Oh Joy! A 12 Volt Adapter for My Macbook!

Pat Anderson

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No big deal to PC people, they can get dirt cheap 12 volt adapters for their notebooks. For us Mac types, though, we suffer with Apple's strange reluctance to provide us a similar amenity. They do sell an "airline" 12 volt adapter, but it has two drawbacks: (A) it doesn't charge the battery, and (2) it is the most expensive 12 volt adapter on the planet.

So, I came across the solution while searching for a third party 12 volt adapter - of which there are several but they too are incredibly expensive. The solution is: build your own.

I was a leg up on this project because I already had an old Targa universal laptop adapter, the kind with a bunch of interchangeable tips - the tips not only are different sizes but evidently also regulate the voltage. A Macbook needs 16.5 volts, so I found the 16.5 volt tip using my digital multimeter (the Targa manual does not say voltages, only what models of computers the various tips are for). This tip has a 5.5 mm plug, so I went to Radio Shack and got a little project box and a 5.5 mm jack. Drilled 5/16ths hole in each end of the project box, and stuck a grommet in the hole for the cord.

Now, the essential part is the magsafe cord with the magnetic tip. But most of us have had a 120 volt power adapted die (I am on my third one now). When the last one died, I decided to harvest the cord just for this project. So I stripped the end of the cord, the center wire gets soldered to the center lug on the jack, and the shielding goes to the outer lug. Close up the project box, plug the Targa tip into the jack, and we are done.

This morning was my first chance to use it, working like a charm! First I checked the voltages on the pins of the Magsafe, which is symmetrical. Pins 1 and 5 are negative, pins 2 and 4 are positive, and the middle pin, 3, is probably the controller for the green/amber LED light. Got 16.5 volts with the multimeter right where they were supposed to be, plugged 'er into the Macbook and she has charged the battery right up to 100% and is powering this session!

A small thing, perhaps, but being able to run the Macbook directly on 12 volts on the boat is a big thing to me, now tethered to my iPhone and powered by my homemade 12 volt adapter, I am good to go!
 
Wait a minute. You actually built something electrical and it didn't explode OR catch on fire! Man, Pat... You've come a long way since the lug nut debacle. :shock:

Just kidding my friend, of course. BTW, Russ and Toni left this AM to go to her bros house in NC to get kayaks they left there and thence to Toni's family home in Oregon (I think). See their pix on my FB post. He had a MacBook and I think I may get one for Sally. Probably the "air" version.

Charlie
 
Pat,

I have a Targus "Mobile Laptop Charger" (Model APD80-US) that I used on my previous DELL laptop. (The changeable tips for the DELL (L109) and a U300 (for a Motorola Razor cellphone).

My problem is that I now have a Toshiba laptop that uses a slightly smaller plug but I don't know the exact size or part number and Toshiba/Targus folks weren't much help.

If you have an assortment of Targus plug adapters or the instruction manual, does it say which one might work for a Toshiba laptop? I don't recall if my charger came with an assortment of adapters, but if i can find the proper one, I can probably buy it from Targus.

I agree with Charlie. You are Quickly outgrowing your lugnut reputation. Just what the world needs - an attorney who can Actually FIX stuff!

Son - there's work for you in Washington!!!!!

Thx,
Casey
 
Aurelia":kee9gd2e said:
You must have been feeling a little like this guy.

That was funny! Couple of words the kids shouldn't hear but they were well placed and correctly used. Until now, I always thought the iTunes crashes were Windows' fault. Guess not, because I can trick it into working with my iPhone and PC.
 
Yes, Pat. that is pretty creative.

Do you mind if I ask why a $20 inverter wouldn't have worked using your standard old 120vac Mac plugin? I have a 250w inverter on all the time when I'm in my boat. It runs the aft video camera which is on most the time and the TV, DVD, cell phone chargers, and knife sharpener when needed. It doesn't tax the batteries much at all being on with a small or no load.
 
I'll check on that when I get back home, Casey, and send you a PM. You are welcome to all the other tips, since I no longer have any use for them!

Casey":s87wc0yd said:
Pat,

I have a Targus "Mobile Laptop Charger" (Model APD80-US) that I used on my previous DELL laptop. (The changeable tips for the DELL (L109) and a U300 (for a Motorola Razor cellphone).

My problem is that I now have a Toshiba laptop that uses a slightly smaller plug but I don't know the exact size or part number and Toshiba/Targus folks weren't much help.

