New TomCat 25

Hi, Bob

Good news on the compressor. What are you doing for tank holders while the compressor runs? Are the tanks in a water bath to keep fill temps. lower? Lets see some pix of the fill process.

We plan to attend the Sacramento/Delta Bay Cruise in May. How about coming up I-5 to Rio Vista and cruise with us. We had a great time last year.

Keep us posted on anything you hear from EZ Loader or the factory on the trailer fixes.

Brent and Dixie
 
Thanks for the replies. I feel like I'm in a family. Makes my choice of a C-Dory seem even more appropriate.

Bob Cat, thanks for the information. Since they have done it before, I may be able to get a flybridge from the factory. That would be the ultimate.

E=tecs are definitely my choice of power. Lighter and just a fuel efficient as the four stokes.

I think they are going to have a "hit" with the Tomcat. I have been looking for a cat with a pilot house for a while. Considering the outstanding reputation of the company, they will keep this mold busy. Can't wait to get mine!
 
Hi, Brent

Since the compressor cover needs to be open anyway, the technician wants to run the fill whip directly from the compressor outlet rather than running to a manifold somewhere else.

No water tank. Too much weight. I'll lay 2 tanks side by side or bungie them in a vertical bracket. The fill rate is slow enough to not be real hot, and I can top off. I'll be able to fill to 3500 on my steels.

The technician is also installing a collector/accumlator to trap the residue from the moisture venting. I'll empty it manually at the end of the day, so no oily stuff in the bilge or water.

Bob Cat
 
OK... Here goes... I need to say this...

Yep, great boat once in the water for sure... OK, Bob... you are giving me flash backs on the trailer... Brent... you and I and other TC owners have been down this road before...

Yep, with the electric stuff... you are going to have to move it "up the pole"
Yep, more work to be done on the trailer... I know Jeff at C-Dory and Tim Egan at EZ-Loader have heard most of these issues before, and have been given some of the solutions before by Brent, some others and myself.

EZ-Loader & Factory, Current and Future owners... some thoughts, ideas, and experiences from me.... Feel free to go to another link if you don't have a minute or two....but we need to have this talk with what is now taking place for one of the newer, what appears to be one of the great future boats of C-Dory.... Go get a cup of coffee, pop a top, or pour ya another one.... and take this in. If you do not have time to read it now... print it off and take it with you the next time you go to the head for a little quality time... :embarrased


Put the goal post up front like Brent had set up on his previous trailers. It worked.... what is there now did not work on the 24s, and will not work on the TC255s...

Now just how much would be needed to move the tires out on the trailer and allow the boat to "settle" between the tires... WIDE LOAD signs would be needed, as they are with the larger Sea Ray boats that are "trailerable" as this HEAVY boat is. And.... we could lower the overall vertical clearance about 18" leaving the trailer high enough off the ground for those weird angles we always hit pulling into and out of parking areas of stores, hotels, and other places during a journey.

Yes, two axles may work, but is not a 9,000 # rig really getting close to the 3 axles "needs" if not a requirement? Would it not allow for better distribution of weight, and allow for better tongue weight numbers once each of these boats are rigged the way each new owner wants them?

