Pumped some sh*t yesterday!

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Nan-C

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I never thought pumping sh*t could be so exciting. But solutions to problems are almost always exciting -- especially when they involve a new, high quality tool. So I was pretty excited yesterday when I was standing beside the boat on its trailer at an RV dump station working the handle on our newly-arrived Edson diaphragm pump. In a minute and a few strokes our holding tank was empty. I had so much fun I repeated the process several times until the tank was clean as a whistle.

We have no access to pumpout facilities when we are at home. It has been frustrating to get back from a trip with an empty fuel tank and a full tank of crap. The marina at the lake a few miles from us only allows dock renters to use their slow, crappy, little homemade system. I could have installed a macerator and pumped out through a hose pushed into the discharge fitting, but now I'm glad I didn't. This unit is efficient and sanitary. A BANJO adapter screws into the waste fitting. From that point on all fittngs and hoses are the same as you find on any other proper pumpout. The unit is pricey at over $600 for the kit and coming in at $800 with a storage bag and a couple of extra fittings but very worth it based on quality and the convenience it will afford us for years to come.

I think others in our situation -- and I know most of you are not -- would be impressed with the pump and the people at Edson pump. The kit is #165AL-18-150. The contact person is Peter Burlinson, peter@edsonintl.com. Peter treated our transaction as if it were an important sale, even though I'm sure it was a tiny blip on his radar.

If I were not a computer idiot I would include a picture, but maybe Joe will follow up with one.

Regards to all,

Greg
 
Geez, that pump and the bag cost about the same as a complete Airhead! I still am amazed that people are skeptical. The smelly boat at the dock is NOT Daydream!
 
"A storage bag"??? You really wanna save that stuff? Oh, wait, you mean for the... nevermind.

If that's your idea of fun, you should head for south Texas. I spoke to our friends there today... no power, no water. No way to pump sewage off the island. They're being told " at least 5 days before power is restored, maybe longer." I know how long it takes to get anything done there... I'm guessing longer.

Say, how big is that storage bag? :twisted: If you had fun with a small tank, you will have a riot with this situation.

Best wishes,
Jim
 
Upon reflection, it may be that I overstated the fun factor. :) However, Edson does cite several uses for the pump that could be useful in the aftermath of a hurricane, flooding, etc. I think Edson mentions somewhere that the pump is way faster than a frightened man with a bucket on a sinking boat. I think I'll pass on their suggestion to use it for showers, given the use I have put it to.

Jim -- Really glad your home weathered the hurricane relatively unscathed.

Regards to all,

Greg
 
You guys with the 25's should consider the 29. It's ugly, but you will probably get a good deal and it has that little transom door so you can pee right off the swim platform. Now on the 16..........
 
We have a 25' C-Dory (no macerator pump and currently no access to a marine type pump-out) that I'd like to be able to pump out at RV sani-stations.

What type of connection does the Edson portable pump kit ($ 649 US) come with for connecting to the C-Dory pump-out? and what do you use for discharge hose to an RV sani-station? In addition to the Edson, does anyone have experience with the Todd Waste Caddy http://www.toddusa.com/productdetails.aspx?id=104&f=34 ? West Marine lists the Todd at $ 539 US;

I'm a bit taken aback by the prices - I'd been thinking of putting together a DIY system with hoses, connections, and a Whale sanitation pump, but hadn't priced out this option. Has anyone taken this DIY approach?

Comments much appreciated!

Doug
 
Pat Anderson":1z6bsvwr said:
Geez, that pump and the bag cost about the same as a complete Airhead! I still am amazed that people are skeptical. The smelly boat at the dock is NOT Daydream!
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I like Pat's idea the best. Will that thing fit on the CD22?
 
Hi Doug --

Based on our experience with the Edson, I can highly recommend it. One of my favorite ways to rationalize an expensive purchase is to look at it in terms of cost per year. :) This pump and its accessories will outlast me.

Using it is very easy and very sanitary. An adapter, for the BANJO fitting to attach to, screws into the boat's waste pipe. From that point on, all connections are the same commercial quality, quick-release BANJO fittings found on marine pump-outs. The unit comes with all the hose necessary for both ends of the pump. We use a Rubbermaid tub for storage rather than the soft-sided storage bag.

