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The following is from The American Electricians Handbook (1942) A Reference Book for Practical Electrical Workers. Terrell Croft, consulting engineer. McGraw Hill Book Company, Inc, New York and London 1942

Electricians often test circuits for the presence of voltage touching the conductors with the fingers. This method is safe where the voltage does not exceed 250 and is often very convenient for locating a blown-out fuse or for ascertaining whether or not a circuit is alive. Some men can endure the electric shock that results without discomfort whereas others cannot. Therefore, the method is not feasible in some cases. Which are the outside wires and which is the neutral wire of a 115/230 volt three wire system can be determined in this way by noting the intensity of the shock that results by touching different pairs of wires with the fingers. Use the method with caution and be certain that the voltage of the circuit does not exceed 250 before touching the conductors. (This and the several paragraphs that follow are taken from “Electrical Engineering:)

159. The presence of low voltages can be determined by testing. The method is feasible only where the pressure is but a few volts and hence is used only in bell and signal work. Where the voltage is very low, the bared ends of the conductors constituting the 2 sides of the circuit are held a short distance apart on the tongue. If voltage is present a peculiar mildly burning sensation result, which will never be forgotten after one has experienced it. The taste is due to the electrolytic decomposition of the liquids on the tongue which produces a salt having a taste. With voltages of 4 or 5 volts, due to as many cells of a battery, it is best to test for the presence of voltage by holding one of the bared conductors in the hand an touching the other to the tongue. Where a terminal of the battery is grounded, often a taste can be detected by standing on moist ground and touching a conductor from the other battery terminal to the tongue. Care should be exercised to prevent the 2 conductor ends from touching each other at the tongue, for it they do a spark can result that may burn.

RESUSCITATION FROM ELECTRIC SHOCK By Frederick Koliz, MD

1st. Lay the patient on his back, 2 Move the tongue back and forth in the mouth by seizing it with a handkerchief or the fingers, while working the arms to induce respiration. 3. Don’t pour anything down the patient’s throat. 4. Try to cause the patient to gasp by inserting the first and second fingers in the rectum, and pressing them suddenly and forcibly toward the back. 5. If possible, procure oxygen gas, and try to get it into the lungs during the effots at artificial respiration. --205.188.xxx.x
 
I've enjoyed many great posts on this site over the years, but this is just the best ever. Thanks, man! In a bleak, bleak world, this is just what I needed. :thup :thup :thup
 
I have done this type of testing (accidentally) just twice in my life, once on a boat when a wrench became a wire, and once in the house involving splashed water and hot wires. Now, I prefer to play the...how can I avoid that for the rest of my life game.

The time in the house was just a few years ago and felt pretty scary. I would take a broken bone over another big jolt.

Greg
 
Thank heaven that both electrical testing and CRP have come a long way since 1942! However even my father (Cal Tech 1927)--was smart enough to never try the "touch" method...on the other hand, much of his work was with transmission lines--and voltages in the thousands of volts....

Thanks for the laugh.
 
WOW, Sure glad Dr Bob pointed out that came from 1942. I missed that part of it and was thinking Ken was bringing around some "new" techniques. Yikes, getting the bight of the electrons is not a good place to be in.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

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I have been doing a bit of wiring on the boat (antenna splitter, AIS receiver, computer for Coastal Explorer, computer monitor), and this just left me LMAO! Thank heavens for the digital multimeter!
 
Bit twice:

As a teenager, on the fingers, as I touched the bare 110 V leads to a dangling lamp fixtures ... after completely disassembling it, hot. Just some tingles.

As an adult, when I reached across to the sink tap with one hand while barely touching a stove control knob with the fingers of my other hand. A very brief jolt/spasm across the body, and finger tingles. That one scared the bejesus out of me. And was the last time we stayed at that low budget motel. The guy at the desk just took it in stride when we told him about it.
 
I had a friend that worked many years as an electrician, lineman, and for a local power company. He tested the voltage in an old house I had that had the post and wire layout that old houses had. He showed me how to touch the ends of two wires to two adjacent fingers to test for voltage and it worked well. Always a little scary for me but he always did it.
 
My step grandfather who learned the electrical trade in the 40's did his voltage testing just as described. In the 60's he was still doing it this way & I would watch with amazement, but with no desire to try it his way, though accidentally, I've got to feel it several times. The latest was a couple months ago, while replacing the 240v elements on our hot water heater. Our house is old & the breaker switch set up ancient, which contributed to my not getting one of the 240 legs switched off. With the tank not quite drained, I started to remove the top element & pressurized water starting spraying out with me then attempting to get it back in, the water spray caused the wire leg not turned off to arc to my hand or it could have been my hand brushed the wire end, either way with my feet standing in water it was quite a jolt. One would think at 68 years old, this kind of lesson would not have to be endured.
 
I my 35 years of teaching high school science, students often "experimented" outside the prescribed box on their own, despite warnings and admonitions to not do so. :amgry

The All Time Darwin Award went to an insolent 14 year old fellow who simply couldn't resist the temptation to test out the conductivity of his new orthodontic braces by clipping the alligator clips of a 90 volt DC power supply to the top and bottom sets simultaneously , then throwing the switch. :idea

Needless to say, his eyes lighted up like a pin ball machine in full heat, and the words from his mouth cannot be even printed here in exclusively adult company! :lol:

Some people, some time, get what they justly deserve! (Fortunately!) :twisted:

Joe. :teeth :thup

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