After on the trailer, the forward 4 to 6 ' of sponsons are not really supporting any of the "real weight" of this boat. When launching and the vessel is departing the trailer, and, when the first few feet of contact when loading the trailer is happening.... rollers may work better forward rather than bunks. So....with it looking like wind, water current, depth of water are effecting our launches and recoveries of the TomCats on most of the times we go thru this drill as we truly travel and take advantage of these "Trailerable Trawlers..." .... I think we need this. A stowable 6' tongue extension that we can mount between our tow vehicles and the vessels trailer tongue as to allow the rig and trailer far enough into the water as to better allow the boat to float off or on the trailer. This part could be mounted and dismounted quickly from off the top surface of the trailer, mounted between the area between the sponsons, once the vessel is on or off the trailer...not during launch and retrieval. When launching our TomCats, we have the need to roll that last 4 to 6 feet of boat off the trailer as the stern and aft section of the boat floats off in the deeper water...but not enough water yet to totally float the boat off the trailer. The reverse of this is true when retrieving the boat. Unless no wind, no current, and you have a nice deep ramp with a dock running beside it to allow a person in the truck to pull forward, and a person on the dock to walk forward with the boat as it falls down onto the trailer (did happen one time to me...but I can not get that dock and ramp to travel with me)... you really need to "roll" the first 4 to 6 feet of this vessel onto the trailer, hook the nose up, then pull forward and allow the boat to fall down onto the trailer..with a second person on the bank with a long rope attached to the rear cleat on the up wind or up current side of the boat....to keep it straight as it falls onto the trailer as the truck pulls out. This would also greatly help the longevity of bottom paint rather than the real heavy drag when using the wench to get the boat back up and snuggled forward. Why would about 4 rollers on each forward side of the trailer, spaced about 12 to 14" apart, that are about 16" wide as to allow the forward edge and footage of the sponsons to roll over, rather than push thru the current split forward boards ? These set of 4 rollers could also be mounted on a "swivel" as to allow for even more flexibility during the process....just like the aft sections of roller trailers. Then, have a flat board with "V" shape, shaped sides (a custom cradle if you will for the sponsons) like the bottom of the sponsons....carpeted, with holes drilled into it as to let the water drain out once the boat does land on the trailer....

Just my thoughts as having loaded a TomCat on several different ramps, different wind and current conditions... and... looking at all the different trailer set ups as I travel....and watch bigger heavier boats being put onto and off of trailers.....not using tow motors....or lifts.... but, the trailers and tow vehicles that travel America with the boats..... When paying what is needed for a new TC255, the buyers realize we will be spending some real coin on a real "custom trailer..." The price of the trailer is up there already...and.... I still think with just a bit more work... we will have a truly custom trailer. We are not talking about throwing away what we have learned (but we do need to recall some of it...), but just some adjustments to the advances we have made.

We have a great boat here.... now we need a bit more work and time to have the great trailer to go with it...as to allow us to own great rigs. :beer :thup
 
[color=Dark Red]Thanks guys for all the good thoughts on the trailer issue. We are rethinking going ahead with our EZ Loader until it's resolved.

While in Oregon City OR today, picking up a Dinghy OB, I was surprised to find the dealer and a TC255 in stock. It's almost rigged, no buyer at this time, Blue trim. If you have $$ burning a hole in your pocket, contact SportCraft marina. 503-656-6484. No waiting! They're just East of Portland. Oregon has no sales tax... :lol:

Roger, waiting for Dreamer[/color]
 
Dreamer Roger & other future out of state buyers: Interesting note on the zero sales tax. In my home state, I was in a hurry after waiting 30+ minutes in the line to get my original AL hull numbers and annual sticker. The annual sticker is not but about $17 a year, no matter the size or value of the vessel. But, as for the sales tax you pay sales taxes of 3.5% on what ever is on the sales invoice.... I did think far enough ahead to have all the cruise package items posted on a separate invoice, hence, avoiding the sales tax... The lady at the counter asked in sort of a quick, sharp manner.... Mr. Byrd...are you sure this is the invoice you want to use for your taxes... I as politely as I could answered "Yes Mam".... with of course the 30+ minute wait I had just experienced...and was enroute to the marina with my rig in the parking lot.... She asked the question again..... Worded just a bit different, but sharper and quicker..." Mr. Byrd... are you sure this is the invoice you want to use for your new boat, new motor(s) and new trailer to pay your sales tax on?"..... At this time...even more focused on simply holding my tongue and trying to be polite, I answered a bit quicker, and a bit sharper..... YES MAM... Well, about 20 minutes down the road on the interstate.... It hit me.... I could have had an invoice for the base boat and one motor only, and put the second 90hp motor, the trailer, and ALL items that were not original equipment on a second invoice..... and avoided paying sales tax on that invoice..... So add that up.... and I just gave away about $800 for not listening properly….and thinking the lady was just having a bad day….and keeping me longer from the water… OK...another lesson from both of my parents range out in my brain......SLOW DOWN SON !!! Could be why I now really just enjoy trolling along at about 6-8 knots.... Some of us just learn a bit slower... :smiled

To new boats and lower taxes :beer :beer Here Here!!
 
