Pain free insulation solution

well, if I had me one of them big frilly foo-foo boats with hot & cold running water instead of a lean mean fishing machine boat I might smell better :)
 
Sea Wolf":17wyke4r said:
Al / Moose installed a hinged fan in the companionway to the v=berth for the same reason. It's a bigger fan, drawing about 2-3 amps, and is another good alternative. It's also quite a bit noisier than the computer fan.
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~~~~ahh likes the "white-noise" of them fans (any fan!) helps a lite-sleeper like me to sleep better anyhow :shock: Anybody ever have a "poobutt" (in this case; otter) swim by at night, makin them hi-pitched squealing-sounds :? it's innerestin but agravatin all the same :o :x .... when they won't go away with anything less than the cannon fire of RedFox's "cannon" ... :o

oops, don't mean ta be messin-up yer "insulation thread" there B~C
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Okay guys here is my report ont he spray on insulation.

We just got back from the Desolation Sound trip and it was a great time.
Before going I sprayed 1 whole gallon of the stuff in the Vberth. I didn't intend to put that much on but my compressor regulator was not working and I only had high pressures.

With two of us sleeping in the vberth and no windows open it was considerably drier than before. Out of 15 nights I probably only felt wetness on the vertical part of the overhead on about 5 mornings. We only had a couple of droplets on one or two mornings. Not as good as I had hoped but much improved. The insulation can be scraped off by moving bags around if you are too rough.

I am thinking about adding a layer of carpeting over the insulation and that should provide a dry vberth.

I have not decided if I want to go to the trouble of spraying the rest of the cabin, I have 2 more gallons, but I would like to do something in the cabin.
 
So whats the bottom line on the insulating paint? I have a 24ft Tom Cat and was trying to figure out a way to reduce moisture as the seasons get a bit cooler here. Would I be better off just gluing carpet to the ceiling and areas of concern? Sounds like it would save $ and time.
Phil
 
Hummm....the bottom line, that's a tough call, would it make it dryer and warmer? yes I do believe so. Would carpet do the same? yes I think so. Would a layer of both keep it even dryer and warmer? Perhaps, but with the percentage of glass area it's only get so cozy. Is it insulation worth it? For me I think so and would do it again, but I like messing with the boat and just can't leave anything alone.
What part of the world do you live in?
 
I am trying to figure out temp and condensation related issues. here in Vermont. The Tom Cat is spacious and I havent had any problem yet. I have cork floooring in my kitchen and I am considering trying that on the exposed interior walls and floor in the boat. It looks great is bendable, soft, sound absorbing can be coated with urethan and would clean easily and insulate. I'll keep you posted as to my decision....
Phil
 
Zydecomo":5yjrdslt said:
Would I be better off just gluing carpet to the ceiling and areas of concern? Sounds like it would save $ and time.
Phil
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I like my carpeting, it has served (throughout the years) quite well... but that was before this new coating (my knowledge of it at least :| ) Marine carpet definitely collects moisture :| After each and every trip (even just a two-day-trip) you need to remove the bedding and anything in-contact with the carpeting, and dry-it-out with a big-ass'd fan in the door-way :!: Great thing is; the carpet does dry very fast (one afternoon if the humidity and temp is not unreasonable)
If I had to do it over again, first I would slather the stuff B~C introduced to the pub, then go over it with carpeting or cedar :love Now; that cork idea never crossed my mind :| I like it :thup but yudnever get it to fit around molded corners... :idea:
 
That sounds wonderful. Talked to the factory and found out:

Paint Sulate (pronounced Paintsalate) costs $11/gal worth of mix. It is not as effective as DeltaTMarine, and is not recommended for a marine application.

They also recommend 5 coats of DeltaT for a thickness of 0.1 in. And do not roll or brush it on. Cheap shipping from Huston.

For what all of the above is worth.

I like the idea of cork, if I can fit it around the corners. They do sell cork underlayment, and I think I'll find out about that.

Boris
 
Rogerbum - We spent 19 nights in the v-berth. We did everything in there! :D

Phil - I do have 2 gals of the paint but I have not decided what I want to do yet. Go to the trouble of spraying the rest of the cabin or just do the carpet. I am thinking of putting carpeting in the vberth for a nice surface and a little more insulation. The paint really did prevent most of the condensation. If I decide to sell it I will post it and I also have the spray gun for the paint.

Steve
 
I just finished 5 days of deer hunting (armed hiking) in Prince William Sound with weather ranging from sunny and calm, to rain, wind, more rain, sun and rain together and temperatures ranging from the mid 20's one night to a high of around 50 degrees one day. Two of us were sleeping in the boat, one in the v-berth and one on the dinette. In the mornings there was some moisture in the v-berth and a trace in the main cabin. We slept with the Wallas heater off, and the door open weather permitting, the windows cracked, and the hatch over the berth cracked. My sleeping bag in the v-berth never got damp or slightest hint of moisture on it that I could detect. There was no moisture buildup around the cushions or anywhere else that I would expect it. My friend in the dinette did get some moisture on the foot of his sleeping bag, but he was tall and had big feet and there were "footprints" on the window.

All and all I would say it passed. I would put on another couple of coats since it seems that more is better but it was definitely worth the time and investment.
 
Now that some of you have had this coating on for close to a year has anyone experienced any problems with it. Is everyone still happy ? I`ll be getting my 22 Cruiser this Spring, has the factory considered making it an option ? Stephen
 
I painted the v-berth and it does do a good job of reducing the condensation. I am not sure I want to go to the trouble of painting the cabin. Just too many cables and stuff to move.

I do have 2gals of the insulation paint and a spray gun that I got from Richard the dealer. Richard went to the trouble to sell me 3gals from a 5gal bucket that he gets. They don't sell in 1gal sizes.

If anyone wants the 2gals and the spray gun I will pass them along for what I paid for them. Just send me an email.

Steve
 
Stephen,

I don't know how the factory is going to price it, but it will probably be worth it. As I understand it, they are going to spray on the MasCoat, and then cover it with gelcoat. They will do a much better job than I did. I think my coating is a little thin, but it still works well.
 
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