C-Ranger 25
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Pat Anderson
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OK, this is ABOUT the time when the first C-Ranger SHOULD be complete or nearing completion, and I cannot get down there with my camera - can SOMEBODY go by the C-Ranger factory and snap a bunch of pix of current progress please?
We were there on Tuesday and they were getting ready to mate the top with the hull. They were doing some final grinding and had planned to get it mated before the day was over. We left to get a bite to eat and as we passed by the shop around 6:30, there was no sign of life. Either it went on very smoothly or they decided to wait until morning.
The top looked great and I'm really surprised how much space there is in a boat that's only 25' long. I think ours will keep us satisfied for some time, although there are still mumblings of a 30' to 32' version in a few years. Personally, I hope a larger version will still be designed for 2 people (with a fold down or 2 for others in a pinch). I would not be interested in a 2 stateroom boat in the 30' range. I would be looking for more living space, not sleeping space.
Right now the first boat is running about a month behind and that delay is expected to be the same for future deliveries (our hull #7 is now pushed out to July). From what I've seen so far, it'll be worth the wait.
Of course, for the 2nd time in a row, we forgat the camera. I'm flying out of SEATAC Weds. night. I'll try to remember it this time and stop by.
Art Learmonth
The top looked great and I'm really surprised how much space there is in a boat that's only 25' long. I think ours will keep us satisfied for some time, although there are still mumblings of a 30' to 32' version in a few years. Personally, I hope a larger version will still be designed for 2 people (with a fold down or 2 for others in a pinch). I would not be interested in a 2 stateroom boat in the 30' range. I would be looking for more living space, not sleeping space.
Right now the first boat is running about a month behind and that delay is expected to be the same for future deliveries (our hull #7 is now pushed out to July). From what I've seen so far, it'll be worth the wait.
Of course, for the 2nd time in a row, we forgat the camera. I'm flying out of SEATAC Weds. night. I'll try to remember it this time and stop by.
Art Learmonth
Pat Anderson
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According to Jeff Messmer, C-Ranger 25 #1 was in the Opening Day parade through the Montlake Cut. This seems like a strange decision rather than bringing it to Lopez...there may be reasons, but it would seem to have made a LOT more sense to bring it to the Lopez CBGT to show off to people who care rather than parading past people who don't really give a sh*t...He also said that sea trials for purchasers should be able to happen just before or just after the Poulsbo Trawler Fest in mid-June.
Pat while I kind of agree - most of us know a fair amount about the boat already and those inclined to buy in the near term are unlikely to change that decision based on an appearance at Lopez (though I would have liked to see it and I know you would have LOVED it). The crowd at Montlake cut however is huge on opening day and represents a lot of potential new customers who know nothing about the boat. If I was in charge, I probably would have made the same decision.
As an ex opening day parade marshal, I'd pray for all of them to go away. :wink:
Seriously, I think it was a good decision to do the parade. Many are there just to watch the fun 'n' games, but also many boaters who could be prospective customers. Very inexpensive advertising IMO.
Dusty
Seriously, I think it was a good decision to do the parade. Many are there just to watch the fun 'n' games, but also many boaters who could be prospective customers. Very inexpensive advertising IMO.
Dusty
Down Pat down..... 
You guys that are within an easy days' drive of the factory and right in the middle of all that beautiful boating waters sometimes forget just how blessed you are.... You could only have the internet for updates, and when the time really happens rather than very open predictions of dates, often far too un-accurate to predict buying the cost saving $350-$500 worth of round trip tickets, $200 of rental car....and burning up basically a week to take a peak at the boats... and we get to pay that little....or not so little particuarly with fuel pricing as it is..... shipping charge to get the hulls over to the east coast... Hummm....wonder if running a forcast of just how many of each hull type will be produced in a business year, add up the estimated total shipping charge of their destination (dealerships) which should be known as our boats are forcasted for the year....then, just average all that shipping over the cost of the boats by lenght... You can ship up to 3 (I think) 22' or less boats on a truck/trailer, and only one or two in the 25 and over range.... Hummmmm I know that is going over great over on the west side.... :smile :smileo :smilep :wink
Dusty..thanks for your help in the parades of past. Some real good times I have had down in Bayou La Batre Alabama on The Blessing of the Fleet Parade at the start of shrimp season. Now, if being there dockside as they stroll by does not get your heart thumping to want a nice trawler/work boat....go ahead and run yer' but thru a chum machine, put yourself to good use out by the oil rigs, and stop taking up good oxygen...!!! :smiled Of course our Gov' was again on the TV last night...and due to the storms (Katrina) and most of the fleet still washed up on land... the focus is on how to get them (the fleet) back in the water...and working again. No water parade this year. Bummer. Strong folks down there and very self sufficient too. They will be back.
Now for us Non-Locals..... what are the dates of this said NW parade that is to have CR-25 in it, what town or island is it on... as to allow me to start looking at tickets!!!
