Pain free insulation solution

Congratulations on on the pending boat birth, waiting out the gestation must be tuff.
I still like the insulation & am glad I did it.
know the factory and the insulation guy have talked, from what Tp says,it sounds like it may be in the works as an option.
 
I wonder if the factory would be able to do an after market application to just the berth area if you brought in the boat stripped of the cushions.
 
It's been a while since there were any comments...how about an update on how this stuff is performing? We spent the weekend on the boat and temps got down to about 45 at night. No heater, windows and hatch cracked open an inch or so, yada yada...There was a fair amount of condensation in the berth and cabin.

Rick
 
Still performing very well in cool/cold temperatures wit rain and fog. I would do it again and a new or used boat. It's now part of the boat and doesn't show any signs of flaking off or wearing off in any way.
 
no problems to report, but, If I was to do it again.......I'd do it again :)
The treatment does make a noticable difference in the comfort level in the boat. I wish I could quantify the difference so folks would have a better idea if it's worth the effort or not. All I can offer is that it is quieter, the pants are much dryer in the morning and it does warm up and stay warm with the wimpy single burner Wallas. If a person expects it to be warm and dry like their house, they will be disapointed, it's still a small boat containing breathing human beings.
 
Thanks, gents. We're seriously thinking of doing this over the winter...good "cool weather" project.

Rick
 
By the way, I forgot to ask if the factory ever showed any interest in this stuff as an option on new boats? Seems it would be quick and painless for them to apply...only the actual spray time and equipment clean up time.
 
I have a gallon of this that I am not going to use. I like it in the v-berth but just don't want to go to the trouble to spray the cabin.

Steve
 
Anybody else ever consider making some of this stuff? I'm not done with my research yet but, according to the tech. data on the Delta T Marine product site, the basics seem to be that it's an acrylic binder with ceramic micro-balloons mixed in at about 85% solids. That sounds like a consistency similar to sloppy drywall mud to me. Anyway, the ultra-deep-base acrylic paint I can get at Sherwin Williams is nearly all acrylic binder. And I can get ceramic micro-balloons that are used as an epoxy filler. Seems like a reasonable approach to applying a coat of the hollow ceramic insulators to the inside of my hull. I still need to determine the size of micro-balloon to use, but am thinking of giving it a try unless someone out there or perhaps, in here, gives me a heads-up on why not.

If it works, it might be a way to go. Perhaps on the order of $50 to do a Classic or Angler based on cost for material volumes. Delta T Marine wants the user to mix it up prior to application with a drywall mud paddle which I'd use to mix up the materials from 'scratch'.

Ideas?

Thanks,

Tom
 
Steve, I'll shoot ya a PM sometime about that gallon of stuff if ya still have it. I have so many things I'm working on right now I don't know when I'll be ready for the berth spray job. Could be a couple months at the rate I'm going! :lol:
 
I have found a dealer up here in Vancouver BC that carries the Delta T product so I'm strongly considering putting a few coats on Meander.
Any update from those who have gone before? Tips, suggestions or must do's.
Ron
 
wellll, after a few years of field testing, I have no problems to report. The stuff is hanging in there, the paint is still looking good, all is well.

The stuff is pretty easy & controllable to spray, just make sure the hull is clean. Yard out the cushions, cover the counters and do some masking. If I was doing it again, I'd put on a thicker coat...just fer the helluvit
 
Nothing but good things to report on it. The test patch on the garage floor is still hanging in spite of traffic. The Mascoat is now a permanent part of the boat. I'm with B~C and putting it on thicker since thicker is better.

Tom
 
Thanks for the replies guys. I will have to buy 5 gals so I should have lots to go around. Any thoughts on the spray gun?
Ron
 
Ron,

Mascoat sells one (it is only a spray head) that will screw onto a container (I used on old Armorall bottlle). It works OK. I then rented a compressor locally for a source of air. The spray attachment lists the specs for the air compressor.

Tom
 
Do you guys have any idea how much weight you added to your boats by spraying the cabin with this stuff? What's the density of this material once it cures?
 
Maybe about 15 pounds for both V-berth and cabin. I think I am carrying that much in halibut weights.

Tom
 
I still have a gallon of this paint if anyone is interested I will well it at a discount. It works well in the vberth but moving around clothing bags will scrap some off. It does stop the condensation that can drip onto you will sleeping.

Steve
 
Does this stuff have to be sprayed on or can it be rolled or brushed? And kind of prep is involved.
 
Does this stuff have to be sprayed on or can it be rolled or brushed? And kind of prep is involved.
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I found that spraying is the only feasible way to apply the Mascoat, Delta T. I sprayed on 5 coats in the V-berth and 4 coats in the main cabin. I followed that with a good acrylic latex exterior top coat. It was significant work to mask and/or remove a lot of fittings and fixtures and took me about 40-50 man hours total to do the masking, spraying and clean up. Was it worth it? You bet. We just returned from three weeks cruising from Prince Rupert to Vancouver on the inside passage. Temps down to about 10 degrees C. at night, two days of heavy rain, 5 days with some rain and fog, the rest mixed to very nice. We had no, I repeat no condensation problems in the cabin or V-Berth. I can't say for sure it was the Mascoat totally as I also added two portholes in the V-berth and widened the V-berth opening so that airflow was improved. I can say for sure that these modifications greatly improved our comfort on this long trip.
Ron
 
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