Down Payment on a New 22' C-Dory

J

Joy

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Hi all,
I have just this past Saturday put a down payment on a new (to be built) 22' C-Dory, that I will p/u at the factory.
Although we currently reside in Alexandria VA, we will be moving to WA State. I plan to use the Boat for both fishing and cruising. I want to take that trip from Seattle to Alaska one of these days. I am listing below the boat I have ordered. I am still unsure of the Marine electronics.
So I am interested in 3 things.
1) Is my list complete?
2) What electronics would you suggest? I want safety, fish finding and navigation. I have actually thought of getting something like the Raymarine - L1260DRC Plus 10.4"Color Fishfinder/Chartplotter with HDFI (High Definition Fish Imaging) Technology - Includes Ray120 WAAS GPS Sensor. Anyone have experience with this package? Would you suggest something different. I do like Garmin and Blue Charts, but...
3) What are your thoughts on Honda 90 vs Honda 75
Thanks much

22'C-Dory to be built

Factory installed options
Shore Power with Cord and Battery Charger
Anchor Deck Pipe
Compass
Electric Wiper (Both)
High Top
Open Front Window
Second Battery and Battery switch
Scotty Rod Holder (2)
Wallas Stove/Heater upgrade
Complete Rigging & Motor Packag3
75hp Honda Motor
8hp Honda Kicker
Trailer King Bunk
Deep Blue Color Accent
Floorboard
Swim Step
Trim tabs
Forward facing Seat
 
erandy, for the little extra money I believe that the Honda 90 is well worth it. With the right prop the extra HP is nice.
You may want to consider two other factory options. If you are considering an anchor windlass someday you may not want the deck plate. Many people start out with it but end up moving up to a windlass.
You may also want to think about the rod holder option. They are inexpensive and easy to install. After you have the boat for awhile you can pick the exact location that fits you and not the factory installer.
Electronics is such a personal choice with so many choices, Garmin is really coming out with a radar next year. I have a Garmin 2006C GPS/Chartplotter/Fishfinder/DP that is being phased out and I have had it only for a year. I also have a Raymarine SL72C radar that works great. All I can say is go to a store that has all of the systems on display and play with them.

Fred
 
I second the opinion to go with the 90. You can NEVER have too much power.
I had a 75 when I bought my boat and replaced it with a 90 4 stroke. Night and day difference. I love my 90 and would not go back if I were paid.

You might want to cinsider a radar unit too....
 
Hot damn, now you get to play the waiting game like several other pub members. Use extra caution if you're planning to move to WA that your garrage doesn't get to filled up with yet to be installed boat goodies :)
I'd vote for the 90 hp..... and..... delete the ice box
 
Use extra caution if you're planning to move to WA that your garrage doesn't get to filled up with yet to be installed boat goodies


Tell me about it! 83 days since my deposit was placed and I have an entire storage cabinet filled to the brim plus about 4 sq. ft. of garage floor.... On the plus side, you have plenty of time to brush up on your marlinspike skills and make docking lines/fender lines instead of buying them.

You'll also have plenty of time to take a safe boating course, either through www.usps.org or Coast Guard courses. Completing one does make a difference in insurance rates.
 
Agree that the 90 is well worth the extra bucks--when the boat is fully loaded it will make a difference. Agree with putting in your own fish rod holders and no ice box--we use two coolers in the cockpit and find it much better. Put in a couple of drawers and shelves in the ice box space.

People's experience with Raymarine has varied. Because of the limited space, an integrated system does have some appeal, but I happen to like full screens. I happen to like Furuno for radar. I have a Bottomline depth finder which is superb. I have a number of chart plotters, but think that the Standard 175 (I have the 170) is the best.

Good luck with the boat!
 
Congratulations ERANDY! Waiting was tough for us too, but we are as jazzed about our boat today as the day we finally got to pick it up! Have never lived in your neck of the woods, but we moved to Washington five years ago and we love it. Definetly the right boat for these waters, you can go out year round up here with that Wallas, and there are so many places to explore!

You did not list much about your trailer, but King is very well thought of out here. I would recommend the Stainless disk brake option, a two speed winch and make sure the bunks have cut outs in the back as there are several sling launch areas that demand the cut outs.

I would second the "delete the ice box" suggestion, our's broke in the first rough water we encountered. Good idea on the second battery option but you need to decide where you want them mounted. I choose to have them mounted in the rear lazerettes/fish well compartments for security, but would not recommend doing that. First, you cannot get to the batteries easily to maintain them. You have to disconnect everything so that you can move the batteries around in order to check or add water, clean posts etc. Second, I think that the weight of those two batteries up high and at the edges of the boat add to the pendulum effect when you are rocking back and forth in swells. Third, they take up some valuable space in those areas. Forth, the port fish well is not vented, so the battery gasses hang around in there and are not a positive influence on the fiberglass. I need to remount my batteries down by the rear drain between the gas tanks, that way they are low and easy to maintain.

Did you go with hydraulic steeering? It is a bit extra, but out in the Puget Sound you'll find a lot of floating debris, more than I've ever encountered in my travels. This requires some dodging skills, and you'll appreciate the smooth and minimal steering effort of the hydraulic system after an hour or two. The hydraulic system is almost maintenance free and I think you also get a payback in the long run due to it's longevity.

Can't think of anything else right at the moment, but I will warn you that the last week before you actually get the boat is the hardest. Hard to get to sleep at night due to excitement but easy to explain to your friends and co-workers why you are smiling so much!

