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Dan,
Be kind. You can load Win XP on a Mac now and people will believe you are using an Apple, when you really you are using a pear or whatever fruit Bill Gates enjoys.
We are an Apple shop, but because we have to use web sites that are written with ActiveX controls, we have a lot of two computer desks, or two operating system Macs. Not very efficient but effective.
Now if only I could run two OS's on an I-Phone, then I could run Nobeltec in my hand once I figure out how to get it to work with a GPS.
Tom
Be kind. You can load Win XP on a Mac now and people will believe you are using an Apple, when you really you are using a pear or whatever fruit Bill Gates enjoys.
We are an Apple shop, but because we have to use web sites that are written with ActiveX controls, we have a lot of two computer desks, or two operating system Macs. Not very efficient but effective.
Now if only I could run two OS's on an I-Phone, then I could run Nobeltec in my hand once I figure out how to get it to work with a GPS.
Tom
dogon dory":23rv1f5h said:
This could become much nastier than a political shouting match. 8) We've used Macs since 1984 and have been forced to use PCs for some things in the studio before we retired. By choice, our home is Macs:3, PC:0... and it operates smoothly and crash-free. :twisted:
We use MacENC for planning, but haven't had reason to hook it up to a GPS (use the E-80 and a Garmin chartplotters at the helm). About 10 years ago, we did use a puck with a Mac laptop in the motorhome (before good portable mapping GPS units); it was a Delorme (and the performance of the GPS was mediocre at best back then).
At least one Mac laptop goes with us when traveling on the boat. Besides downloading images, as many of you know, the Mac with a wireless broadband card keeps us connected.
We are not anti-PC... some of our friends use PCs. We let our daughter marry a guy who uses a PC. If I had a table with one leg shorter than the rest, I'd have no problem jamming a PC under that leg... just to show that I can see some possible use for one. If it wouldn't polute the water, I'd use a PC as an anchor. If it weren't for PCs what would the average, non-descript, blindly-following types do to get frustration in their lives? See, I can be open-minded. 8)
Best wishes,
Jim B.
Paper Charts are always still needed when traveling waters you do not know like the back of your hand. Found myself digging one out the other day when a simple ground wire came loose, and the boat batteries were draining down underway instead of re-charging. Went 100% paper and turned all electronics on boat off. Was kind of fun actually, but had to put my seeing glasses on.
ORCA/Chris is correct on the Panasonic Toughbooks. Used one in the EOD community when traveling about and some areas were not particuarly kind for laptops. Never failed me. Wet or dry or dusty or sandy. Good Stuff.
Byrdman
ORCA/Chris is correct on the Panasonic Toughbooks. Used one in the EOD community when traveling about and some areas were not particuarly kind for laptops. Never failed me. Wet or dry or dusty or sandy. Good Stuff.
Byrdman
Whoa !
I don't think we even want to get started on that (Mac><PC) thing. They're just two different tools in the tool box. :wink
As for the man's question, you can run a Windows Immolation Program on a Mac and I believe it will run Captains (haven't tried it though). :crook
I don't think we even want to get started on that (Mac><PC) thing. They're just two different tools in the tool box. :wink
As for the man's question, you can run a Windows Immolation Program on a Mac and I believe it will run Captains (haven't tried it though). :crook
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dogon dory":3060o3aa said:
Most of the time. :wink: Chicks dig cats - especially one that walks on a leash! Normal... riiiiiight. :twisted:
And "immolation"... now, THAT'S funny!
im·mo·lat·ed, im·mo·lat·ing, im·mo·lates
To kill as a sacrifice.
To kill (oneself) by fire.
To destroy.
Wandering Sagebrush
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Dan,
I know you can't be talking about a Microsell system when you mentioned a real computer, so you must be talking about UNIX, XWindows and VI. You da man!!
Just be aware that in order to really be a UNIX user, you have to wear Birkenstocks, suspenders (red) and have a pony tail.
Steve
I know you can't be talking about a Microsell system when you mentioned a real computer, so you must be talking about UNIX, XWindows and VI. You da man!!
