EdenPURE GEN3 Quartz Infrared Portable Heaters

Boris (Journey On) and I had a brief exchange of PM's yesterday regarding ours and other's comments about the various types of electrical heaters, and how some folks may be reacting to his and my comments.

We want to assure everyone that we're just voicing our personal opinion about of own preferences, just like Thataway (Bob), , Doryman (Warren),Dene (Greg), Cavu (Ken), Lloyds, Not For Hire (Mark), eNormous (Norm), and others.

We just see the situation alike (as do some others), and are having fun with the science, engineering, and advertising isues presented by the one product.

In no way is this criticism intended for or directed to any of the other C-Brats participating in the discussion or simply following it along.

We're just a couple of science/engineering type "gear heads" having fun with what we see as not believable due to our training.

No harm meant, no foul, no hard feelings, hopefully.

Just trying to lighten things up on a technical topic. :lol:

Hope it's OK with everyone!

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
I have enjoyed this thread,.....and the left overs were great too!!

I got a good warm happy glow feeling as I sat and watched the college games yesterday on TV looking at my little cheap heater in the floor warming my feet a bit. Ya see, I had bought one of the cheap heaters years ago... instead of Paul Harvey's choice.

I was warm, full, and had the backing of our Eng Dept that I had purchased the correct heater. Life is good.

Thanks to all my engineering gear head geaks and boat freaks. You make my life much more fun.

Byrdman
 
I ended up grabbing a couple of the Optimus H-5210 Infrared Quartz Radiant Heaters from Northern Tool ($29 ea. also) - one for the workshop and one for Antibody.

I also just purchased a Xantrex PRO Inverter XM 1800. The $$ I saved on the heaters will now go to upgrading the Guest 5/5/10 Charger with a Xantrex XC5012 - Multi-Stage Charger - 50 Amps/12vDC Output in the spring.

Thanks everyone for the feedback.
 
eNORMous":3ap9d35r said:
I ended up grabbing a couple of the Optimus H-5210 Infrared Quartz Radiant Heaters from Northern Tool ($29 ea. also) - one for the workshop and one for Antibody.

I also just purchased a Xantrex PRO Inverter XM 1800. The $$ I saved on the heaters will now go to upgrading the Guest 5/5/10 Charger with a Xantrex XC5012 - Multi-Stage Charger - 50 Amps/12vDC Output in the spring.

Thanks everyone for the feedback.
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Cool! My setup as well except I went with a cheaper inverter and charger for my 22 footer. A Xantrex is in my Devlin and it's fabulous. Let us know how it works for you. So far...so good for me.

BTW....what kind of batteries do you intend to utilize?

-Greg
 
I have two Type 27 Series batteries. I just reviewed the Guest 5/5/10 Charger. I don't think I even need to upgrade my Battery Charger. This Guest 5/5/10 is a very decent Battery Charger. I think I'm just going to put the Xantrex PRO Inverter XM 1800 on the current electrical grid and plot/chart my electrical usage baseline data to see what it buys me with my current setup. I think each Type 27 is connected independently (in parallel) to each of the 5 AMP lugs off the Guest 5/5/10 (essentially occupying the 5/5 slots). With that said, I "think" I have some options regarding the remaining 10 AMP lug slots (not sure what all they are right now) but I have a independent 10 AMP circuit available on the charger.

I have to see what my next move is going to be.
 
The 1800 watt inverter will be a huge draw on the group 27 battery. Generally group 27 batteries are about 90 amp hour. This gives 45 usuable amps. 1000 watts will pull 120 amps (approx) at 12 volts--and the battery will only be good for 20 minutes...give or take. lets say that you run it at 400 watts--, that will be 33 amps, and you may get about an hour and 20 minutes out of that from the one battery.

OK--the next question you need to ask, how is the alternator going to hold up to full output? The temp will be cold--and the voltage regulator is water cooled, so probably not a problem, but you have other operating loads--such as electronics, the engine's intrinsic draw, lights, etc--and so figure realistically 35 amps may be available at rated speed.

So you will still be drawing down the battery or just even at 400 watts. Not sure how well the boat will be heated with 400 watts, when moving (probably better at rest, with windows covered and insulated).

It will be interesting to see how this goes. I would suggest some power management--maybe cummulative amp meter, like the link units or at the very least a good digital volt meter to see how the voltage of the battery is holding up. (a good ampmeter--with shunt) would be an even better plan.

We also have the Xantrex 1800 watt inverter--and it is a ncie unit. We use it for microwave oven use--5 to 10 minutes at a time max, plus the occasional curling iron or hair dryer--again for only a few minutes. We also have two group 31 batteries dedicated to this inverter (can be used for refrigation also). This gives about 240 amp hours capacity, so there is considerably more power available.
 
Yep, should be ~96Ah/Group 27. An Interstate SRM-27 is rated at 160 minutes Reserve Capacity which means the battery can be discharged for 160 minutes (2 hours and 40 minutes at a 25-amp level @ 80° F) before dropping below 10.5 volts. To approximate Marine/RV battery Ah ratings, we multiply the Reserve Capacity rating by 60% (yielding 96Ah).

I have a solid digital volt/amp meter (without shunt), and you bring up good points regarding the equipment with which you monitor/measure. I want to get an excellent shunted volt/amp meter and this will take time to research which one's work best and can be mounted in appropriate locations.
 
I've tested it some. The 400 watt setting doesn't draw down the batteries at idle. At cruise, 800 watts is fine too. This is verified by the Wallyworld voltage thingy and the boats voltage meter.

I have not tested the 400W setting against the batteries alone for any significant duration. At the dock or on the hook, I'd rely on the propane heater for my Campion or the Aspar heater for the trawler. Overnight, on the Campion, we'll use an electric blanket.

-Greg
 
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