"Chivita" Dave
 
All
Thanks for all of your time and advise. I am taking it to heart. I did add a Windless to my add-ons.
I am going through the electronics options now. So will make that call soon as I want the factory to install for me!
As to the trailer, I had not even thought about the issues of winch or the cut-out for lifting the boat, so really appreciate that.

For some of you in the Puget Sound area, My wife and I have taken the Coast Guard course, so we will try to be safe and good sailors.
I did go w/ the 90hp, but decided on the Suzuki and 9.9 kicker, I am a big guy and thought that the extra hp and greater cu. in. and fuel injection were worth the change from Honda to Suzuki. I currently have a Honda 50 that I love, so I hope the change will prove good!
 
erandy":2r3j6uth said:
As to the trailer, I had not even thought about the issues of winch or the cut-out for lifting the boat,
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Congratulations on your new vessel!

Naturally, if you purchase a "roller trailer" rather than a "bunk trailer" the "cut-out" option becomes a non-issue as the "lifting sling straps" are easily positioned between the rollers. Pros and Cons of bunk vs roller trailer have been discussed at length in another thread on this site. I'm on my second vessel and second roller trailer and have been very pleased with them. (Note: I've never had a bunk trailer).
 
I did go w/ the 90hp, but decided on the Suzuki and 9.9 kicker, I am a big guy!

Big and tall? I went with the "Tall Top" option. At 6'3", I am somewhat altitude advantaged and kept banging my head in the standard C-22. I did forget about sling cutouts myself, so it's time to talk to my dealer. Thanks for the tip.

P.S. If any of you Sea Brats see a C-22 heading south on Interstate 5 on the back of a truck this coming week (Toast trim color) it's mine! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
 
Good point Sneaks -- the taller top makes it seem like a larger boat, even if it isn't -- I'd definately get that.

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Take it from me, you are going to LOVE that Suzuki 90. I have teh 20 pitch prop on my 22' Angler and it is awsome. Part of my decision to go with the Suzuki was that it was the only one of the bunch that would spin that prop. Lots of torque and great economy. Did I mention it was quiet?
Not sure the prop combo will be the same for a Cruiser but your dealer whould be able to help you with that. By the way, GET A SPARE PROP.

This is what my Suzuki looks like 50 miles out into the Pacific Ocean...

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And you thought it was just another fish picture... :mrgreen:
 
Oh yea, one more important consideration.

Consider hydrolic steering and a second helm. It is far cheaper to add this from the beginning than it is to add it later.

I have the dual helm and love it, especially when I am docking alone in a cross wind.

Great for trolling too, I can't say enough good things about my second helm.
 
Congratulations on the new boat! We took delivery of a 22 this summer, and planning for it was almost as much fun as using it. I went through a lot of the same choices you're facing - for what it's worth, here's my take.

First, good choice on the 90 hp. I love the Honda 90, and can't imagine having the 75. Trim tabs are a must. Can't comment on the kicker. I did about 70 hours of survey work with my boat over the last few weeks, running at 3 knots to tow sonar, and the boat tracked and ran great at that slow speed with the 90.

We benched the icebox and made it a cabinet - haven't regretted it, the extra storage space is great and iceboxes never seem to work very well. The electric windlass has worked well for us. There are a lot of threads on that on the site, and going with the version that has a metal gypsy makes sense (we didn't, and will probably regret it).

With regard to GPS, I've used Garmin systems a lot and like the graphics and other features. Have also used and like Northstar, but the new systems (6000i) waste a lot of screen space with unnecessarily large labels on the screen for soft keys. The restricted space on the 22 led me to an integrated system.

I went with the Raymarine C80, with the 120S WAAS antenna, DSM250 Digital Sounder Module, 2kW Radome, and Pathfinder Smart Heading Sensor fluxgate compass. I really like the system (although I'm still figuring out how to use parts of it!). Full screens are nice, but I hate the clutter at the helm (and wanted the space at the center of the helm for other purposes). In any case, with the C80 I find that I seldom have all three instruments (chartplotter, radar, and fishfinder) showing on a single screen. When running, I usually just have the chartplotter on, giving me the full screen. Depth is shown as a number at the top of the screen, along with speed, course, and whatever else you enable. When I get into shallow water or need the fishfinder, I split the screen between the chartplotter and fishfinder (both are plenty big enough with a split screen), or just use the fishfinder. Radar can be overlaid on the chartplotter, which I find very useful, or you can enable a separate window to use various plotting functions. On the downside, I miss the compass screen from the Garmin and find the tidal data a little harder to access on the C80 (although not objectionably so). The little negatives, however, are far outweighed for me by the convenience of an integrated system. The C80 fits perfectly right behind the wheel, and the screens are easy to see.

I did not go with the hydraulic steering, but put Raymarine's Sportpilot autopilot on. Hydraulic steering would have been nice, but I couldn't afford everything I wanted. The Sportpilot works pretty well so far. Would probably go with hydraulic steering if I had to do it again.

I've found the Flowscan meter really helpful in determing the most efficient settings for trim tabs & motor tilt, as well as in tracking fuel consumption.

Theer are different opinions on the transom bench seat, but we've liked it. Folds down and out of the way when you need the space, but is a convenient way to seat 2-3 people. More space efficient than the same number of chairs.

Good luck with boat and have fun! Let us know how you fare...

John
 
All
I just want to thank you for all of the advice you are providing me. What a great site to get real down to earth answers.
I am picking my electronics and will go with a Raymarine package. Seens they currently have the must integrated package for the features I lust over.
I have not told the wife the sticker shock number yet though!
Randy
 
I use the C80 package and autopilot - cool. Lots of bang for the buck and very user friendly. If you fish, it has the best depth sounder of the bunch -- at least for now.

Dusty
 
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