craigslist scammer

[starcrafttom]

Well I re listed my boat on craigslist a week after some subhuman hacker stole my account and used my boat add to try and scam folks.

Well after the re list I get a email that just say SCAMMER. No I am not a scammer. well after several email I find that some one got scammed out of some money , don't know how much, over the stolen listing.

I am really sorry that 1. my add was used in this way and 2. I cant get my fingers around their wind pipe.

I hate hacker and con artist. worse scum after child molesters and mimes.

I dont know why and one would think that a 2005 c-dory was going to sell for 14k any way. should have been a tip off. I hope that not to many folks got bite.

 

[Matt Gurnsey]

Craig's List has decimated the classified print industry with their free advertising. Our local paper used to have pages of classified ads, and now the Sunday paper may have two or three pages.

But the cost to the consumer is a free site to place fake ads at no cost to the scammer, and with very low risk.

Since CL is unmoderated by the company, and user moderation is, IMO, a joke, I can imagine a day when CL becomes filled with so many fake ads and scams that buyers will look elsewhere for items. I'm just not sure where that would be.

 

[Da Nag]

Craig's List has decimated the classified print industry with their free advertising. Our local paper used to have pages of classified ads, and now the Sunday paper may have two or three pages.

Good riddance. I've not subscribed to a paper in years, and when I do read them on occasion it's certainly not for the classifieds. Ads placed there are hugely inferior to online ads. No searching, no pictures, extremely limited audience, and inadequate item descriptions given the cost associated with providing significant details.

Since CL is unmoderated by the company, and user moderation is, IMO, a joke, I can imagine a day when CL becomes filled with so many fake ads and scams that buyers will look elsewhere for items. I'm just not sure where that would be.

How does a newspaper moderate a bogus ad that has already been published and distributed?

Craigslist moderation is not perfect, but it does work. We proved that with Tom's problem a few weeks back - a simple post here, resulted in the ad disappearing in under 20 minutes. Also, I see the results of Craigslist moderation in action every day, with respect to dog "for sale" posts - which are against the Craigslist terms of service, and many rescue organizations keep an eye out for them. Such posts get flagged and blasted, typically within 30 minutes. Another example - firearms. I'm not commenting on Craigslist's policy to forbid them, just on the efficacy of the flagging mechanism they have in place. Just try and find one for sale - the ad won't last long, if you do find one.

This topic seems to come up often, but it's simply no different than any other medium. Fools and their money, were lucky enough to get together in the first place. Those who get scammed on Craigslist, eBay, or even the local paper typically have nobody but themselves to blame. Due diligence and a healthy does of skepticism, are all that are necessary to ensure a successful transaction on Craigslist.

Quite frankly, it's pretty simple in my mind - the benefit provided to millions of users from Craigslist, far outweighs the problems encountered by those who should have known better to begin with. I'm not a fan of tailoring such services to the least common denominator - folks that don't understand the concept of "buyer beware", aren't the responsibility of Craigslist to protect.

 

[Matt Gurnsey]

One of the problems with Craigs List is that the "rules" are whatever the users feel like. Ads can be flagged for any reason, whether they violate the rules or not.

The loss of classified ads has made it harder for businesses to get their message out to consumers. As a business, we're willing to pay for effective advertising, but Craig's List had decimated most of our advertising avenues.

I have a love / hate relationship with craig's list. Love the concept, hate the self ritous, small minded idiots who revel in the power of flagging, and make up reasons to flag out of whole cloth. When there is no accountability for one's actions then some will act recklessly simply because they can.

Having read their "help" boards about reasons that ads get flagged, and having people tell posters "your price was too high" and other similar (rediculous) reasons why people might flag an ad amazed me.

Having worked in the magazine feild as an ad rep and as a writer, that industry as well is being decimated by the lack of advertisers. And I know many of us here really enjoy the internet, but there's nothing like holding a magazine, or paper, or book, in my hands to read. That's part of the experience for me.

Da Nag- When the interenet becomes the only source of information, who will be accountable for the accuracy? I was obviously born way too late, and am incredibly old fashioned in my thinking. I don't like what's becoming of the world, and often wonder just how much longer I'll be able to function in it.

The lack of civility, the diconect between people as they become all enthralled with their electronic devices and reduce their actual human interaction.

Ah, sh!t, I'm just ranting here.

 

[Sneaks]

Ah, sh!t, I'm just ranting here.

It shows.

When I was 11, each year was a big deal. Then 16 (driver license) was a landmark followed by 21, the drinking age. Around 40 I began fretting over each "zero" year, and I turned into a grouch at 50 because it was a half century milestone. Now that I've passed 70, it seems the half decade points are becoming important but I'm still not looking forward to when, just like ages 1-12, each year becomes a milestone.

Rant away but be grateful. You're looking down at the lawn instead of up!

Personally I use Craigs List all the time. Mostly selling "treasured heirlooms" that only take up room and aren't treasured by anyone but me and the buyer. Caveat Emptor applies just as it did when I was 21 in both buying and selling and the old Heinlein statement TINTAAFL definitely applies. When it looks too good to be true, it probably is.

Enjoy being chronologically challenged. I do, except several times at night. when familiar porcelain calls.

Don

 

[Da Nag]

Da Nag- When the interenet becomes the only source of information, who will be accountable for the accuracy?

As one who doesn't trust traditional media in any way, shape or form - we're evidently starting from a different baseline. I don't believe any significant accountability currently exists for the types of publications you cite. IMO, profit needs/motives for such organizations are in conflict with true impartiality.

And, I'm only referring above to mainstream publications and news media. The Internet has no monopoly on questionable content. There's a whole slew of traditional content viewable at every supermarket checkstand and on daytime TV, that plenty of folks take as gospel.

Unfettered publication by anyone with access to a computer, no doubt raises the signal to noise ratio. The flip side being, that stories counter to traditional media's profit or politically driven interests actually see the light off day. As with my earlier support of Craigslist, my take on this is similar - it's up to the reader to determine what is and isn't accurate, by understanding the motives of the source and/or supporters/detractors.

In support of the new wild west publication model I'm so in favor of, I'll provide an obvious beneficial example - this site. Yes, there's plenty of information here that's questionable, even flat out wrong - we're not immune from the drawbacks associated with a lack of strict editorial control. But, show me a better resource of C-Dory information - it doesn't exist, and never has. In fact, show me a better source of generic boating information from traditional media - one would be hard pressed to do that either. Our "competition" in that regard, is from other sites such as this.