First Post, Looking to buy a 255TC

dbrena":bie5ddxn said:
Lotsa stuff clipped ---

I am also undecided about the kicker for the tender. Leaning toward a 2 or 5 hp Honda.

If you ever think you will use the dinghy/kicker for trolling, you will be disappointed in the Honda 2. It's a fine engine for pushing a boat along, but because of the centrifugal clutch, it does not idle down to a good trolling speed. Enough RPM to engage the clutch gives too much speed for chasing things like kokanee. I sold mine to a friend with a sailboat, and am now waiting for a Suzuki 2hp to come in to my dealer. The Suzuki has a fwd/neutral lever.
 
A big thank you to everyone who posted here with help on equipment, etc.

It looks like my wife and I just bought a 2009 TC255 from Ben at Master Marine in Mt. Vernon. I decided I wanted the Suzuki 175's enough to have them trade out the 140's for 2010 175's. I have to say that the decision to buy a C-Dory was helped along by the support available from the C-Brats. I also would like to thank Matt Gurnsey from Kitsap Marina and Marc at Wefings Marine for their help.

I need to make some decisions about electronics and I'm thinking about the Northstar M84 or 6100i and Broadband Radar. I'm not sure of the best place to buy, but I would like to get most of the items from someplace with good service. Maybe someone can comment on one of the above head units fitting the space above left of the wheel.

I am having them remove the short radar arch and I am planning on installing radar on a 12" post on a hinge in the front of the roof. This will make it easy to carry a dinghy or a couple of kayaks.

Thanks again for all the help.

I will post some images as soon as the album is set up.
 
Brian,

Depending on the size of the display, you can position it left of center in the helm with little or no interference with your view of the water. Shown is an E-80 Raymarine which does not obstruct any water view.
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If possible, a hinged, folding Radar mount would be nice for clearance on ferries, RV garages, etc.
 
Brian, I put considerable time and research into broadband radar and decided in the end to pass on it... Peruse the website at PANBO.COM and read their write up on broadband... It is promising but not ready for prime time...

In addition to the MFD you mentioned take a look at the latest Garmin GPSMAP products that accept their 18HD or 24HD radar heads... This gives you the capability of MARPA tracking of ships and can hook an AIS receiver to it and have the capability of a large ship information center on a small scale at modest cost...

Whatever you decide keep us posted...

cheers
denny-o
 
Should have jumped in here earlier. We purchased a 2009 Tomcat 255 with twin Suzuki 175's from Marc Grove at Wefings. We LOVE the boat and working with Marc and his crew has been a dream. We are up in Vermont but had no problems working with Wefings in Florida. They will be delivering the boat to Vermont in April.

Modifications we had Marc install were Raymarine GPS, Radar, fishfinder, autopilot, and VHF Also added an extra hot & cold shower in the cockpit and extra chock-cleats on the bow. We had a the regular radar arch replaced with a higher one so we could slip an inflatable on the roof from the cockpit. The biggest addition was teak laminate flooring. It is absolutely gorgeous and the folks at Wefings installed it.

I added photos to our album. You should be able to click on the link on the left and look at them. Tried to get pictures of all the additions.

Good luck.

Best
Peter & Linda Brownell
Lake Champlain, Vermont
 
Thanks Peter , we still have one beautiful black Tomcat available with the 150 Suzukis . Its one of the last around and its time to find it a home . PM if interested .
Marc
 
Brian

I hope your experience of dealing with Ben and Master Marine in your boat purchase goes well and mine was an exception. Purchased a EZ loader trailer there and it was an experience I wouldn't repeat.

Jay
 
Thanks for all the help. I really do like the look of the teak and holly flooring and might do that. The broadband radar I can't let go of because of the low emissions, low power consumption, instant on qualities. I am planning on a sea trial with a marine surveyor because I'm no an expert on boat systems. Does anyone know what specific items would have been factory installed and which dealer installed?

Thanks,
 
Congratulations on your purchase Brian,

Mounting the chart plotter is a bit of an issue. Depending on the size, the options are on the curved portion of the console, behind the curved portion in the area between the starboard window and the center window, or from the top of the pilot house between the windows. Remember if you have an autopilot, you will need to comfortably reach the unit. I did see one TC that extended the console enough to mount a 12" unit (really nice). It might have been Cat Fever?

