Ranger 21 Tug
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Be careful now talking about 21 EC , 25 EC , or 23 CC we all know what happened to CC , after all we are a C-Dory forum? Just like a men only club? An if I would need more room than my 22' C-Dory,that by the way is more room that I will ever need, It would be something like my C-Dory a 26' CC with my feet still below water line just like my C-Dory. My 2 cents
Gary SEARAM
Gary SEARAM
Alyssa Jean
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Whad he say??
Anna Leigh":3lp0zk23 said:
Beats me. But I'm OK talking about any boat but especially ones that are marketed by the C-Dory marine group which includes C-Dories, Skagit Orca and C-Ranger tugs. I'm also OK talking about all kinds of other boats...
Roger on the SeaDNA
(posting away so Pat doesn't call me a SLACKER) :lol:
Ditto, Roger.... I think some ppl are taking this all too seriously.... I mean the jokes and some chat about differing boat models. Of course we don't want to become the soap box for some political idea nor new boat model, but I personally love the occasional irreverant banter, etc.. If we can't laugh and joke and visit about boats, what's the use?
another 2 cents... John
ps, I feel a great appreciation toward all who have posted and shared their questions and expertise and I deeply hope my having ordered a C-Ranger wil not offend anyone here....
Of course, Dusty is the renegade, you know..... he actually piloted a foreign.... C-Ranger ..... vessel!
John
another 2 cents... John
ps, I feel a great appreciation toward all who have posted and shared their questions and expertise and I deeply hope my having ordered a C-Ranger wil not offend anyone here....
Of course, Dusty is the renegade, you know..... he actually piloted a foreign.... C-Ranger ..... vessel!
John
One thing you can say about the C-Dory lineup is that they cover a wide range of models, uses, specialized areas. the extreme shallow draft, economical, easy to tow 22, the roomier 25, the fishing models, the deep v Orcas, inboard and out, the TomCat has it's special niche, the C-Rangers, their special niche.
The 21 EC's economical performance, but deep draft... I think it is alluring, but if I ever were to do a group cruise with C-Dory models, could it keep up.... at about 2/3 their cruising speed? Maybe in rough seas. Maybe the R25 will be able to do that.
My thought is that, right now, I am working, so go for the gusto with the R-25, then trade down later if economics dictate, or maybe even go to a 22 C-Dory for easier single handing and towing as I get older... So, I don't see a major exclusivity to any of the models in their lineup.
Anyway, it seems each model is uniquely suited to some aspect, and maybe not so suited to other aspects of sea use. So, I don't see alot of intermodel conflict, just ppl choosing different models over time to suit their changing needs and wants.
John
The 21 EC's economical performance, but deep draft... I think it is alluring, but if I ever were to do a group cruise with C-Dory models, could it keep up.... at about 2/3 their cruising speed? Maybe in rough seas. Maybe the R25 will be able to do that.
My thought is that, right now, I am working, so go for the gusto with the R-25, then trade down later if economics dictate, or maybe even go to a 22 C-Dory for easier single handing and towing as I get older... So, I don't see a major exclusivity to any of the models in their lineup.
Anyway, it seems each model is uniquely suited to some aspect, and maybe not so suited to other aspects of sea use. So, I don't see alot of intermodel conflict, just ppl choosing different models over time to suit their changing needs and wants.
John
That is my point John, we should accept any type and model of boat on this forum! We all have one thing in common, passion for being on the water, fresh or salt. I for one, think that the Cape Cruiser is a great boat, and who knows one day I might even get my self one of those 26' Cape Cruiser . If I need more room for my two labs and Missy ( my cocker spaniel) . Will I be still welcome here?
Pat Anderson
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Jeez, Mr. Ram - not sure of your point. You will be welcome if you show up in your CC 26, at least welcome by me. As far as I am concerned, you can talk about any boat you want to, as I recall the only rule is "Just be nice"!!!! But actually, we have more in common on this site than just "passion for the water" - MOST of us are here because of interest, ranging from mild to obsessive (OK, that one is me!), with products of the C-Dory Marine Group, which the C-Ranger tugs are and the CCs are not. But hey, talk away!
DodgeRam":3b9e86ms said:
Thank you, Gary. After wallowing in the feel-good posts and visits by friends the last few days, I needed someone to give me a good kick me in the butt. You are not very clear in whatever point you're trying to make, but one would surmise it has to do with a previous thread. I would encourage you to read through that thread again and see if you cannot discern a more realistic take on who and what is welcome on these pages.
Mike
Mike
Byrdman and I had our seatrial yesterday and were both impressed by the little tug . We were running in smooth water on the Intracoastal here in Apalachicola . The boat has a unique character and is very different from the C Dory experience . The little Yanmar has a nice sound to it although the cabin is somewhat resonant . It was nice running around 2600 R.P.M making around 8 M.P.H . The rudder is huge and we were both wondering about the manuverability which turns out to be excellent . The boat is more tender than a dory as it has a rounded hull shape but is not unpleasant .We got a few wakes and the boat plowed straight through them and across them with no problem, although I suspect the boats best use is in fairly calm water.The bow rises with throttle setting somewhat and we found it running flat at 2600. The key concept for this boat is to slow down and enjoy the ride .
Marc
Marc
Neat Boat... OK, several of you have attempted to teach me how to put pictures in a message thread...and I am gaining on it... I think, and may be wrong here....but I think that to be able to insert pictures inside the reply/remarks, you have to be in the "document" thread instead of the general chat...which this link was started. If I am wrong...please forgive me.... and check out the other link any who.... Great boat!
Alyssa Jean
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Wrong. You can post a picture in any reply or post you do. You are gaining on it by the look of your other post about your Ranger 21 trial.
Les Lampman
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Wefings":2oq1ofyr said:
I'd like to share my views as well.
The first run of the CR21 was on a very stormy Friday afternoon here (near Deception Pass). The wind was literally howling and there were whitecaps in Cornet Bay which is farily unusual. The first test was launching and that turned out to be quite easy. I'll add here that retrieving the boat wasn't much of a chore either. I'll also add that I was by my self; strictly a solo operation.
I woud disagree with the assessment that the boat is best used in farily calm conditions. That would belie the boat's desgin hertitage and would run counter to the experience I had with the boat in the above conditons (I've since had the boat out more and confirmed my original impressions). It was quite a mixmaster that day with all the wind, the waves and the currents near the pass. The boat handled these conditions more comfortably than any other boat I've been in of the same size (that's 52 years worth of being on the water). It was far more comfortable than a C-Dory 22 would have been in the same conditions. Notice I didn't say "safer"; I would have been quite willing and unconcerned about running a C-Dory 22 Cruiser in the same conditions...I just wouldn't have been as physically confortable. If you're at 10 mph or below in garbage conditions the CD22 just isn't going to be a comfortable as the CR21; that's the CR21's forte and not the CD22's (the CD22 gets even when the water lays down a bit and can run at higher speeds). Speeds over 7 mph or so give you bow lift (the boat cuts nicely and stays very dry) and lift in the stern resulting in a very stable ride.
I would also assess the C-Ranger 21's tenderness a bit differently. At 5'10" and 200 pounds I find that when stepping directly on to the side deck of each boat that the CR21 reacts a bit more quickly but doesn't drop as far as the CD22 and then just stops; even jumping up and down won't produce more roll. There's a pronounced difference in the two boats when making a trip forward; the CR21 reacts very little and the CD22 rolls quite a lot.
I do agree with the resonance heard in the cabin at speed but I can still carry on a conversation and even listen to the stereo. I wouldn't say that it's "louder" than a CD22 at cruise rpm but there's more a "thrum" element to it. I found I enjoyed 2200 to 2400 rpm quite well; once I got used to the sound of the engine I ran at a steady 3000 rpm. WOT throttle on this boat with 10-gallons of fuel and 2 adults was 3400 rpm.
Anyone worried about maneuvering the C-Ranger 21 because it's a single engine inboard can stop being concerned. It handles amazingly well (and will back to either direction); anyone comfortable with handling a boat will not have much to learn when operating the CR21.
Les Lampman
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