Q about kicker size on 16-angler

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I'm gearing up to keep my 16-angler I do believe. Currently it doesn't has a decent kicker motor. I'm wanting less a trolling motor and more an emergency back-up motor in case the bullet-proof Suzuki 50HP goes out. Q: will a 2hp honda 4-stroke mounted to a fold down mount move a 16 at a snails pace if one found themselves a mile or two from shore? Bonus would be the 2hp is also the dingy power (and easy to store)

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Brenton
 
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I've seen people with 2 horse kickers on their dinghys, and they all (to a person) wanted a larger outboard.

Boris
 
Although the 2 hp will move the boat--I would want at least a 3.5 hp--and preferably 5 to 6 hp. The problem is that 2 hp will not be enough to overcome wind and any wave which you encounter head on.

But in smooth water, a 2 hp should move the boat at 3 mph.
 
Q: will a 2hp honda 4-stroke mounted to a fold down mount move a 16 at a snails pace if one found themselves a mile or two from shore?
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Brenton, Marty and Boris are both right :? The 2HP will move the 16 AT A SNAILS PACE. The important thing is --- is that going to be enough, and are you only going to be 2 miles off shore or less?

I had a 15 Montgomery (sail boat), smaller, and lighter than a 16CD, and probably a ton more efficient hull shape, and used a 3.3 Merc OB for power. It would push the Monty at hull speed, about 6 knots at 70% throttle. Wide open made little difference. Given the much more efficient hull shape and almost 2x the power, I would say yes, you will be at a snails pace, and if conditions are good, (no wind or waves) or excellent,(down wind to go) the Honda 2 would do the job. If my life was going to be relying on it, I'd probably opt for a bit more, (3.5 - 5).

Dr Bob said:
"But in smooth water, a 2 hp should move the boat at 3 mph."
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There are tidal flows in the Straits and Islands of the PNW (and other places too) where 3 knots would still have you going backwards in the current.

Just my humble opinion, and your milage may vary. (JMHO&YMMV).

Harvey
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Fully matched Kicker -- On the job.
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We had a Honda 2 hp for a dingy motor. When we switched dingys I got a Tohatsu/Nissan 3.5 hp. In my opinion the Tohatsu was a much better motor in every way. Much quieter, no centrifugal clutch, more power for slightly more money.
Lyle
 
We are selling our 2hp honda and replaced it with a 3.5hp tohatsu 4 stroke for our dinghy. It is a nicer motor to operate and has a transmission and more power/less noise than the honda all for about 10lbs more weight.

Skip the Honda.

Greg
 
I already have the Honda 2HP (for a square stern canoe I use around here on the small lakes and the bay) I also have an early Honda 10HP (early 90's I'm guessing) one of the first 4-strokes I'm sure. Runs like a top, but it very heavy for a 10HP. I haven't checked due to winter, but the 10 MIGHT fit right in next to the 50HP along the transom. I'm nervous to remove the swing down kicker mount because it's bolted through the boat...a fix currently beyond my skills. I also feel the 10 would be too heavy on that mount. If it was to start pulling out of stern...big problems. I'll give it some more thought. Thanks everyone.
 
MilesandMiles":3n8l5yas said:
I also have an early Honda 10HP (early 90's I'm guessing) one of the first 4-strokes I'm sure. Runs like a top, but it very heavy for a 10HP. I haven't checked due to winter, but the 10 MIGHT fit right in next to the 50HP along the transom.
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Brenton,
When we had our '99 Cruiser we had an 8 HP Honda 4 stroke mounted directly on the transom next to our 50 HP Honda main engine (I don't know if it would work for your 10 HP). We had a connecting rod between the two engines so we could steer from the helm. (There are four pictures of our 16' in our photo album which show the 8 HP).
 
If looking at the Honda 2 look at the Suzuki 2.5- only two pounds heavier but water cooled with a F-N gearcase. Quieter and can push the dinghy along at idle for a lazy afternoon's sojourn.

Sojourn's one of those words we professional writers like to toss out once in awhile. :roll:
 
Matt - for a dinghy, wouldn't you rather have an air cooled motor? No need to flush with fresh, no small water cooling orifices to get clogged. What are your thoughts on this?
 
Matt Gurnsey":13tx71nd said:
If looking at the Honda 2 look at the Suzuki 2.5- only two pounds heavier but water cooled with a F-N gearcase. Quieter and can push the dinghy along at idle for a lazy afternoon's sojourn.

Sojourn's one of those words we professional writers like to toss out once in awhile. :roll:
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Matt, I will second the recommendation for the Suzuki 2.5. I sold my Honda and bought the Suzi for the gear case and the quieter water cooled engine. We use it on the inflatable, and a square-stern canoe. No regrets!

Roger, I think Honda recommends (???) running the 2hp in fresh water after being in salt, but I am not 100% on that.
 
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