Do you have a dealer for the Northstar products in mind? In Alaska I had Raymarine on my previous boat and found service to be sketchy. This time I specified Furuno.

I decided to have a 22" radar arch installed aft on the pilot house. This allows for storage under and launching of a dinghy will be from the bow.

I haven't yet purchased electric over hydraulic brakes for the trailer (because of my location) but I will this fall when I tow to Lake Powell.
 
Congratulations on the purchase the 175 Suzuki is a good upgrade over the 140 (which are much smaller engines than the 150/170's)
s not much difference with the 175 except at the high end over the 150's (due to variable valve timing, which only cuts in a high speeds). Not sure about what top speeds you want to achieve, but our 3 year + old boat still hits in the high 40's with cruising gear. You will find that most cruising will be in the 20 to 35 mph range.

As for lap top vs dedicated displays--I advocate dedicated displays. Especially if you want to go fast, you want to have the display just below your sight line thru the foreward windows. You don't want to be fooling with keys and mouses when working with the computer--dedicated keys of dedicated displays are far better.

The broad band radar-there are some excellent high defination radars which I would still choose over the Navico Broad band units. As noted the broad bands are best at close range--again at speed, you want at least 3 to 6 mile range. I don't know how much experience you have, but there will be a learning curve either way. If you want overlay on the chart, you will need a gyro rated fluxgate compass. Sometimes this is integrated with the auto pilot. w= Agree that AIS would be a good addition.

As for propane cooking--I have used it for many years on larger boats. Not on the C Dories I have owned. I have found that the Wallas stove is very adequate, if you understand how to use it for both heating and cooking. If you want to upgrade a heater, then go with diesel; not propane. The propane requires a large storage bottle for a relitatively small amount of heat--diesel is far better, plus much safer. Any open flame (propane) will cause moisture in the cabin. The Wallas diesel stove is vented to the exterior--and does not cause condensation--but of course boiling water of any heat source will cause condensation.

As for light--you don't need more in the foreward cabin. Changing out the ports would be a mistake. You have plenty of light from the hatch. In fact we put a shade under the hatch to keep the light out. You will get ventillation from the hatch--not the windows--even if you enlarge them.

As for the surveyor--some may find defects--but it will probably not be during a ride. Hopefully your dealer will take care of any problems in your boat--you might want to read my saga with repairs on my Tom Cat:
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=3892&start=0 If you take the time to read this it will give you an idea of what to look for in potential defects. The place a surveyor should help is making sure that the boat is up to ABYC specs.

Also remember that a 2009 C Dory Tom Cat 255 will not have a factory warantee, so you want to make sure that the dealer will stand behind the boat incase of any problems.

As for brand of electronics--I would look very carefully at Garmin--although there are a number of other very good electronics. Garmin is the easiest to use, has some of the best cartography, and a good high def radar at a good price. Furuno is top notch, but a bit more difficult to operate. If you are willing to spend the $$ then go Furuno with a good HD radar. The best radars are not practical in a C Dory type of boat, since an open scanner of 4 to 6 feet is not practical. Don't worry about the radar emissions--you are well below the beam,, even with a low arch. Beside unless you are concerned about reproductive organs or eyes and will be directly in the beam, recreational radar, is such a short pulse and low energy that there are no heath issues.
 
If you have a moment, you can check out the location of our chartplotter and autopilot controls.

The folks at Wefings located the chart plotter on the dash in front of the helm. At first I thought it might block the view out the front window but from where I sit, it only blocks my view of the front deck a bit. My view of the water is completely unobstructed. It is a treat to be able to look at the plotter without having to really move my head much. Note that the dash is a bit curved. The folks at Wefings filled in the area under the plotter and painted it to match. Nice touch.

The autopilot control is on the dash just to the left and below the plotter.

You can see it fairly well by clicking on the icon for the photo album to the left and choosing "Shakedown Cruise: then looking at the photo labled "All Raymarine Products ..."

Best
Peter
:-)
 
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