South of Heaven
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Thanks Bob. That's reassuring.
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South of Heaven":3fxocyn1 said:
I am one that has been happy with my Wallas. I have not had any bad issues over 10 years of use. I have to admit that I don't use it a lot but when I do it has worked well.
I also ALWAYS start it on high, run it at elast 15 minutes there before adjust the temp, and then before shutting it down ALWAYS run it on high 15 - 20 minutes. I also burn "KleenHeat" ONLY. NO smell and always works. I don't do much in the way of using it to cook, heat water or with the top up, but for cabin heat it is OK, just takes a while to warm things up.
Harvey
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Pat Anderson
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hardee":1enluvcr said:I am one that has been happy with my Wallas. I have not had any bad issues over 10 years of use. I have to admit that I don't use it a lot but when I do it has worked well.
I also ALWAYS start it on high, run it at elast 15 minutes there before adjust the temp, and then before shutting it down ALWAYS run it on high 15 - 20 minutes. I also burn "KleenHeat" ONLY. NO smell and always works. I don't do much in the way of using it to cook, heat water or with the top up, but for cabin heat it is OK, just takes a while to warm things up.
Harvey
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So, Harvey, what you are saying is (1) you don't cook, and (2) your are satisfied with a mediocre heater! Like I say, whatever floats your boat!
Pat,
You are half right, or so :lol:
1. I don't cook. Don't drink coffee so don't need hot water and I'm OK with cold mash potatoes a few times a year.
2. I'm OK with the heat I have. Out of the last 10 times I have run my Wallas, only twice was for my comfort, the others were because I had passengers aboard who needed cabin temps over about 60. I have used mine to dry the inside and warm up twice on my trip north last summer, after a 3 day nonstop rain, and once after doing laundry aboard and nothing would dry outside due to the fog, rain weather combo and I needed fresh clothes.
My Wallas has always worked when I needed it, (and I never talk bad about it on the boat :lol: I am also a believer in good fleece.
Harvey
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You are half right, or so :lol:
1. I don't cook. Don't drink coffee so don't need hot water and I'm OK with cold mash potatoes a few times a year.
2. I'm OK with the heat I have. Out of the last 10 times I have run my Wallas, only twice was for my comfort, the others were because I had passengers aboard who needed cabin temps over about 60. I have used mine to dry the inside and warm up twice on my trip north last summer, after a 3 day nonstop rain, and once after doing laundry aboard and nothing would dry outside due to the fog, rain weather combo and I needed fresh clothes.
My Wallas has always worked when I needed it, (and I never talk bad about it on the boat :lol: I am also a believer in good fleece.
Harvey
SleepyC:moon
Ron on Meander
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Pat, Pat, Pat..... I guess its possible to say there are only two types of outboard motor owners as well, those that have had problems and those that will have. I mean you can carry that way of thinking to almost anything man made, even Space X rockets.
There are many reasons why a Wallas is a good choice for a small boat.
1) Its a heater
2 )its a cooker
3) It doesn't add to the humidity (like propane or butane) and drys the cabin.
4) It has variable heat.
5) Its fuel is less likely to explode.
5) Its quiet outside. Unlike the noise created in a quiet anchorage by some of the Webasto and Espar heaters that do not use a muffler.
6) It uses far less battery power per hour than an Espar or Webasto.
7) It looks good.
But its a generalist, not a specialist. I totally agree that if you just want the best heat possible use a ducted furnace. Its not a furnace. I totally agree that if you want to heat water, warm up a can of beans or cook a gourmet dinner you can definitely find a cheaper or quicker alternative. But, it is one of the few choices out there for something that can do both, maybe not to perfection, but pretty well IMHO. I mean now, you use 5 different appliances to replace what one Wallas does. OK maybe 4. Everyone needs a BBQ on board. lol
Like all things on a boat it requires some maintenance and like all things with electronics whether a chartplotter, outboard, furnace, laptop, if a board goes you have a problem that you probably can't fix yourself. That's why we all have backup systems. And yes we do carry a backup for our Wallas when we are cruising.
I'm certainly not trying to change your mind Pat. We'll just have to respectfully disagree on this one. After 12 years of dependable use, and probably more running hours than the 1200 on Meanders 150 Yammie, We would REALLY MISS our Wallas.
Cheers
Ron
There are many reasons why a Wallas is a good choice for a small boat.
1) Its a heater
2 )its a cooker
3) It doesn't add to the humidity (like propane or butane) and drys the cabin.
4) It has variable heat.
5) Its fuel is less likely to explode.
5) Its quiet outside. Unlike the noise created in a quiet anchorage by some of the Webasto and Espar heaters that do not use a muffler.
6) It uses far less battery power per hour than an Espar or Webasto.
7) It looks good.
But its a generalist, not a specialist. I totally agree that if you just want the best heat possible use a ducted furnace. Its not a furnace. I totally agree that if you want to heat water, warm up a can of beans or cook a gourmet dinner you can definitely find a cheaper or quicker alternative. But, it is one of the few choices out there for something that can do both, maybe not to perfection, but pretty well IMHO. I mean now, you use 5 different appliances to replace what one Wallas does. OK maybe 4. Everyone needs a BBQ on board. lol
Like all things on a boat it requires some maintenance and like all things with electronics whether a chartplotter, outboard, furnace, laptop, if a board goes you have a problem that you probably can't fix yourself. That's why we all have backup systems. And yes we do carry a backup for our Wallas when we are cruising.
I'm certainly not trying to change your mind Pat. We'll just have to respectfully disagree on this one. After 12 years of dependable use, and probably more running hours than the 1200 on Meanders 150 Yammie, We would REALLY MISS our Wallas.
Cheers
Ron
I have a Wallas, but only use it occasionally. It did turn itself off once, and we took it into the Seattle/US office, and they said it got too warm, and to leave one of the cabinet doors open, or otherwise provide venting. And this year it got smoky once, but they said a back draft from wind being wrong. So in both cases not a problem.
My Wallas died a few years ago after many, many hours of trouble free service and wanted to move in a different direction for heating/cooking so never spent the money to revive it.
I purchased a used Origo from a fellow C-Brat that sat in the garage for 5 years then installed it for the Alaska trip last year.
I was impressed with the Origo. Nothing to go wrong, heats things up fast enough and very economical to run. The whole moisture thing is somewhat overblown. Coming in with wet rain gear will add more water to the environment than the stove ever could.
stevej
I purchased a used Origo from a fellow C-Brat that sat in the garage for 5 years then installed it for the Alaska trip last year.
I was impressed with the Origo. Nothing to go wrong, heats things up fast enough and very economical to run. The whole moisture thing is somewhat overblown. Coming in with wet rain gear will add more water to the environment than the stove ever could.
stevej
starcrafttom
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Pat the thing you missed about Harvey's choice of no coffee and ok heat is that he is not married. He does not have to provide to the same standard that you and I have to in order to live a comfortable and quite life. Still not sure what the better option is.
Pat Anderson
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starcrafttom":jnxtp0h8 said:
