Maybe this was covered but I didn't see it it with a quick scan. Can you have a loaded concealed weapon on your boat legally? It wouldn't be on your person so a concealed carry permit wouldn't work. It is a second home according to the IRS and you can keep a loaded hand gun in your home. I have had a Grays Harbor sheriff's deputy come aboard for a safety check. I told him I had a loaded, holstered handgun in the v-berth and would get it it and unload it if he wished. He said "naw, thanks for telling me, just leave it there". Another side note, I did have a kid come aboard my boat in the middle of the night at Westport. I met him at the door with previously mentioned hand gun. He gave an excuse about looking for his friend. I thinking he was looking for downriggers to sell instead. I do remove the gun and take it with me when I leave the boat moored so the gun doesn't fall into the wrong hands.
Guns on Boats
- Thread starter Foggy
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No guns on our boat and space is one component of that for us. I have lots of opinions on guns and gun ownership but I will do something more useful than share them here.
We just finished a trip up north of the border with two boats, two teenagers, and our own 9 year old. In order to keep them having fun while on the island, (other boat camped on shore) I brought this:
http://simple-shot.com/accessories/band ... t-sampler/
We had the kids plus two of us adults find appropriate branches, carve them into shape, figure out how to attach the bands, and commenced shooting competitions each evening with our own seashell gallery. They were great fun and much more functional and accurate than we had guessed.
So the only weapons on our boat other than knives, are two handmade slingshots for now.
Greg
We just finished a trip up north of the border with two boats, two teenagers, and our own 9 year old. In order to keep them having fun while on the island, (other boat camped on shore) I brought this:
http://simple-shot.com/accessories/band ... t-sampler/
We had the kids plus two of us adults find appropriate branches, carve them into shape, figure out how to attach the bands, and commenced shooting competitions each evening with our own seashell gallery. They were great fun and much more functional and accurate than we had guessed.
So the only weapons on our boat other than knives, are two handmade slingshots for now.
Greg
colbysmith
Active member
I couldn't help but to remember this comedian as I read thru some of the posts here. Forewarning, the language is vulgar, but it is funny, and does provide some thought provoking comments. Again, I don't care what others chose to do, but this is still funny!
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...a71eec644ad63a0e2cf8c1ab03a6888c&action=click
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...a71eec644ad63a0e2cf8c1ab03a6888c&action=click
Well, my boat is how I get to most of my hunting spots, so yes. But also:
Having had a couple bears pick fights with me, and having had the firepower on hand to have won those contests, and boating only in places where if I had to go to shore for unforseen reasons I'd want to have a large firearm.
I agree that competence is key and that a gun will get an untrained person in more trouble than it will prevent.
I am an instructor in firearm safety and teach firearm proficiency only for predator defense. I believe that firearms are great tools, and can do tremendous harm if misused. The same could be said about my Estwing framing hammer.
Gun safes don't have to be huge. There are small ones for pistols. I don't have one on my boat. If my gun needs to be secured I use a trigger or an action lock. It's more in-line with the scale of things on a cd22. I just unloaded the gun on the boat, and that was about all before the kid. Now I use the lock. and keep the bullets in a separate spot.
I generally carry one of a couple big revolvers (my fave is a Smith and Wesson 460V), or a Remington .30-06 (pump action, 10 shot mag) if deer hunting (also a better predator defense gun, or a mossberg 500A 12G shotgun if after ducks.
I have already posted a description of how to safely dispatch a large halibut without gunshot and do so by myself regularly. I do not ever shoot a fish. I know of several instances where boats were holed, and even one that was lost from such actions. A gaff, a sharp knife (not a folding knife and not a vicky!) are all you need. I'll post a video or some pics with circles and arrows on finding that tiny brain, but there are two lines you follow, one across the gill plate, and one extending back from the top eye. Cut across the eye line on the gill plate line (perpendicular to the spine) and you will bisect its brain.
I really don't think a gun has a place on a boat as a Plan A fish calming device. Or even a backup. There are better ways to accomplish the same thing, in my opinion. But it's just my opinion.
It's also my opinion that this issue has already been discussed fairly thoroughly on this site, and that Foggy could have saved some folks their consternation by researching his question first. But I'm not sure that was his goal.
Having had a couple bears pick fights with me, and having had the firepower on hand to have won those contests, and boating only in places where if I had to go to shore for unforseen reasons I'd want to have a large firearm.
I agree that competence is key and that a gun will get an untrained person in more trouble than it will prevent.
I am an instructor in firearm safety and teach firearm proficiency only for predator defense. I believe that firearms are great tools, and can do tremendous harm if misused. The same could be said about my Estwing framing hammer.