Well, look at it this way, Patrick...I am sure the great state of Alabama has revenue issues just like everywhere else, and you simply did your civic duty to help defray those issues... :roll:
 
The Party is on!

Dive Cat Open House and Christening on March 4 at either Burton Chase Park in Marina Del Rey or the Party Room in Bellport Marina, A Basin, Marina Del Rey at 1:00 pm til . . . . Hot dogs, potatoe salad and beer. Come join friends, members of our local CG Auxiliary Division and others.

Harbor excursions and runs outside the breakwater. Check back for exact location.

Bob Cat
 
Yo Bob Cat !! Maybe I kin talk Fishtales into making yer March 4 deal... we both would like to visit anyway....
I don't know about your compressor, but I have a Bayer compressor...3.5 cfm at 3000psi. sea level. (Honda 5.5hp)... and I have to run my drains every 15 minutes of opperation...not alot of water....but I would NEVER go more than a hour of operation without draining...you will also need to service your filters every 60 hours of operation.... probably just a sponge under the drain is fine...I usually get about a Tea spoon full per 15 minutes....possibly a bit more in a marine enviroment.

Joel
SEA3PO
 
Hey, SEA3PO

C'mon down!

Mine is a 9 CFM MaxAir with auto-drain and I plan on 4-6 fills per 1.5 hours. The collector will be attached to the inside of the compressor cover. Neat. Clean.

Drag Rana Verdi up from the south.

I've ordered ABSteak hot dogs, rated #1 in the US to go along with the Cosco potatoe salad. Nothing like Byrdman's BBQ, but we'll suffer in silence.

Bob Cat
 
Boris, CADiver and Merv,

Hope you got the invite: 4 March, 1 pm, MDR. Check back for details tomorrow or Tuesday. Gourmet hot dogs (really) and Costco potato salad will leave not educated palate untainted!

Bob Cat
 
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No way in the world can I make this Bob.
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Leaving for MD and NJ on Sunday, 5Mar for the season.
 
Bob,

You can count Fishtales in. I'll do a drive by and pick up Sea3po.
Man, I got to get out before the bug season is over on the 22nd. This weekend is now booked with two boat christenings. That leaves two weekends to get bugs.
 
Bob,

Wouda' love to help you christen, but got a family affair in Irvine that day.
Congratulations! You certainly waited long enough. Good things are worth waiting for.
 
OPEN HOUSE will be at Burton Chase Park, at the end of Mindinao, which enters the marina off of Lincoln Blvd.

Marina Del Rey. 1:00 pm. Hot Dogs, potato salad, beer.

Questions? 310.968.0707

Bob Cat
 
Hey Bob Cat..... it looked like to me that you had an "Interphase" instrument display cover on your dash on one of the factory pics. Did you get a Twin Scope? ...or Probe? .... or Scout? ....or just some other Interphase device?

If it was the twin scope, how did you mount the transducer? Did you use twin transducers? ... or the single transom?

Thanks for all your informational posts! John
 
Hi, John

It's a Twinscope. Each transducer is mounted through the hull on the outboard bottoms of the sponsons about 18" forward of the transom. They are well clear of the trailer bunks.

Les at EQ mounted the system after he had seen the whole trailer/boat assembly.

The boat is at the shop until tomorrow. I'll take pictures and post.

Bob Cat
 
Thanks for the info, Bob.... I had an Interphase Probe on my old houseboat and I loved the freedom to explore and also to follow river channels, etc.. In one particularly bad storm, the Probe guided me back to safe waters by following the old river channels. I am thinking about putting one on my new boat this fall. I am not certain which transducer setup one would need for the C-Ranger R25. the transom model would be out, but the twin mount like you are getting seems like the one I might need. The info sheet says they must be mounted on trawler hulls with less than 1 degree between them - a statement which is confusing me as to which model the C-Ranger would need. I am guessing the hull is similar to a trawler forward. John
 
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