CD-19 thoughts

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Bill Uffelman

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I don't see many postings on the CD-19 Angler model -- I guess there was never a Cruiser?

We drive a Cadillac SRX (not my first choice) so towing capacity is under 4000 pounds. While my first choice would be a CD-22, I think the CD-22 at 3500 pounds per literature would be at the upper limit for the SRX when loaded for the road. A new boat and a new tow vehicle in the same year just aren't in the budget!

I'm thinking that the CD-19 fitted with a camper back enclosure would make a comfortable boat for 3-4 day weekend use for 2 people in the southwest -- Lake Tahoe, Lake Mead, Lake Powell, Big Bear, etc.

We live in Las Vegas NV.

Bill Uffelman
 
We kept our C D 22 in Las Vegas and towed to most Western Lakes and S. Calif, as well as Puget Sound--much of our towing was with a Honda Pilot. Absolutely no problem towing to Powell, even up the Hurricane grade or the Cajon on I 15 from S. Calif.

The Honda is rated for 3500 lbs if it is a house trailer--and 4500 lbs if a boat--I suspect with the assumption that a boat is more stream lined.

I would think that the Cadillic SRX would tow certainly as well as the Pilot. The weight is about the same--and Cadillac currently has more HP. Neither are really built on truck platforms. You would want to check the tow bar capacity--as well as the appropiate hitch. Be sure that you have adequate brakes on the trailer. You want to be comfortable with the load and handling.

The 22 has a dinette, a full galley and I would think is much more comfortable for a week or so on the water. We had no problems with two weeks at a time--and look at Bill and El's pages--years at a time all over N. America. Also there are more 22's and both the availability and resale should be better.

Good luck finding a boat and welcome aboard.
 
No Bill....Just go with the 22 cruiser... and you will be far happier... and when you go to sell it you will be thrilled.... the 19 is a hard sell as everyone loves the 22 ...........it's a great boat and you will always be happy you bought the 22'............We live in Chester Calif..... and our 22' is perfect for lakes and rivers.... plus the ocean when we want...

Joel
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SEA3PO":ji6lvtag said:
.... the 19 is a hard sell as everyone loves the 22
Joel
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The 19 is like a big brother version of the 16 cruiser, its more like a cruiser than a angler (compared to the 16), due to the fact that you have an area for sleeping. Plus, the advantage for us on the 19 is the openess in the back. I love the 19, and I am polite enough not to make irrational comments about all the problems with the 22 (hey, Joel started it.)

Cheers,

Tom
 
My $0.02- (To add a little fuel to the fire!)

The 19 is best thought of as a daytime fishing excursion boat, and the 22 Cruiser is a better boat for 1) a couple, for 2) cruising, for 3) overnight use, and for 4) boaterhomeing, which is camping in it on land when traveling with the trailer.

Joe.

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I agree with Tom. Fortunately, We went boat shopping at the local C-Dory dealer on a sweltering NC summer day, just like the weather in which we usually boat. We ultimately picked the 19 over the 22 because of the open back and significant difference in the cabin temperature. Our boat was equipped with the factory enclosure. I've since had a set of screens made to replace the originals. The 19 is more than adequate for weekending and is a breeze to trailer. As for resale value, I honestly never considered it. All things considered, I allready lust after a 25 so it will more than likely be a trade in situation. Anyway, no matter which boat you choose, you won't be disappointed.
 
I don't think it is any problem with the horsepower of the Cad....(I think their great cars) but more a problem with the car not having a frame in the back and some to do with the front wheel drive.. .... I bet someone makes a special application mount that would make the Cad a decent tow car.... I have a load equalizing hitch that helps greatly...
I tow my 22' cruiser with a 1/2 ton Chevrolet 4wd shortbed pickup...and don't have any problems....and I tow lots of miles.

I kinda understand the feeling though....I would love a 25 but that would require me to get a larger pickup... and I like the truck I have now...

Joel
SEA3PO
 
I agree in that I can't imagine any trouble towing. I've even towed mine with a Liberty (to short, but it does it) to get it out of the hurricanes. One note -- my owners manual says 4500 for the CD-22 and I sure hope that's no misprint as mine is chock full of gear.
 
Bill
Please use careful consideration in your decision. The weights given in the brochures are usually dry weights and in the case of outboards without the engine. You should figure in food, fuel, gear and anything else you plan on carrying.Also there is the weight of the trailer. And if you should be envolved in an accident while towing over your rated weight you may come up against a uncooperative insurance company. I understand that auto makers are pretty liberal on their tow weights. So please be careful

Kathy and Chuck
Bootleg Hooch
 
We debated between the two, a 22 or a 19. Towing was a key factor, didnt really want to buy a new vehicle at the time, and the Volvo can tow the 19, so that was the first factor. Second was the gunnels, we both like the wide gunnels. The 19 is the 22, but with 3 feet cut off, (a reverse oldgrowth method of boat building).
Third factor was the open cabin in the back, but up here I'm not so sure of that advantage anymore. It leads to increased noise during cruising, and chilly nights, but summer is on the way.
So our deciding factors were ability to tow with a car, and for whatever reason, the wide gunnels, guess we liked the look.
Also, one thing to remember, is with the smaller size from the 22, I think you really need to focus on a light engine. I dont think twins would of worked, and we have been very happy with the E-Tec 90. So you really cant put a lot of weight in the stern of the 19's.

Tom
 
The 19 Angler also seems to have considerably more room in the helm seat (between the seat and the wheel) than in the 22. Is this an issue for anyone?
 
Love my little 18 Angler for travel. Sleeping two folks is best with a blow up type bed in the cockpit area for one of the two to sleep. A bit of moving stuff for and aft between sleeping and water travel mode....but a great boat, real, real light tow, and a bit better than 6.5 mpg on the water with the little suzi 50 hp.

Open back like the CDA19. But, with nice canvas job and a little buddy heater, easy to keep warm down into the 20s. Yes, a bit more noise than any boat with the hard alaskan bulkhead aft of the cabin area, but I have no issue at all of being able to hear other folks traveling with me, or the VHF radio.

You can see pics inside the Freebyrd photo album, under C-Byrd. Only 14 of these neat little classic puppies built.... and I got lucky and have the 14th hull.

Great little travel boat....and can be towed with just about anything.

Oh... don't let Joel's comments get you stired up.... he is a blast to be around and a great man.....and I just love his shirts too!!!! He and Susan are a blast to travel with...and Susan is WAY WAY easier on the eyes. Love Ya Joel... Mean it. Sure missed yall on this years Upper Cumberland River Cruise.

Byrdman
 
Just a thought on keeping trailer weight down with the 22. Use a single axel trailer with the aluminum frame and use aluminum wheels. Very kool looking and you will save a few pounds. Pick the lightest 90 HP OB. Travel with empty fuel and water tanks. Keep the other things in the boat light.

Our 22 on a SA steel trailer and a 90 HO Honda is just 4200 lbs. and we had fuel and water on board. I think with a little care you could be at or under the 4000 lb limit.

If cruising is your goal the 22 would have an edge over her more open siblings.

Fred, Pat, and Mr. Grey(the cat)
 
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