John S. McCain Collision

I'm still reading but i'm not seeing a non follow up unit on that helm...
 
I just emailed that out to all my bridge officers to read. The lessons apply to all HMI bridge equipment. It is eerily similar to the exxon valdez
 
Be it Naval touch screen navigation, the Boeing 737 Max airplane, or a timer on a satellite in orbit, the "digital world" is fallible! I'm holding on to my "sextant"!
 
Barry Rietz":2nvccxbj said:
Be it Naval touch screen navigation, the Boeing 737 Max airplane, or a timer on a satellite in orbit, the "digital world" is fallible! I'm holding on to my "sextant"!
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& paper charts & compass & old enough to know how to use them :mrgreen:
 
cmetzenberg":1575htzk said:
I just emailed that out to all my bridge officers to read. The lessons apply to all HMI bridge equipment. It is eerily similar to the exxon valdez
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Just without the Whiskey? :roll:
 
From reading that article, the Navy has real problems with its management and safety culture.

I don''t know what causes it. Maybe the Navy thinks that since it is the best naval force in the world and that its mission is to project that force, that maybe basic navigation and collision avoidance can take a second seat.

I think the Navy needs to think through what it is all about and change that culture.

David
 
Young people with minimal training, flawed complex electronics in need of constant reprogramming, control fly by wire touch screens with menus all designed and built by a lowest bidder defense contractor, what could go wrong!!!!

Navy response, throw the commander in jail, thank God for the NTSB to help get to the truth.
 
Who's to know?

Truth and reality have been debated for centuries; i.e., epistemology.

Even facts, science and reality are on the chopping block these days; i.e.,
deconstructionism, postmodern thinking, even post postmodern thinking.

Maybe we need to rediscover morality and head toward another Enlightenment?

Aye.
P. S.: Christmas stimulates deeper thoughts... Ho, Ho, Ho...
 
I saw the results of the increasing reliance on black boxes in aviation as well, to the point that I will no longer fly commercial. As far as navigation, I would recommend the following to anyone: The European Discovery of America: Vol 2, The Southern Voyages A.D. 1492-1616 -- Samuel Eliot Morrison. He was a master mariner himself, and his dogged pursuance of original documents finally ferrets out the unvarnished truth of the early mariners and how they could hit the marks within 50 miles on successive voyages with nothing more than an astrolabe [Columbus] or sail the world [Magellan]. It really is a fascinating read that shatters many entrenched myths.
 
David Lewis who wrote We the navigators, also used traditional Polynesian Navigation techniques. He has written 10 books about his sailing adventures; many documented non traditional methods of navigation.
 
Contemplating my navel, at one time or another, for short or a few extended
journeys on various bodies of water covering an indeterminate amount of time
I have used different forms of navigation (see below).

ELECTRIC DEPENDANT
GPS
Loran C
Radar

TALENT DEPENDANT
Celestial (sextant, tables, lat/long)
Dead Reckoning (compass, sealed beer bottles overboard)
Depth charting for coastal
Star of the Sea (Stella Maris/Polaris)
FUGOUI
Seat of the Pants

Aye.
 
Ten sailor dead. Millions in damage. All caused by flawed electronics. They busted the Chief and the kid. How the hell does the "High Command" sleep at night?.
 
dotnmarty":315j2c29 said:
Ten sailor dead. Millions in damage. All caused by flawed electronics. They busted the Chief and the kid. How the hell does the "High Command" sleep at night?.
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my old roommate is a SWO. I asked him how he felt about the secretary of the navy getting thrown out after the Eddy Galligher thing, he said he was just happy to see the blood letting at that level and didn't care what it was for.
 
"...pleas for additional manpower, machinery and time."

Sounds exactly like police work.
 
dotnmarty":35pq0xrg said:
Ten sailor dead. Millions in damage. All caused by flawed electronics. They busted the Chief and the kid. How the hell does the "High Command" sleep at night?.
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Marty, Really good question. Lack of conscience :disgust

Harvey
SleepyC :moon
 
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