If you have an assortment of Targus plug adapters or the instruction manual, does it say which one might work for a Toshiba laptop? I don't recall if my charger came with an assortment of adapters, but if i can find the proper one, I can probably buy it from Targus.

I agree with Charlie. You are Quickly outgrowing your lugnut reputation. Just what the world needs - an attorney who can Actually FIX stuff!

Son - there's work for you in Washington!!!!!

Thx,
Casey
 
My inverter (my old one anyway) had a pretty noisy fan, and there is some extra power inefficiency going on when you take 12 volts up to 120 and then back down to 16.5. It was mainly that it was just annoying though.

TyBoo":1n8liz67 said:
Yes, Pat. that is pretty creative.

Do you mind if I ask why a $20 inverter wouldn't have worked using your standard old 120vac Mac plugin? I have a 250w inverter on all the time when I'm in my boat. It runs the aft video camera which is on most the time and the TV, DVD, cell phone chargers, and knife sharpener when needed. It doesn't tax the batteries much at all being on with a small or no load.
 
Funny but completely the wrong way around these days! OS X lockups - zero! XP lockups too numerous to count! I know this is heresy, but I do kind of like W7, it is starting to catch up with OS X, and I actually run it on my Macbook in a Bootcamp partition.

Aurelia":3hsjfxom said:
Nice work Pat and I like a person who can solve an electrical puzzle. Just too bad there was a puzzle in this case. You must have been feeling a little like this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWxC8ezE4Dk
 
TyBoo":2v5flxpd said:
Yes, Pat. that is pretty creative.

Do you mind if I ask why a $20 inverter wouldn't have worked using your standard old 120vac Mac plugin? I have a 250w inverter on all the time when I'm in my boat. It runs the aft video camera which is on most the time and the TV, DVD, cell phone chargers, and knife sharpener when needed. It doesn't tax the batteries much at all being on with a small or no load.

Yep... that's what we've been doing for years.
 
Brent - that link leads to a 120 volt wall charger, not a 12 volt socket charger...the 12 volt universal laptop chargers are a bit more, more like this. I would be delighted to find a $5 12 volt charger, I would start begging harvested Magsafe cords and go into business!

BrentB":1ugooxvd said:
No big deal to PC people, they can get dirt cheap 12 volt adapters for their notebooks.

Kensington Netbook Wall Charger Pack

$5 + free shipping


It includes tips for various netbook models and a USB port for other devices.


http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone- ... fPY2cX_M91
 
I was looking into building a 12V adapter for my MacBook Pro a while back, but it turns out I seldom charge it from 12V, so using an inverter is no big deal for me.

I did find the information below from a guy who did some measurements of the charging behavior of Apple's Mag Safe supply (the 85W adapter is for the newer MacBook Pros):

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Charging strategy for Apple's MagSafe adapters

65 W adapter

As far as I know, the 65 W adapter simply runs at 16.5 V at all times that the computer is connected.


85 W adapter

The 85 W adapter varies its voltage depending on its load. At maximum load—say, when charging a discharged battery—it supplies up to 18.5 V. At minimum load, it supplies 16.1 V to 16.5 V.

I monitored a charge-up from a battery at 37% to 100% with the screen at full brightness, a low CPU load, and the 802.11g turned on. Below 70% charge, the Apple adapter supplied between 17.0 V and 18.1 V. At 71% charge, the Apple adapter abruptly dropped down to 16.5 V. For the rest of the charging time, the voltage ranged from 16.1 V to 16.4 V.

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It's from: http://pangea.stanford.edu/~schmitt/magsafe/#charging

if you're interested in learning more details.

-Jeff
 
Pat Anderson":3cm94ix1 said:
Brent - that link leads to a 120 volt wall charger, not a 12 volt socket charger...the 12 volt universal laptop chargers are a bit more, more like this. I would be delighted to find a $5 12 volt charger, I would start begging harvested Magsafe cords and go into business!

BrentB":3cm94ix1 said:
No big deal to PC people, they can get dirt cheap 12 volt adapters for their notebooks.

Kensington Netbook Wall Charger Pack

$5 + free shipping


It includes tips for various netbook models and a USB port for other devices.


http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone- ... fPY2cX_M91

Yes you are correct. I looked for a 12V charger deal but only found the above one.
 
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