Just be aware that in order to really be a UNIX user, you have to wear Birkenstocks, suspenders (red) and have a pony tail.
Steve
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As a newby, I'm gonna duck the "trash it and get a real computer."
I am curious about Mac and GPS as I have 6 Macs, including 3 laptops.
here is one option I came across:
MacGPS Pro software, with MapTech BSB Charts for the USA, including Alaska and Hawaii, on two DVDs.
and another:
GPSNavX™ is the very affordable solution for the boater that wants to take the Mac aboard for real-time display of position on full color marine raster format BSB and Softcharts.
Any other ideas?? Sounds like a few macophiles here. Seems to make sense with the GPS pucs available. I don't want to run Windows latest POS on my Mac. TIA
I am curious about Mac and GPS as I have 6 Macs, including 3 laptops.
here is one option I came across:
MacGPS Pro software, with MapTech BSB Charts for the USA, including Alaska and Hawaii, on two DVDs.
and another:
GPSNavX™ is the very affordable solution for the boater that wants to take the Mac aboard for real-time display of position on full color marine raster format BSB and Softcharts.
Any other ideas?? Sounds like a few macophiles here. Seems to make sense with the GPS pucs available. I don't want to run Windows latest POS on my Mac. TIA
dogon dory":3v2xoo6u said:
I don't consider myself part of any particular counter culture, Dan. I just like stuff that works. Like it's supposed to. I've had several PCs... only used for specific software/photo packaging applications in our business; they locked up frequently and were "clunky" to use (no, that's not a counter culture technical term - they just weren't smooth in function like all our Macs). I even bought an inexpensive Dell laptop a couple years ago, thinking it might be a better solution for charting... I was wrong.
I do have an iPod. It, too, is easy. I use it most evenings, mostly for listening to podcasts (mostly boating related) that I've downloaded with iTunes (also easy). I don't use it in public and don't really give a rat's rear if anyone thinks it's cool or not. I enjoy it, so I use it. I just downloaded a half dozen new programs to listen to last night. Free - my favorite price. I have to say, I've never paid for anything for my iPod, but is has been handy to download my own CDs (and photos) on it... hundreds of songs, podcasts, and a few video clips in a small (easy to use) device.
Now, the iPhone - it looks pretty cool, but I think it's only available with AT&T, and we use Verizon. I use the free phone that Verizon gives you every couple years... well, OK, they get my money every month, so I know it isn't "free". So, I really can't speak for or against the iPhone.
I've never considered myself particularly normal (I used an Apple IIe when the rest of the world used IBMs, rode Harleys before they were "cool", and have owned mostly "different" boats and vehicles. But, I don't do it to be "cool" (or is that: kewl) or different). I do what I enjoy. Perhaps that's why I was self-employed most of my life? (Joan says I am hard-core unemployable because of my willingness to point out BS :wink: ).
Now, very sincerely, absolutely no kidding (and that's not easy for me to do), I don't really care what kind of a computer, boat, electronics, car, bike, house, jeans, shoes, etc, etc anyone else has. I only made the Mac vs PC comment because of your remark about a "real computer." I know there are a lot of folks out there who think what they do or what they have is "the best." Any remark I make here about "the best" should be taken tongue in cheek. What's good for me and my circumstances may or may not work for others. I'm happy to give an opinion when asked if something works or doesn't (for me).
Especially since we've retired, "stuff" doesn't mean as much to me as it used to. I don't judge people by their "stuff". And I don't particularly care how they feel about my "stuff" (this is beginning to sound like a George Carlin routine gone bad).
My 70 year old brother-in-law recently had to replace his computer. He asked my advice, I recommended an iMac, knowing what his usage would be. He thinks I'm a genius because it's so much faster, easier, better looking (and viewing), and... did I mention EASIER than his old PC. But, it's a tool... I wouldn't recommend a hammer to him when he needs a screwdriver. But yet again, I digress...