Gun safes don't have to be huge. There are small ones for pistols. I don't have one on my boat. If my gun needs to be secured I use a trigger or an action lock. It's more in-line with the scale of things on a cd22. I just unloaded the gun on the boat, and that was about all before the kid. Now I use the lock. and keep the bullets in a separate spot.
I generally carry one of a couple big revolvers (my fave is a Smith and Wesson 460V), or a Remington .30-06 (pump action, 10 shot mag) if deer hunting (also a better predator defense gun, or a mossberg 500A 12G shotgun if after ducks.
I have already posted a description of how to safely dispatch a large halibut without gunshot and do so by myself regularly. I do not ever shoot a fish. I know of several instances where boats were holed, and even one that was lost from such actions. A gaff, a sharp knife (not a folding knife and not a vicky!) are all you need. I'll post a video or some pics with circles and arrows on finding that tiny brain, but there are two lines you follow, one across the gill plate, and one extending back from the top eye. Cut across the eye line on the gill plate line (perpendicular to the spine) and you will bisect its brain.
I really don't think a gun has a place on a boat as a Plan A fish calming device. Or even a backup. There are better ways to accomplish the same thing, in my opinion. But it's just my opinion.
It's also my opinion that this issue has already been discussed fairly thoroughly on this site, and that Foggy could have saved some folks their consternation by researching his question first. But I'm not sure that was his goal.
forrest":qac20w00 said:
Check your state law--there is a handbook which has a summary of all state gun laws. A lot of information on the internet.
In Florida you are allowed to open carry when hunting or fishing--also when on the way to...but that one is fraught with problems...
Some states require the gun to be unloaded, and ammo separated from the gun.
Some states basically ban hand guns, and people who are carrying a weapon on just a thru drive have gotten in trouble--New Jerrsey comes to mind.
We carry limited weapons in the RV--and in our cars, in compliance with the laws of the sate which we are in. However, I do have reciprocity of CCW in 38 states.
The most often used Book on gun laws for vehicles.. Generally these same laws apply to boats if traveling on the state waterways.
Absolutely if you have a weapon aboard, and you are boarded, tell the officer that you have a gun, and where it is located. Let the officer make the decision as to what he wants you to do.
My CCW is right next to my driver's license, and if stopped and I am carrying, I tell the officer where the weapon is, and had him or her the driver's license and CCW.
Absolutely if you have a weapon aboard, and you are boarded, tell the officer that you have a gun, and where it is located. Let the officer make the decision as to what he wants you to do.
My CCW is right next to my driver's license, and if stopped and I am carrying, I tell the officer where the weapon is, and had him or her the driver's license and CCW.
Emotions...
So, do you up and decide I don't feel like there should be a fire extinguisher in the kitchen today.
Or don't feel like I should lock the door tonight.
Or don't feel like seat belts are needed for this trip.
The world is a dangerous place. Situational awareness and preparation suffice most of the time. Other times more is required to protect life and property.
Know that police have no duty to protect individuals.
https://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=20903
https://www.firearmsandliberty.com/kasl ... ction.html
Your exposure on a boat isn't on open water. It is transporting it (rest stops, etc), remote anchorages and docks or even walking to town.
While we are at it spend a couple hours here for a glimpse of reality;
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/welcome.html
So, do you up and decide I don't feel like there should be a fire extinguisher in the kitchen today.
Or don't feel like I should lock the door tonight.
Or don't feel like seat belts are needed for this trip.
The world is a dangerous place. Situational awareness and preparation suffice most of the time. Other times more is required to protect life and property.
Know that police have no duty to protect individuals.
https://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=20903
https://www.firearmsandliberty.com/kasl ... ction.html
Your exposure on a boat isn't on open water. It is transporting it (rest stops, etc), remote anchorages and docks or even walking to town.
While we are at it spend a couple hours here for a glimpse of reality;
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/welcome.html
starcrafttom
Active member
As stated check with your state but- In Washington the weird thing to me is the different states of open and concealed carry. So if I am open carrying a pistol on my belt and get in my car I am now canceling my weapon. So when I get into a car i have to unload the weapon and separate the ammo for the pistol. I do not have to do that if I have my CCl. But if I am hunting with a long gun, which is hard to conceal, and I get into a car or truck I have to unloaded it regardless of having a CCL. A CCl does NOT cover a long gun in your car or truck that is loaded. This is why several companies have built kits that legally turn a ar-platform in to a pistol. Its all about the grip. With the kits the ar is now a pistol and you can leave it in the car loaded. Big with preppers as part of your bug out kits. No I dont own one. My min 14 is a better hammer for the nails I need hit. But its silly things like that that illustrate the silliness of laws regulating guns and not the actions taken with them.
starcrafttom
Active member
Oh my point was that this applies to boats as well as cars, trucks, rv camper, and motorcycles.