Pat...they spoiled us for sure when they showed up at the Blakely Island dock during the gathering. That was for sure one great event....even without the TC255 showing up....but we again were blessed when it did show. What a night!!! What a gathering... What a great time with great folks. :thup :smiled :beer
You guys that are within an easy days' drive of the factory and right in the middle of all that beautiful boating waters sometimes forget just how blessed you are.... You could only have the internet for updates, and when the time really happens rather than very open predictions of dates, often far too un-accurate to predict buying the cost saving $350-$500 worth of round trip tickets, $200 of rental car....and burning up basically a week to take a peak at the boats... and we get to pay that little....or not so little particuarly with fuel pricing as it is..... shipping charge to get the hulls over to the east coast... Hummm....wonder if running a forcast of just how many of each hull type will be produced in a business year, add up the estimated total shipping charge of their destination (dealerships) which should be known as our boats are forcasted for the year....then, just average all that shipping over the cost of the boats by lenght... You can ship up to 3 (I think) 22' or less boats on a truck/trailer, and only one or two in the 25 and over range.... Hummmmm I know that is going over great over on the west side.... :smile :smileo :smilep :wink
Dusty..thanks for your help in the parades of past. Some real good times I have had down in Bayou La Batre Alabama on The Blessing of the Fleet Parade at the start of shrimp season. Now, if being there dockside as they stroll by does not get your heart thumping to want a nice trawler/work boat....go ahead and run yer' but thru a chum machine, put yourself to good use out by the oil rigs, and stop taking up good oxygen...!!! :smiled Of course our Gov' was again on the TV last night...and due to the storms (Katrina) and most of the fleet still washed up on land... the focus is on how to get them (the fleet) back in the water...and working again. No water parade this year. Bummer. Strong folks down there and very self sufficient too. They will be back.
Now for us Non-Locals..... what are the dates of this said NW parade that is to have CR-25 in it, what town or island is it on... as to allow me to start looking at tickets!!!
Pat...they spoiled us for sure when they showed up at the Blakely Island dock during the gathering. That was for sure one great event....even without the TC255 showing up....but we again were blessed when it did show. What a night!!! What a gathering... What a great time with great folks. :thup :smiled :beer
O.K. Pat, John, and other prospective Ranger 25 owners,
I e-mailed Jeff at the factory asking for some feedback on any sea trials and also about Webasto heaters and propane stoves. I know he is busy but I'm sure he will research and answer our questions. Although a few more e-mails might show the level of concern a little better.
I e-mailed Jeff at the factory asking for some feedback on any sea trials and also about Webasto heaters and propane stoves. I know he is busy but I'm sure he will research and answer our questions. Although a few more e-mails might show the level of concern a little better.
Pat Anderson
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Great, thanks. Jeff also monitors C-Brats of course, as you can see from his occasional posts as in the "blisters" thread. So hopefully we will be hearing from Jeff in the not-too-distant future.
sportner":1nqhvp3y said:
Received a report from Jeff at the factory. He has only been on the Ranger 25 one time in the water but thought it ran out nicely. Hull #2 and #3 are in production and he expects to have another boat for sea trials in 4-6 weeks. Production will be slow until the process is documented and flowing properly. He does think the idea of the Webasto heater is a good one. A butane stove is offered as standard equipment but a propane stove may have to be installed by an outside source or DIY. It doesn't seem like propane would be a difficult addition either way.
Just as a point of clarification, butane and propane are both very similar gases derived from petroleum refining.
Butane has a little more heat in it because it has more bonds to break when burning. (Butane is C4H10, whereas propane is C3H8).
Different gas fuels intended for different uses can be more of one and less of the other, or vis-a-vis. Sometimes there blended in order to accomodate low ambient temperatures in the winter to avoid solidification.
Butane is used more in small, non-reusable or refillable appliances to have more energy in less space, e.g. lighters of various types and small stove/lantern canisters.
Propane is used more for applications where bulk transfer and storage volume are not as much an issue, i.e., home heating, RV heating/refrigeration/cooking, etc.
I much prefer propane cooking and heating aboard a boat for ease of operation. One just has to take all the precautions, have quality equipment and safety devices, and the knowledge and perseverance to make it work.
Joe.
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Butane has a little more heat in it because it has more bonds to break when burning. (Butane is C4H10, whereas propane is C3H8).
Different gas fuels intended for different uses can be more of one and less of the other, or vis-a-vis. Sometimes there blended in order to accomodate low ambient temperatures in the winter to avoid solidification.
Butane is used more in small, non-reusable or refillable appliances to have more energy in less space, e.g. lighters of various types and small stove/lantern canisters.
Propane is used more for applications where bulk transfer and storage volume are not as much an issue, i.e., home heating, RV heating/refrigeration/cooking, etc.
I much prefer propane cooking and heating aboard a boat for ease of operation. One just has to take all the precautions, have quality equipment and safety devices, and the knowledge and perseverance to make it work.
Joe.
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Pat Anderson
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And if you DO make a mistake in plumbing the propane, it IS "rocket science" or similar to the science of rockets? :lol: Incidentally, there are ads out now for fiberglass propane tanks that don't rust or corrode - they look pretty slick actually...
sportner":2zmgn9cp said:
Often "Propane" stations actually have Liquid petroleum gas, which is a blend of propane and butane. Also Butane will not vaporize when the temperature gets close to freezing. The plumbing will be identical for both types of gas. (If running pure butane, the orifaces on the burners might be slightly smaller).
Aluminum tanks are a good compromise for a boat--there is minumal if any corrosion. I personally would not use steel tanks on a boat because of the risk of rust/corrosion.
I always put in a selenoid valve activated by a switch in the galley to turn the propane on, turn it off at the tank, when not to be used for any length of time, or leaving the boat. Also I like a sniffer in the bottom of the bilge, and under the stove. The sniffer will close the selenoid valve if it alarms, as well as emitting a loud noise. The tanks are always placed so that any gas which leaks, will drain overboard.
Aluminum tanks are a good compromise for a boat--there is minumal if any corrosion. I personally would not use steel tanks on a boat because of the risk of rust/corrosion.
I always put in a selenoid valve activated by a switch in the galley to turn the propane on, turn it off at the tank, when not to be used for any length of time, or leaving the boat. Also I like a sniffer in the bottom of the bilge, and under the stove. The sniffer will close the selenoid valve if it alarms, as well as emitting a loud noise. The tanks are always placed so that any gas which leaks, will drain overboard.