Intercoastal dumping

[flagold]

grey water coluld be excepted from tighter regulation in many areas.

And therin lies the problem -- once you let the environazis into your boat, nothing will ever be excepted because they always attempt to take complete control of every situation. The more extreme ones don't even want humans on the planet and see nothing wrong with taking private property over a fungus or flea. I simply refuse to trust such extremists with legislation of my boating activities and vote out the greens and envirowacks at every opportunity.

For now, we simply keep our heads down and hope everyone does the right thing (I think the vast majority do). Use of the porta potti and dumping ashore remains the way most of us do things. I have yet to dump at sea, but don't want anyone legislating the right to do so away either.

 

[Sea Wolf]

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I would agree with much of your assessment.

We have created a generation of more than enviornmentally conscious radicals that feel that the world is already overpopulated, polluted, and on the verge of total self destrution to the degree that they will tolerate no accomodation of man's infrastructure needs, and will stop at nothing to defeat any threat they see to their enviornmental priorities, and to promote those priorities by any means.

This is particularly sad to me as a science educator, as we always sought the use of reasonable means to protect the enviornment and at the same time, to accomodate man's needs.

I do not, however, believe that the radicals were born out of the mainstream of ordinary high school and other secondary education, but out of their own fraternization with other radicals and students at the higher levels of education and independent discourse.

What's paradoxical about the whole situation, is that they have become so out of the mainstream in some cases, that the reaction to them and their causes renders their efforts counterproductive as more mainstream folks react to their outrageous stratagedies and political maneuvering.

Your position that all of us should just mind our own business to keep the radicals from stiring up the pot may well be the simplest solution.

Joe.

 

[flagold]

I do not, however, believe that the radicals were born out of the mainstream of ordinary high school and other secondary education, but out of their own fraternization with other radicals and students at the higher levels of education and independent discourse.

I think you're on target here. From my observations of the radical greens in Oregon, most feed on propaganda from organizations they naturally gravitate towards that are devoted to the perpetual raising of cash with outlandish scare tactics, rather than formal educations. A heck of a lot easier organizing save the this or that fund drives than getting an education and teaching for 30 years (as you apparently did). Apparently, once the enviro fad movement discovered it could raise billions in donations, it devolved into a continual circulation of scare schemes which only muddy the water of legitimate work and research since the public (myself included) can no longer figure out what is legitimate and simply turn it off.

Of course, we were talking about a turd in Clearwater Bay I believe . . .