Cottage Industry?
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rogerbum":32xmyk78 said:
Thank you. Yes, the boat at http://www.marinautboats.com/
Am I perhaps misunderstanding what this forum is about?
Also, if that's actually this forum topic, I'm a little confused about "All Marinauts, All the Time" if there is actually only one Marinaut ever delivered...perhaps the forum topic should be called "That One Marinaut, All the Time"?
I have been casually following this boat for a few years, but admittedly lost track for months until this afternoon...but, I think that if there has only been one boat actually delivered since its announcement, I would probably have zero interest in ordering one.
It's a shame, since the design is great, but I don't want to be a beta-tester, either. I had hoped the boat would have become mainstream by now, but guess not.
Karl":2r29gr9q said:
Karl,
The boat only recently went into production with Les at EQ Marine taking this on. At present, I don't think Les has plans to produce a huge number per year. So if you want to wait until there are 100's in the field, you'll be waiting a LONG time. HOWEVER, I wouldn't characterize buying even the first one as being a "beta tester". The method of production is quite standard and the hull is not a wild departure from the C-Dory. So it's not like it won't work (or will need re-booted frequently :wink: ).
Once you do a test ride in the hull, you'll know how the hull performs and nearly all the rest (engines etc) are the same as on any other boat by any other manufacturer - e.g. you can get what you want from a major supplier and Les will likely recommend a Honda for the main and a Tohatsu for the kicker. The other details (like cabin lighting, stove, heaters, cleat placement etc) have all be very well thought out and anything unique is being placed by one of the best outfitters in the business (Les at EQ). So what you'd be getting is not an untested boat with a lot of unknowns but rather something much closer to a refinement of the C-Dory based on years of experience and high level thought. More importantly, you know (or should know if you don't already) that Les at EQ will stand behind his work.
rogerbum":my6m7a96 said:
Oops! Dumbass attack! :roll: I was thinking about the Cutwater. My bad. I'll be quiet. I'll just sit here in the corner and not say a word. For 5 whole minutes. Marinaut... Cutwater... they look the same if you are reading fast... with both eyes closed... and your head up your a... um... nevermind. Damn, there goes my "street cred" here. I allow myself one mistake a week, and this one is it for, um... let's see... I'm up to May, 2047. :crook
Thanks for keeping me in line.
Best wishes,
Jim
I've been an "armchair" pilothouse boat buyer for a while...I have recently bought waterfront property and am just timing my exit from my so-called career...
I will be continuing to watch the progress of the Marinaut...I will be retiring to a place close to Montreal, so west coast boats are a disadvantage for me...
I'm keeping an open-mind...still thinking maybe C-Dory, even looking at welded aluminum pilothouse boats, all of which are left-coast produced. So, will start looking at Steigercraft, too, which are more local.
The Marinaut(s) looks to be very well thought-out, but frankly, I would be leary of buying hull #2.
I will be continuing to watch the progress of the Marinaut...I will be retiring to a place close to Montreal, so west coast boats are a disadvantage for me...
I'm keeping an open-mind...still thinking maybe C-Dory, even looking at welded aluminum pilothouse boats, all of which are left-coast produced. So, will start looking at Steigercraft, too, which are more local.
The Marinaut(s) looks to be very well thought-out, but frankly, I would be leary of buying hull #2.
Its a long ride from Longeyeland to Seattle . The Steigers are nice,heavily built,fuel thirsty modified and deep vees , but no accommodations like the C Dorys and Tugs [and even Cutwaters] have . If you mostly fish they are something to consider , but for cruising comfort and economy, not so much.
Marc
Marc
OK, my five minutes of time-out are up. At this point, I consider the Marinaut to be somewhere between a production boat and a custom made (one of a kind). When buying a production boat, you have some data with the numbers (producing a lot of boats doesn't mean they are well made). When having a custom boat built, you are depending on the skill and integrity of the builder. Dave and Les bring that integrity to this project with a product that has the production work being done by a quality fiberglass place and put together by Les and crew. If I were in the market for this size of boat, this one would be at the top of my short list.
