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Latitude 38 re. Trailer Powerboats
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starcrafttom
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when they first banned 2 strokes on lake Tahoe the sail boats got an exemption , dont worry what every they do they will exclude themselves.
It wasn't just sailboats that got an exemption, it was also 2-stroke outboards under 10 hp.
Here is a quote from a news archive.
That quote is from: http://www.uswaternews.com/archives/arcpolicy/1lasof10.html
At that time, a few 2-stroke inboard sailboat motors existed that were low hp motors. There were also lots of under 10hp 2-stroke motors used on small boats. These small motors used little fuel and polluted very little compared to the 50hp and up 2-strokes in jet skis and water ski boats.
Here is a quote from a news archive.
Last of two-stroke marine engines face ban at Lake Tahoe
October 2001
U.S. Water News Online
RENO, Nev. -- Two years after regulators banned most types of personal watercraft at Lake Tahoe as part of a crackdown on pollution, other vessels will soon be prohibited.
Beginning Oct. 1, two types of two-stroke marine engines temporarily exempted under the ban are no longer allowed: auxiliary sailboat motors and carbureted two-stroke outboard engines with less than 10 horsepower.
``It's all part of the whole process of getting cleaner burning engines out there,'' Tahoe Regional Planning Agency (TRPA) compliance chief Steve Chilton told the Reno Gazette-Journal.
The two engines were given the temporary exemption in 1999 when TRPA banned two-stroke engines powering watercraft like Jet Skis and many outboard ski boats.
The engines were targeted because they discharged more than 25 percent of their fuel unburned into Tahoe's air and water.
Robert Galvin of South Lake Tahoe, Calif., said he would likely sell his sailboat because of the regulations.
``Absolutely, it's going to be a burden,'' he said, adding Lake Tahoe is being run by ``environmental dictators.''
Washoe County Commissioner Jim Galloway, who pushed for the exemptions for the two engines, said he plans to ask fellow TRPA governors next month to continue allowing them on the lake.
``I personally would like to extend the exemptions,'' Galloway said. ``I don't see there's any reason to think the 10-horse motors are really doing any harm. I'd like to extend this until I see evidence to the contrary.''
Studies show the 1999 regulations dramatically reduced gasoline pollutants in the lake.
Measurements taken during the 1999 boating season show levels of some gasoline pollutants dropped by as much as 95 percent from the year before. Samples taken in 2000 and 2001 show similar declines, officials said.
``It's been amazing and it's continuing to work,'' Chilton said.
Most personal watercraft manufacturers now make fuel-injected engines that comply with the TRPA regulations. New engines also are available for small outboards and sailboats.
That quote is from: http://www.uswaternews.com/archives/arcpolicy/1lasof10.html
At that time, a few 2-stroke inboard sailboat motors existed that were low hp motors. There were also lots of under 10hp 2-stroke motors used on small boats. These small motors used little fuel and polluted very little compared to the 50hp and up 2-strokes in jet skis and water ski boats.
starcrafttom
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Larry the exemption was called for and pushed through by a sail boat club on the lake, I was there when it happened. They settled for a hp limit but they were shooting for a sail boat exemption and many folks were pissed they did not get it. and if you read your own source you will see that the exemption went away. funny thing is that the boat that patrols the lake for two strokes motors and checks water clarity is a TWO STROKE. e-tec.
the whole two stroke ban on lake Tahoe was not about population. It was started , funded and pushed thru to get ride of Jet ski. It started as a jet ski banned and when it was shown that it would not fly it turned into a two stroke ban. that's when the groups behind it towed around that stupid trailer with the glass water tank and the jet ski. they would start up this miss tuned poorly running jet ski in a closed tank and then act surprised that the air and water got dirty. there was no other out let but a small hole in the top of the tank!!!!!!
Now I like that we have gone to 4 strokes but it cost a lot of people a lot of money in California and many of us could not afford to go buy a new motor. the change to 4 stroke should have had a grandfather clause in it and everyone would have been fine with it.
the funny part to me is that the ONE guy that started it all and financially backed the 2 stroke ban campaign in the beginning did so because he did not want jet skis in front of his house on the lake ( most of which were owned by his neighbors) . Well I know that for a time the local jet ski club ( that formed to fight him and for their rights) make a point to go by his house a lot.
the whole two stroke ban on lake Tahoe was not about population. It was started , funded and pushed thru to get ride of Jet ski. It started as a jet ski banned and when it was shown that it would not fly it turned into a two stroke ban. that's when the groups behind it towed around that stupid trailer with the glass water tank and the jet ski. they would start up this miss tuned poorly running jet ski in a closed tank and then act surprised that the air and water got dirty. there was no other out let but a small hole in the top of the tank!!!!!!
Now I like that we have gone to 4 strokes but it cost a lot of people a lot of money in California and many of us could not afford to go buy a new motor. the change to 4 stroke should have had a grandfather clause in it and everyone would have been fine with it.
the funny part to me is that the ONE guy that started it all and financially backed the 2 stroke ban campaign in the beginning did so because he did not want jet skis in front of his house on the lake ( most of which were owned by his neighbors) . Well I know that for a time the local jet ski club ( that formed to fight him and for their rights) make a point to go by his house a lot.
Interesting story. If that patrol boat is a modern Evinrude e-tec it has lower emissions than modern 4-strokes. I noted that not all 2-strokes are banned, only old carburated 2-strokes. Modern injected 2-strokes are allowed.
I noted in a more modern reference that there is a 5 mph speed limit within 600 ft of shore, so those pesky jet skis and anyone else including sail boats faster that 5 mph will now have to go slow or stay away from the shore.
I noted in a more modern reference that there is a 5 mph speed limit within 600 ft of shore, so those pesky jet skis and anyone else including sail boats faster that 5 mph will now have to go slow or stay away from the shore.
starcrafttom
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having a 5 mph speed limit on lake tahoe is just a joke. Its a bowl with very few bays ( 3 i think) . any time the wind blows, all summer, you have three foot wind waves on the whole lake. a boat wake is nothing compared to that. just more feel good do nothing regs. I never got to fish this lake because of the motor band and not having enough money for a new engine. it really pissed me off. the 4 stroke law should have been grandfathered.