Regards,

Greg
 
You might consider - you can put a Banjo fitting (or even a regular hose barb) on the output of a Macerator Pump with a ball valve between the fitting and the pump. You can then pump ~ 100' thru a 3/4" hose, into ANY facility that is in reach of the end of the hose. ~ $150, unless you already have the macerator pump.
 
toyman":2x9wb9at said:
You might consider - you can put a Banjo fitting (or even a regular hose barb) on the output of a Macerator Pump with a ball valve between the fitting and the pump. You can then pump ~ 100' thru a 3/4" hose, into ANY facility that is in reach of the end of the hose. ~ $150, unless you already have the macerator pump.
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This is a subject that is near and dear to my heart :mrgreen: as many long-time readers of this website can attest!

I am not sure if I understand your comment correctly, but I have had discussions with Jim and Bob about hooking up a hose to where the macerator pumps out of the hull. The consensus seems to be that there is no satisfactory way to create a leakproof seal between the hose and the hull fitting.

In reference to the Edson that Nan-C uses, I am intrigued with that for use at RV dump stations when I am trailering the boat and using it for a camper. Looking at the photo on the Edson site, I don't see how the device works. It looks like parts that you would have to build a device around. Photos would be greatly appreciated! Maybe this is the answer to my quest -- pump head waste out the pumpout fitting rather than the macerator fitting.

Warren
 
Hi Folks,

There was another thread just this morning, what is best to buy, a 22' or a 25' C-Dory? After reading this thread, the 22' looks much better as a choice. With a porti-potti, you just pick it up, separate the bottom from the top, walk in a Men's Room (We always have to do the dirty work) and dump.

When I had my Vanagon, I also carried with me a piece of hose that fit over a faucet so I could clean the porti-potti after dumping.

A always said that a porti-potti was the best invention since sliced bread.

Fred
 
Referring back to Doug's comments I built a system for a previous sailboat the heart of which was a cheap Beckson diaphram pump. It worked fine.
The Edson is a great pump but definitely (IMHO) overkill for this job. The Whale you suggest is perfect. There's another, very similar, also built for this purpose. (I just wish I'd gotten as much enjoyment out of the whole experience - truly, attitude makes the difference!)
 
On FanC-Dory the poop tank is under the motor-well, just fwd of the transom. The macerator is on the port side, just aft the fuel tank, the macerator output thru hull is on the port side aft corner, and the pump-out fitting is on the aft port side deck. Since I have ~24 gallon poop tank under the poop deck, and realizing that my most probable use will preclude any "overboard' dumping, when I get home the output from the macerator is going to be removed from the thru-hull, and a standard hose bib is going to be fitted to the macerator output. THEN I will use the macerator, with a garden hose, to dump the tank, probably at RV dump stations, but if I get home with a load, I can dump it into my home system. The deck pump-out, used at marina's will not be affected.
 
I agree that the Edson pump is overkill for the job, but ..... I like it. :)

Warren -- I can't do pictures yet -- coming soon. The simple, but high quality, diaphragm pump is mounted on a board as shown. Hose -- leak proof attachments -- between boat and pump and between pump and dump. Handle inserts in pump. Self-primes and tank empties in a few easy strokes. By the time I rinse the holding tank a couple of times, the pump and hoses are clean. Did I mention I like it? :D But it's still what it is: pumping sh*t! But the whole operation is slicker than ****.

Regards to all,

Greg
 
ffheap":3eog8nxa said:
Hi Folks,

There was another thread just this morning, what is best to buy, a 22' or a 25' C-Dory? After reading this thread, the 22' looks much better as a choice. With a porti-potti, you just pick it up, separate the bottom from the top, walk in a Men's Room (We always have to do the dirty work) and dump.

When I had my Vanagon, I also carried with me a piece of hose that fit over a faucet so I could clean the porti-potti after dumping.

A always said that a porti-potti was the best invention since sliced bread.

Fred
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Amen, brother!!!! :!:

On my truck camper, I have this Cassette Toilet http://www.thetford.com/HOME/Products/P ... fault.aspx - a glorified porta potti. While others are waiting to pump, we just dump the portable holding tank in the rest room toilet.

John
Swee Pea
 
Thought I'd toss this option in the mix. We have been using these for years and they are great...particuarly on our 22 and 25 foot boats... and particuarly when it is a bit cold outside...and the urge to purge hits... Let's face it.... these are small boats....and some things are best left outside... and, no plumbing, no hauling them around sloshing...breaking the rules of no dumping porta pots in the heads.... Let your guest put anything they want in them.... it will not clog, you do not have to spray them out, clean them, un-clog them...

You can use a 5 gallon bucket with a seat lid, or, you can get the neat little tri-fold seat. My brother has the tri-fold and loves it. I just have a 5 gallon bucket and seat from Todd.

We all make trash as we travel. These work great...as just another option. The Wagg Bag .

http://www.thepett.com/

Byrdman
 
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