New proposed knife ban
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Simplicity
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It wouldn't surprise me.When we were in Scotland a local was telling us about the surge in knife fighting in Glasgow.I was about to make a facetious comment about banning knives to solve the problem when he said they were about to ban many types of knives.Believe it or not in New York City they made Aluminum baseball bats illegal to "prevent" crime.I'm sure it's likely the criminals will follow these laws as they do the others.
starcrafttom
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Swords have fixed blades and can not be concealed with make them legal. I have several so when the come for my guns I have a back up. Some where I have a pic of me in full armor with my sword but can not find it yet.
All kidding aside, I don't know a fireman, cop or marine that does not carry one of the knives they are talking about. no function of the design of these or any knives cause people to use then to kill. Just like guns, its people that kill people not tools.
All kidding aside, I don't know a fireman, cop or marine that does not carry one of the knives they are talking about. no function of the design of these or any knives cause people to use then to kill. Just like guns, its people that kill people not tools.
starcrafttom":2egs2vx8 said:
Doesn't matter...as with so many things us po' common folk can't have, there will be exemptions for military and LEO's should this utter nonsense come to pass. In fact, such exemptions already exist for automatic knives (switchblades) - I used to sell knives on the side, and could freely order/sell automatic knives in CA for such folks. EMT's and firemen are also allowed to have them in CA.
While it amazes me that Federal/state laws exist effectively banning autos, truth is, they've fallen out of fashion even for those who can still get them. Many of the latest locking mechanisms can be opened one-handed, faster than an auto - and they are a far simpler design, less prone to close accidentally. Becnhmade's AXIS lock is one such excellent design.
Speaking of which, if anyone wants to pick up a fantastic knife while sending a few bucks towards this fight Doug Ritter is spearheading, his RSK folders can't be beat for the money. He co-designed them with Benchmade, and part of the sale proceeds go towards causes such as this. The RSK's comes in two sizes - the full size RSK is pretty small, but I find the even smaller Mini RSK perfect for every day tasks.
Details on these great knives are available at his site.
kennharriet
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I favor the AK gun laws where you can carry a concealed, unregistered, handgun, anytime, anywhere, without a permit. Only exceptions are in court or behind airport security. This makes the kind of knife or baseball bat someone carries a mute point.
I have an "illegal" Kershaw in my pocket now...had it in the pocket when customs came aboard two days ago...Thanks for the Heads up!
A lot of these good easy opening knives are made right here in the USA! In fact in my opinion the best are made here. Agree with the comments about Doug Ritter's knives and work! Equipt to survive.
A lot of these good easy opening knives are made right here in the USA! In fact in my opinion the best are made here. Agree with the comments about Doug Ritter's knives and work! Equipt to survive.
Da Nag":1283hr92 said:
My Benchmade with the AXIS mechanism is undoubtably the safest, best designed and built knife I have. Unless I'm forced to use it in self defense the knife is not a threat to anyone.
Love your country, fear your government.
The erosion of freedoms is nothing new. Let's hope that things can be kept in check. The more one understands history the more one realizes it (whatever 'it' is) can happen here.
starcrafttom
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Art they can't band smokes or cars. The government makes more off a pack of smoke or a gallon of gas then folks that make the gas and smokes.
For ease of opening, I really like the "wave" feature found on Emerson knives and now on some Spyderco models. It is a small hook-like protrusion on the back of the blade and when it is drawn from its clipped-on pocket position the hook snags the edge of the pocket and opens instantly on the draw. There are some interesting videos of the system on YouTube.
I help teach a defensive knife class at our local Sheriff's Office and in a drill that we teach, I can draw the knife and break a balloon in less than a second, while most of the deputies take from 5-12 seconds to do so. Many now carry a "wave" equipped knife. I carry an Emerson model and Marcia carries one by Spyderco. Both blades are less than 3" so they are legal almost everywhere. At least for now.
Nick
"Valkyrie"
I help teach a defensive knife class at our local Sheriff's Office and in a drill that we teach, I can draw the knife and break a balloon in less than a second, while most of the deputies take from 5-12 seconds to do so. Many now carry a "wave" equipped knife. I carry an Emerson model and Marcia carries one by Spyderco. Both blades are less than 3" so they are legal almost everywhere. At least for now.
Nick
"Valkyrie"
starcrafttom
Active member
Nick I just watched the videos on the emerson site but still dont see the way the knife opens. I have had a knife all my life on one type or another. I like the one handed openers but a long time ago I had a butterfly knife. I think the new knives open far faster then my old butterfly.
Tom,
Let me try again. When the knife is clipped in the pocket, the tip of the blade is carried in the up position. The "hook" that I spoke of is on the top edge/spine of the blade near the "hinge" and the thumb opening device. Drawing from the pocket, the knife is grasped and pressure is exerted so that the "hook" catches the edge of the pocket. Upon doing so, the blade rotates into an open position and locks in place. Very slick, but I have worked with mine, "tuned" and lubed it so much that it often opens when simply being removed from my pocket at the end of the day. Care must be taken!
Warren,
I carry the MCQC7 that you mentioned every day, but mine has the Tanto blade.
Great source (read good selection, reasonable price and good service) for edged weapons and flashlights is the New Graham Knife Co (www.newgraham.com) is Bluefield, WV. I had bought from them on-line and we stopped there on a trip to SC (they're 20 minutes off I-77) and were impressed. We also went away with less money. You can get a wave-equipped Spyderco Delica, either plain or edge or serrated for about $65.