The other components (engine, windows, electronics, etc) are standards in the industry. With the Marinaut, I'd be comfortable with hull #2, 20, or 200, as long as the principles involved stay the same.
Best wishes,
Jim B.
The other components (engine, windows, electronics, etc) are standards in the industry. With the Marinaut, I'd be comfortable with hull #2, 20, or 200, as long as the principles involved stay the same.
Best wishes,
Jim B.
I would not have any reservation in buying a Marinaut from Les. The design is well though out and done. There is nothing wrong with buying a semi custom boat--and most folks pay considerably more for that. I wonder what your reservation is about both the low production number (since the first one was just delivered after a prototype was built. The second is why not a boat from the left coast? Even if you live in Maine--if that is the best boat then get it.
Captains Cat
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JamesTXSD":2sq6ck2e said:
Does that make Two? Unheard of. Do you mean the "principals", such as the builders? Or are you alluding to their "scruples" or some such thing?
Charlie
Captains Cat":8hdrbceh said:JamesTXSD":8hdrbceh said:
Does that make Two? Unheard of. Do you mean the "principals", such as the builders? Or are you alluding to their "scruples" or some such thing?
Charlie
Wow! Two in one thread - it's a new record!
The first screw up was my misreading, this one was just dumb. I should know better; after all, I is an author.And, you know what they say if you can't laugh at yourself? Nahhh, I don't know that, either. 8) June 2047. Hell, I'm going to be up to 2050 by the end of the night.
What's that old quote: better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you are stupid, than to open your mouth and confirm it. :xnaughty
BeXt Wishebns,
Jim
I won't speek for Les, but he told me he does have one in the pipeline for the SBS in 2012. There was also one outside his shop and the one already purchased (hull #1) that he was doing some work on inside the shop. I'm no expert, but what I observed of the boats when I was up there last week, the quality is superb; they are a custom made boat to order, not a mass produced boat like a Bayliner etc. He told me when someone buys one the first thing he hands them are color swatches/samples for hull, trim, interior & exterior upholstery...even counter tops.
starcrafttom
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James, Nice face plant my freind :wink:
I have owed a 22 cdory. I have driven a 22 cape cruiser (the first one sold) and I have driven the new marinut that dave keeps. which is hull 1, not hull 2 that was delivered to the first coustmer.
The new boat is a joy to drive. It corners very well at a flatter angle then the cdory. It rides bow down or at a flatter angle then most boats its size allowing it to cut thru the small chop that we have around here. If I was looking for a small fuel effient cruiser or fisher I would be hard pressed to fine a boat that could do both better for the price.
As far as quailty of build and out fitting you could not do better then Les. I dont say this because hes a friend, which he is, but because he takes the care and time to think out how a system should be installed to maximize not only easy of use but easy of repair. I on the other hand just get things installed as quickly as I can so I can go fish. you see people like me need people like Les to keep me out of trouble. Dave, the owner of the company is a great freind and a more honest guy you will not find. He has put forth a great deal of thought in to this boat and its features.
I have owed a 22 cdory. I have driven a 22 cape cruiser (the first one sold) and I have driven the new marinut that dave keeps. which is hull 1, not hull 2 that was delivered to the first coustmer.
The new boat is a joy to drive. It corners very well at a flatter angle then the cdory. It rides bow down or at a flatter angle then most boats its size allowing it to cut thru the small chop that we have around here. If I was looking for a small fuel effient cruiser or fisher I would be hard pressed to fine a boat that could do both better for the price.
As far as quailty of build and out fitting you could not do better then Les. I dont say this because hes a friend, which he is, but because he takes the care and time to think out how a system should be installed to maximize not only easy of use but easy of repair. I on the other hand just get things installed as quickly as I can so I can go fish. you see people like me need people like Les to keep me out of trouble. Dave, the owner of the company is a great freind and a more honest guy you will not find. He has put forth a great deal of thought in to this boat and its features.