El and Bill":8b3w2a5n said:Yes, things usually have had to get really bad before there is collective action on a large scale -- BUT -- that shouldn't hold us back individually in trying to do our part in 'making things better' (and each of us has our own views of what constitutes better, and we respect that).
Also, smaller collective actions can sometimes rectify things to help keep things 'on the trail' in our democracy -- and such actions are going on around us every day -- and they help prevent larger-scale catastrophes.
We are optimists, and believe we should all be involved individually and collectively try to have our fact-based opinions heard by our representatives -- and perhaps help forestall the disaster you envision for all "empires."
Forestall -- an interesting choice of words, which means, according to the American Heritage dictionary, "To delay, hinder, or prevent by taking precautionary measures beforehand." Actually we are not all that far apart. A case in point is the year 2000 computer scare in which widespread disaster was predicted to our computer systems, because instead of using four-digit year fields in computer code, the year was commonly expressed as a two-digit field such that "1979" was expressed as "79." Programmers thought the year 2000 was so far away as to not pose a problem. Then something truly remarkable happened when 2000 finally hit: nothing at all. The reason is that government and business recognized the necessity for changes to be made, and these entities made massive expenditures to forestall -- prevent -- the problem. In the days of ancient Rome, Patricians massively expended their own wealth to build a fleet of ships to counter the Carthaginian threat. This was nearly unprecedented for the Ancient world. They did so out of recognized necessity. But that was Republican Rome -- not the Imperium. Eventually they decayed and collapsed several hundred year's later due to a wide range of reasons, and the odds are that we will collapse as well.
Peter Bernstein once stated that because a pattern has been repeated 99 times in a row, it does not necessarily follow that that pattern will continue the next time around. So in that context, and in the context of the world's Year-2000 response, there is always hope, if even a little, that America could break that pattern of decay and collapse. You are right to be optimistic and to try everything you can do to forestall or avert disaster. To prevent our eventual collapse, however, we will need a self-actualized, informed and educated population. If we look around at the state of our educational system and the degree to which people work with and care for one another, do we see an increasing trend in such activities that warrants optimism such that this time around, it will be different?
Rich
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