist and cold in the boat, the Wallace is slow to dry things out, especially in the v-berth. I have just bought a Wabatso heater to be installed next spring. I have decided that I need more heat and air circulation than the Wallace can provide and I am planning to install a blower vent into the berth area to dry things out when it's really wet and cold. I am planning to cruise in Alaska in the next few years and want to stay drier and more comfortable.
 
I have had my Wallas (originally installed when boat was new -- 2005), and it has always worked, whenever I turned it on. Admittedly that is not often. It gets turned on high to start, runs there for 15 min then adjust for comfort, then back to high for 15 min before being turned off. Also, always use Kleen Heet --- just cause it works.

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I just took the Wallas out of my new to me boat. It probably came with the boat, a 2006 model C-25. I havenet tried it yet but if anyone is interested, I will see if I can fire it up.
 
Gregarious":20zwgwfi said:
I just took the Wallas out of my new to me boat. It probably came with the boat, a 2006 model C-25. I havenet tried it yet but if anyone is interested, I will see if I can fire it up.
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A used Wallas has real value. There are always C Brats who want to buy one. Be sure that all is hooked up correctly, before trying to start it. The stoves like to have 12.6 or more volts. Scan Marine will check and make sure they are working well.
 
A wallas stove / heater is a lot like a motor sailor. They dont sail or motor well but they do get you there. We installed an alcohol stove and a separate diesel heater. The heater is great and will even dry cloths if you hang them up in front of the out let. Heats cabin up in short order and ALWAYS fires up, which is lot more then I can say for any of the wallas cook top/ heater we have had. The denatured alcohol works great and is easy to find.

We have had nothing but trouble with both of the wallases we has. Complete money pits. Other have not had any trouble. My wife refused to go out in the boat if I did not replace the wallas because you never knew if you were going to be cold or warm. If you were going to have hot food or not. Low teck stove has made her and I very happy.
 
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