Need advice: C-dory 22 Angler

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bodi

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Hi everyone,

I appreciate any advice you can give.

I live in Santa Cruz and have finally saved enough and convinced my wife I can buy a boat for fishing. Orginally I am from Upper Michigan and have done a lot of lake boating in superior and portage lake in 18' boats (bayliners) but this will be my first boat for offshore ocean fishing.

Reading posts from all of you it seems like the C-Dory is more than a sea worthy vessel but I want your opinions if it is a good 'first' ocean going boat in Monterey Bay area? I have basically zero hours capataining my own boat in the ocean but I do have my sea legs and have been on boats for hundreds of hours.

I want to use it primarly for fishing and scuba/spear fishing and the only complaint I see on other sites is that it is a bit slower than other boats.

The other boat I was looking at was the Boston Whaler 220. But talking with some locals here the Boston Whalers are fast and dependable but very wet. Basically I will be cold and wet if I plan to go outside the bay with anything =>4ft.

I haven't tested any of them yet but I appreciate any of your experienced advice I can get. I will keep doing research and will hopefully buy early Sept.

thanks again

Bodi
 
I have never taken mine out in the open ocean, however many in your area do. I can say that I have been in some pretty nasty stuff and stayed dry, just turn the heater on depending on the type of heater you get and you are nice and toasty in the wee hours.
 
thanks for the comment. I was hoping for a few more to chime in. Basically is a 22' C-dory a good first boat for an inexperienced ocean boatsman? Can I run offshore realtively saftley with the right equipement and sensible boating? Monterey Bay and offshore can see some large swell and high winds frequently so I want to make sure I pick a boat that can handle the conditions that this area puts out.

I appreciate any comments and no worries if you have none

Bodi
 
Hi Bodi,

I used to fish Whalers for 12 years, primarily Montauk's out of the Bodega area and they fished well but were wet boats. Two years ago, I switched to a CD22 and have not looked back. They are about as fuel efficient as the Montauk (90HP 4 stroke), a lot more comfortable with a cabin, range to tuna fish and most importantly fish well for all types in N CA. We have had a great year for salmon and halibut and waiting for some opportunities to run for albacore. They won't break any speed records, but will safely get you to your destination and back.

Hope this helps.

Vern
 
missed this thread somehow, but here's my take:

most boats would make a good "first" ocean boat. Depends if you can live with the limitations of the boat.
a. CD will be slower than your bayliner
b. if you run like your bayliner, you will pound because of the flat bottom
BW 220 is a wet ride =>4ft.
a. I dont think this is a true and fair statement. It all depends on the weather conditions; ie wave period, wind wave, wind, etc.
b. 4ft @ 6 sec is a bad ride. 4ft @ 9 secs is better. now add wind wave.
Fishing Monterey and offshore
a. If its inside the bay, most boats are ok. If you go outside the bay to Davenport or Pt Sur, check the weather.
b. offshore - pick your days carefully. There will be days where the deep-v boats can run but the CD will not.

Here are a couple recent trips we took:
Pt Sur - NW5' @ 9 sec, S 3' @ 14 sec, <10knt wind. Everything was fine until 11am and the wind picks up to 20 knts. We now have 6-8 ft seas with white caps so the fleet at Sur heads home. My friend's BW CC made it back in 2 hrs a little wet. We made it back in 3hrs with spray over the bow.
Offshore - NW 4' @ 8 sec, S 3' @ 15 sec, <10knt wind. It was an 80 mile run in the dark and the sea flatten out the rest of the day so it was perfect for any boat. We did it burning less fuel.

Hope this helps
 
Awhile back this year, we pulled our lines when the winds came up and ran 10 miles back with a 19' Arima in 20 - 25 mph winds in a 6' ocean pretty close together. We closed the door, positioned the permatrims and headed back at 10 - 12 mph using the wipers as necessary. We both took water over the top, the dif being that we stayed dry and they were soaked. The permatrims did what they were supposed to do and I would not run in big water without them.

Vern
 
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