Cable, Dish network, DVR? What is your experience?

Mr. Fisherman

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I am tired of Cable going up every year and am looking to cut some expenses so I can do things like meet you guys in Seattle...

What are your experiences with these various TV networks? Tell it all, the good the bad and the ugly as well as what you really like.

Thanks in advance, I am looking forward to learning a lot...
 
Well, I have had Dish Network up here in Alaska for a year now. I have been pleased with the service so far. It occassionally drops the signal (usually with bad weather in the winter), but it re-acquires quickly and has never been down more than a minute. I haven't had any signal problems in the summer. I do not have a DVR, just the normal receiver so I can't comment on that. Contrary to what some people say, Dish Network does provide local channels (in most major areas). For Alaska, we can get Anchorage channels (300 miles away) - which is about as local as you get up here! :)

Hope this "mini-review" helps.
 
A little general info. Directv is the one preferred by RV'ers for TV alone. Direcway for two way internet access. Mainly because Directv isn't anal about staying in one place. They're much more "mobile friendly."

DirecTV has so many options it's actually better to contact one of the local brick/mortar places for current "best offers" if you're not a techie TV type. As an example, there is a TIVO like dual receiver DVR system all in one box wherein spouse can watch TV in the bedroom, record what she wants separately and concurrently while you do the same in the living room. Done via RF remote controls, so the remote sigs go through the walls. Consider two separate receivers though. Especially since, with a cheap satellite dish, the receiver, a TV and a tripod you can go to a C-Brat gathering and not miss a game. Tripod has to be on a surface that doesn't move though, so floating docks are dicey....

A good/bad: Mobile tracking satellite dishes cost about $1500. After watching what cell phone addiction does to drivers I can imagine what on-the-road TV capability will do eventually, and no I don't believe drivers won't find a way to watch.... They will, however, work on a floating dock or properly moored C-Dory, so for the man who has everything and no horses or multiple dogs to feed might consider it.

The ugly:
Lots of "extras" can eat away at the cheap per month charge. Each receiver is an additional charge and you need one for every TV in your house UNLESS you don't mind watching whatever the person with the remote is watching. You may not get local channels and that means a separate TV antenna. You may also suffer from channel overload. Just too many choices! If you do get local channels, you may lose them if you switch the system to your summer palace or go RV'ing. Clear view of the sky is absolutely necessary. Sufficient rain can interrupt the game.

Internet:
Direcway is owned by Directv. The die hards use the Datastorm system, either tripod mount or mounted atop their RV, but that system costs around 5 grand for equipment and "installation." $59/mo for Direcway if you buy the equipment for about $600 up front and only use a tripod mount or only use it at home.

The bad - they use different satellites so you can't watch TV and surf at the same time without a second (cheap) dish for TV and an account. DirectTV is a separate charge.

www.datastormusers.com is a good place to go to learn about satellite internet both on the go and at home.

The ugly:

Watch your warranties. The equipment is sensitive and spendy. The upload side of DirecWay is 80-120k with the newer 7000 system but slower than a dialup with earlier modems. DirecWay is still suffering occasional outages and glitches.

On edit: changed my careless use of the word TIVO to the more correct "DVR."
 
I have been with DirecTv for 9 years so I think I can chime in hear. Honestly I can only remember one fee increase in all that time. Cable, as you know, likes to charge more every year. If you are only going to watch the standard cable type channels such as discovery, The learning channel, comedy central (plus locals) than either Dish network or DirecTv would be a good choice. I think they have similar pricing. I do think that DirecTv pulls into the lead for the more "advanced" couch potato. They have far more HD channels if you in to that. Also they have the NBA,NFL,NHL league passes. But again for regular expanded cable type viewing they both are a good choice.

DVR's.

You can get a head ache researching DVR's and their options. I'm assuming your not interested in buying your own since your wanting to save money for boat bucks. Tivo's are the best in my opinion and the basic models can be had for under a $100 and sometimes for free. I don't think any Tv service has Tivo's as their supplied DVR so that is something you would buy on your own. I think DIrectv and dish both have some sort of DVR they can supply. I'm sure they work for recording shows to hard drives. THey probably work great for someone who doesn't a ton of TV. The DVR's that the satellite and cable companies supply don't have all the functionality/user features that a Tivo does. The reason I say that is the user interface of a Tivo is hard to beat. They have invested tons of money into making recording and watching tv user friendly, even wife friendly. Anyway's you can check out the following forum for all the techie/geek info your brain can take. www.avsforum.com they have several areas dedicated to DVR talk. Or for Tivo specific forums got to http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/index.php?

Enjoy!
 
Not sure if this will help you since you already have cable, it's for new customers, but this is what I did. If you don't have cable, call and ask for High Speed Internet. They will then offer you a deal to add Basic Analog Cable for $10.00 more for life, at least thats the deal I got. I pay $48.85 a month for GREAT internet conection and basic cable, which is all the tv my wife and I need. I just know though if I change the service any, my "for life price" will go away. Some of my friends have tried to add Internet to their present cable service and they want "a lot" more. I think you have to go without cable for 60 days before you are considered a new customer.

This is the deal Comcast gave me in my area and may not work for you, but it has worked for some of my friends. I have had this service for just over 2 years with no change in price.
 
One thing to do before purchasing the sattelite system is to have a site check done to make sure you can see the sattelite! The previous owner of our house purchased a dish and it can't see the sattelite anywhere on our property as Tiger Mountain is south of us and blocks the south facing view.
 
We have had Dish for about 7 years. Seems that the cost is similar to cable, but this is mobile. We bought it first for our motorhome and liked it so much we had 2 receivers installed in the house. The digital signal totally blows away our local cable (not digital). We do not have it on our boats, but at the Miami Boat Show, there were several companies selling satellite set-ups that will move to compensate for the boat movement; even easier for use at the dock. :thup

James TX/SD
 
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