Gene Stebbs.
New member
I think that where you are and what your activities will be are the determining factors with this issue....I would feel pretty silly going ashore on Dall island looking for grouse or deer carrying a stick or sling and a bag of rocks, but this topic always brings up a distinct separation of ideas of what is right and what is wrong....to each their own and God bless all.
Thank you for replying to this thread.
Being wiser or better off after reading the posts here
is a matter of individual opinion, in my opinion. This
also applies to the question "Am I going to have a firearm
with me on my boat?"
The choice is one of personal preference.
"Maybe yes...., maybe not...., maybe you don't want to find out."
Stay safe out there.
Aye.
Being wiser or better off after reading the posts here
is a matter of individual opinion, in my opinion. This
also applies to the question "Am I going to have a firearm
with me on my boat?"
The choice is one of personal preference.
"Maybe yes...., maybe not...., maybe you don't want to find out."
Stay safe out there.
Aye.
I don't think you should abandon what works for you. I just don't do it, and don't consider it part of a backup plan either. If this doesn't work, my downrigger weight has never failed. But the cheeks do suffer.
Here is the map. Cut perpindicular to the spine, in the line on the gill plate above the eye. The brain is tiny, but x marks the spot.
Halibut are so kind to beginners, a giant fish that barely fights most times, and then nice lines to cut along for all the important parts.
I do realize that many use a firearm to take care of things, but unless you get it right on this X it's not really a guaranteed success. The 410 is probably best, as are snake shots for pistols. I gaff the fish and then pull it up and lever the fish's head up above he gunnel. I usually try to gaff the white side, so the top of the fish is away from me. STANDING TO THE SIDE and securely holding the gaff down (thus levering he fish UP), I cut as indicated. It's pretty clear when the deed is done. The fish is still capable of movement, but it will be very docile.
As you get better, try to gaff through the spine. This will keep the fish quieter on the gaff and let you get done quicker.
If you have to put your body near the gaff tip, or behind where you are cutting then STOP and reposition, realign and do it again. With a little practice it's an easy way to single hand big fish. I'll try to take a video someday. Maybe. We'll see.
Here is the map. Cut perpindicular to the spine, in the line on the gill plate above the eye. The brain is tiny, but x marks the spot.
Halibut are so kind to beginners, a giant fish that barely fights most times, and then nice lines to cut along for all the important parts.
I do realize that many use a firearm to take care of things, but unless you get it right on this X it's not really a guaranteed success. The 410 is probably best, as are snake shots for pistols. I gaff the fish and then pull it up and lever the fish's head up above he gunnel. I usually try to gaff the white side, so the top of the fish is away from me. STANDING TO THE SIDE and securely holding the gaff down (thus levering he fish UP), I cut as indicated. It's pretty clear when the deed is done. The fish is still capable of movement, but it will be very docile.
As you get better, try to gaff through the spine. This will keep the fish quieter on the gaff and let you get done quicker.
If you have to put your body near the gaff tip, or behind where you are cutting then STOP and reposition, realign and do it again. With a little practice it's an easy way to single hand big fish. I'll try to take a video someday. Maybe. We'll see.
Kushtaka":396o3rbt said:I don't think you should abandon what works for you. I just don't do it, and don't consider it part of a backup plan either. If this doesn't work, my downrigger weight has never failed. But the cheeks do suffer.
Here is the map. Cut perpindicular to the spine, in the line on the gill plate above the eye. The brain is tiny, but x marks the spot.
Halibut are so kind to beginners, a giant fish that barely fights most times, and then nice lines to cut along for all the important parts.
I do realize that many use a firearm to take care of things, but unless you get it right on this X it's not really a guaranteed success. The 410 is probably best, as are snake shots for pistols. I gaff the fish and then pull it up and lever the fish's head up above he gunnel. I usually try to gaff the white side, so the top of the fish is away from me. STANDING TO THE SIDE and securely holding the gaff down (thus levering he fish UP), I cut as indicated. It's pretty clear when the deed is done. The fish is still capable of movement, but it will be very docile.
As you get better, try to gaff through the spine. This will keep the fish quieter on the gaff and let you get done quicker.
If you have to put your body near the gaff tip, or behind where you are cutting then STOP and reposition, realign and do it again. With a little practice it's an easy way to single hand big fish. I'll try to take a video someday. Maybe. We'll see.
You Just ruined the otoliths :lol: :wink:
South of Heaven
New member
I was too lazy to read all six pages of this thread but....I have no use for guns and have never even held one (and don't want to). But I definitely feel that the 2nd Amendment should always be upheld and protected.