Nick
"Valkyrie"
Let me try again. When the knife is clipped in the pocket, the tip of the blade is carried in the up position. The "hook" that I spoke of is on the top edge/spine of the blade near the "hinge" and the thumb opening device. Drawing from the pocket, the knife is grasped and pressure is exerted so that the "hook" catches the edge of the pocket. Upon doing so, the blade rotates into an open position and locks in place. Very slick, but I have worked with mine, "tuned" and lubed it so much that it often opens when simply being removed from my pocket at the end of the day. Care must be taken!
Warren,
I carry the MCQC7 that you mentioned every day, but mine has the Tanto blade.
Great source (read good selection, reasonable price and good service) for edged weapons and flashlights is the New Graham Knife Co (www.newgraham.com) is Bluefield, WV. I had bought from them on-line and we stopped there on a trip to SC (they're 20 minutes off I-77) and were impressed. We also went away with less money. You can get a wave-equipped Spyderco Delica, either plain or edge or serrated for about $65.
Nick
"Valkyrie"
Nick, in thinking further about the wave feature, I would be concerned about cutting my pockets to shreds!
I am not really looking for a self-defense knife as thus far in life I have generally managed to avoid putting myself in harm's way. I did have a concealed carry permit in Utah and found myself leaving the pistol in the safe more often than not. And I have felt even less need for one here in WA.
So even though I like the knife I don't think it would get much use other than opening packages, and I am not sure I would know how to use it in a self-defense capacity anyway -- and I don't feel a need to learn.
Color me Pollyanna if you wish...
Warren
I am not really looking for a self-defense knife as thus far in life I have generally managed to avoid putting myself in harm's way. I did have a concealed carry permit in Utah and found myself leaving the pistol in the safe more often than not. And I have felt even less need for one here in WA.
So even though I like the knife I don't think it would get much use other than opening packages, and I am not sure I would know how to use it in a self-defense capacity anyway -- and I don't feel a need to learn.
Color me Pollyanna if you wish...
Warren
starcrafttom
Active member
nick, ok that did it for me . I got the idea and understand why you really can't see it happen. I was forwarding the tape one frame at a time and could not see the knife open. One frame its in the pocket the next frame it open. nice feature if you have the other hand full. Of course a fixed blade is better all the way around.
I have a question for you knife people.
I am looking for a good fixed blade knife that can be sharpened very sharp. Not what most of you call sharp, but real real sharp.
When I was in Germany in the early 60’s, I bought a hunting knife that I could sharpen to the point, that it was sharper than a straight razor. You could take a roll of toilet paper, unroll a couple of feet and starting at the bottom of that part hanging down, start slicing pieces of it off without the slightest tear in the toilet paper. Every cut was clean and smooth.
I lost it about 20 years ago on a hunting trip and have looked for something to replace it with since then.
The Doug Ritter RSK Mk3 fixed blade looks pretty good but I would hate to spend $165 and find it will not sharpen to the point I want, or it will not hold an edge. Thanks for the link, Bill.
I have bought several $100+ knives and have been disappointed in them. None have matched my old knife that I lost. I want a thin strong blade that can be sharpened very sharp and will hold an edge. It doesn’t have to cut nails but it must hold an edge with normal use.
What are some of the knives I should look at?
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Dave
I am looking for a good fixed blade knife that can be sharpened very sharp. Not what most of you call sharp, but real real sharp.
When I was in Germany in the early 60’s, I bought a hunting knife that I could sharpen to the point, that it was sharper than a straight razor. You could take a roll of toilet paper, unroll a couple of feet and starting at the bottom of that part hanging down, start slicing pieces of it off without the slightest tear in the toilet paper. Every cut was clean and smooth.
I lost it about 20 years ago on a hunting trip and have looked for something to replace it with since then.
The Doug Ritter RSK Mk3 fixed blade looks pretty good but I would hate to spend $165 and find it will not sharpen to the point I want, or it will not hold an edge. Thanks for the link, Bill.
I have bought several $100+ knives and have been disappointed in them. None have matched my old knife that I lost. I want a thin strong blade that can be sharpened very sharp and will hold an edge. It doesn’t have to cut nails but it must hold an edge with normal use.
What are some of the knives I should look at?
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Dave
Simplicity
New member
I'm not an expert but I think most knives these days are stainless.I don't think they can be be sharpened to the degree a carbon steel blade can.
Dave - sounds like others are a bit more in touch with things these days, but do some research on knives made of M2 tool steel.
Seems to be very well regarded in the knife community, for the properties you are looking for. It's not stainless, but with minimal care it seems to hold up well with some of the modern coatings applied to it.
Seems to be very well regarded in the knife community, for the properties you are looking for. It's not stainless, but with minimal care it seems to hold up well with some of the modern coatings applied to it.
Warren,
I remember some great lines from M*A*S*H* and they include Charles Emerson Winchester's "Tattoos are the poor man's way of investing in art" and someone else stating, "There are no atheists in foxholes." To paraphrase the latter, "There are no Pollyanna's that own C-Dory's."
I have used my Emerson to open boxes, mail, fish, deer and just tonight to cut weedeater line. Like any tool, it can be used for many things.
Dave,
Check out the K-Bar TDI knife, the short model in a Kydex scabbard. It's inexpensive, sharp and practical.
Nick
"Valkyrie"
I remember some great lines from M*A*S*H* and they include Charles Emerson Winchester's "Tattoos are the poor man's way of investing in art" and someone else stating, "There are no atheists in foxholes." To paraphrase the latter, "There are no Pollyanna's that own C-Dory's."
I have used my Emerson to open boxes, mail, fish, deer and just tonight to cut weedeater line. Like any tool, it can be used for many things.
Dave,
Check out the K-Bar TDI knife, the short model in a Kydex scabbard. It's inexpensive, sharp and practical.
Nick
"Valkyrie"