I'm guessing we were all just having fun with the Mac vs PC crap. In case anyone thought I was implying that everyone should use a Mac, I'm not... but it sure works GREAT for me. If a Mac question comes up, I probably have more background with it than you... if a "should I build my own PC" question comes up, I won't offer an answer, 'cause it's out of my realm of experience. But, if anyone buys "stuff" to be cool... well, that's how many companies market their products. I just buy what I like.
Stay cool, :xlol
Jim B.
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Wandering Sagebrush
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Dan,
I don't think you did anything but give us all a good natured laugh. FYI, I just retired from a career of programming and managing programmers (can you spell herding cats), and I wrote Window's code back in the old days using 'C' without the benefit of the newer development suites. Those were the good old days... or were they?
I guess the ongoing instability and vulnerabilities that seem to be in every release of Windows are what got to me. Today is Tuesday, so when I boot the XP machine, I expect that there will be a Microsoft update waiting for me. OK, the truth is out... I use both OS's. When all is said and done, I really do enjoy UNIX more than anything, but it is so impractical as an end user's machine. And yes, VI is the best code editor ever developed (did I really say that?)
cd \
rm * -rf
Cures all ills.
Regards,
Steve
I don't think you did anything but give us all a good natured laugh. FYI, I just retired from a career of programming and managing programmers (can you spell herding cats), and I wrote Window's code back in the old days using 'C' without the benefit of the newer development suites. Those were the good old days... or were they?
I guess the ongoing instability and vulnerabilities that seem to be in every release of Windows are what got to me. Today is Tuesday, so when I boot the XP machine, I expect that there will be a Microsoft update waiting for me. OK, the truth is out... I use both OS's. When all is said and done, I really do enjoy UNIX more than anything, but it is so impractical as an end user's machine. And yes, VI is the best code editor ever developed (did I really say that?)
cd \
rm * -rf
Cures all ills.
Regards,
Steve
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Ouch! I would be PISSED if somebody tried that on my 'puter just to see what would happen! (From my instant Google education on Unix, we have just changed to the root directory and recursively deleted all files in all directories, correct?)
Wandering Sagebrush":9y4jz3oq said:
While we're kinda on the subject of iPods and iTunes, there are some good boating podcasts that I listen to on a regular basis:
Furled Sails (leaning more towards sailing stuff, but really good interviews with a wide variety of people involved in all types of boating)
World of Boating (kinda reminds me of "Car Talk" only about boats - light hearted, but fun to listen to. Also available on syndicated radio, including Sirius)
Power and Motoryacht (video podcasts, short reviews of some neat boats that I could never afford :wink: )
Raymarine puts out a monthly podcast.
Do a search on iTunes for whatever topic floats your boat, and you'll likely find that someone has done a podcast about it. And the price is right (free).
If you find you enjoy a particular podcast, you can generally download all the older shows (Furled Sails has produced over 100).
I keep the iPod by the bed... if I can't sleep, I put one earbud in and spend an hour or so being entertained without waking the Blonde.
Furled Sails (leaning more towards sailing stuff, but really good interviews with a wide variety of people involved in all types of boating)
World of Boating (kinda reminds me of "Car Talk" only about boats - light hearted, but fun to listen to. Also available on syndicated radio, including Sirius)
Power and Motoryacht (video podcasts, short reviews of some neat boats that I could never afford :wink: )
Raymarine puts out a monthly podcast.
Do a search on iTunes for whatever topic floats your boat, and you'll likely find that someone has done a podcast about it. And the price is right (free).
If you find you enjoy a particular podcast, you can generally download all the older shows (Furled Sails has produced over 100).
I keep the iPod by the bed... if I can't sleep, I put one earbud in and spend an hour or so being entertained without waking the Blonde.
breausaw":3mz2tjt7 said:
Hi Jay,
Just one guy's opinion - I much prefer a chartplotter at the helm of our C-Dory... fewer buttons to press and I have the screen mounted right where I need it. Overlaid radar and depth info. For planning purposes, I like the computer generally, for ease/speed of zooming around. On our boat, they both play functional roles. With the right mounting, no reason the laptop wouldn't work, and the price is right on the charts in the US... and you can't access the internet (yet) with your chartplotter. Pros and cons.
Best wishes,
Jim B.