C-Dorys For Sale - eBay ads

I'm no expert on EBay but am on a dealer guitar site and see all kinds of games played with that thing. I've also seen instances of where a person puts a very expensive item up and only recieves one bid for some ridiculous amount ($50 for a $3000+ guitar). I've often wondered what I would do in such circumstances and is why I made the original reply I did. Would you be obligated to ship or sell your boat simply so someone else can brag about how he stole this, etc., etc., etc., off EBay? If you're the buyer, have you truly been wronged by transfering your lowball electrons to a page and not have them forced on someone else? I don't know. I do know I'll stay way away from EBay and any "no reserve" type sales so I never face such issues. There are many simply rabid about that place, pro and con.

Back to boats.
 
Man...this is better than a soap opra....

As the C-Dory Sales......or not.

William/Mediaman: Wow... well... who knows what all will take place. Repower options????
 
flagold":1i9dgr3u said:
I've also seen instances of where a person puts a very expensive item up and only recieves one bid for some ridiculous amount ($50 for a $3000+ guitar). I've often wondered what I would do in such circumstances and is why I made the original reply I did. Would you be obligated to ship or sell your boat simply so someone else can brag about how he stole this, etc., etc., etc., off EBay?
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This is why auctions have reserves and listing prices. Nobody is ever obligated to accept less than they want, if they use these options.

If you list an expensive item with no reserve and no minimum, you are agreeing to sell it for $1, if that's the high bid - regardless of the item's worth. It's a gamble, but when you list this way, you knowingly accept the risk. The hope is, that a "no reserve" auction stimulates more bidding, driving up the price. However, when it fails and you get burned by a low winning bid, there's nobody to blame but yourself.

flagold":1i9dgr3u said:
I'll stay way away from EBay and any "no reserve" type sales so I never face such issues. There are many simply rabid about that place, pro and con.
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Personally...I never use the place to sell, and only buy if it's a relatively inexpensive item at a screaming deal. And to ensure I don't get caught up in a bidder's war, I only snipe - JBidWatcher is my tool of choice.

If I'm looking for a more expensive item or have something to sell, craigslist works much better for me; face-to-face local transactions have far less risk, there are no fees, no shipping hassles, etc.
 
Da Nag":3th2ou6l said:
If I'm looking for a more expensive item or have something to sell, craigslist works much better for me; face-to-face local transactions have far less risk, there are no fees, no shipping hassles, etc.
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I have to agree about craigslist.org and add that the traditional newspaper classified ad types are quaking in their boots over that site. I picked up 4 take-off tires including deluxe billet wheels off a 2006 Silverado like mine for less than the cost of two of the wheels alone, plus the seller mounted 'em for me. And no, they weren't "hot"wheels.

As far as ebay goes, I've been buying and selling since 1999, and the "new" ebay is, imho, far less friendly than it used to be. Yup, sniping is the only way to go, and my fave is esnipe. I still find that one can legitimately beat ebay store prices, albeit only slightly, if ya froogle around a bit first.

With craigslist ya gotta be strong and not get bogged down reading "casual encounters" ads though....

Don
 
mediaman":y4hsj5yr said:
I had over horsepowered the by 15HP which I also did not know (rated for 55HP and I had a 70 on it) and that may have contributed to the situation.
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I can't claim to know much about C-Dorys, yet to see one even in person, but I got the impression that this 16' boat has about +500lbs (~380 engine and ~144 fuel) at/near the transom. Also, I had asked to view/inspect the boat ("Greetings, is the boat available for viewing in Raleigh, or perhaps near Wilmington?" in the questions section), and the request was declined. These two issues concerned me enough that I did not bid.
As I have said before, I have a Honda BF50 waiting for good transom, and I do my own rigging - mediaman, are you interested :) ?
 
Ray... that is the exact engine I had on my 16' C-Dory cruiser....and I simply loved the boat...and should have not sold her. That was the 1st C-Dory I had owned...and could not believe I could use it for about 2 years.... a lot of hours and miles.... and get $300 less than I paid for the rig. That is why I bought the 18 Angler when it became available... They are just great, small, simple, tuff as nails boats. I had twin 6 gallon plastic tanks in the back of mine... and if you burn 12 gallons on a 16' C-Dory with a 50 Honda.... you are no where near where you started. Great range. I did keep two props. One for when just me and another person was "day triping" around in the boat...and another for when I was "loaded for long range travel and camping..." As I recall a 10 & 13 pitch prop set.
 
What kind of flat-water cruise speed & range would you generally set-up and see on your 16, Byrdman? I'm thinking of selling the Whaler and going to one of those for a dink-boat.
 
Well... it was so good the best I can recal was I ran down to the 1st Dam on the Alabama River from Montgomery and back one day... so that takes care of any current issues... just me in the boat... and i think I burned between 11- 14 gallons in the 100 river miles. I actually did not mean to go all the way...but just got kind of zoned out....and kept going... and had burned "some" off the 1st of the 2 tanks on a previous trip to the river....putting me starting somewhere around 9 or 10 gallons on board..... was running low and got a farmer on the river to "attempt" to pour some out of a 5 gallon Jerry (GI) can...that was left over from last year in his shed, with no funnel or nozzel.... and I'd say about 2 to 3 gallons actually went into the fuel tank (along with some can junk) and not all over it and the dock. ... You can ask Bill and El how short on fuel supply the AL River can be...

Now I know that is way....way not accurate... but the best I can do from memory. My "best guess" is somewhere in the 8 mpg range....but for sure would be better for one of the folks who have one now to respond. The bottom line is that it got such good mileage...that I did not even figure fuel cost into a trip back then... I do recall re-fueling in Destin FL one day....at a real nice marina.. A 6 pack of Heiniken cost more than my fuel.. and I had to put up with the remarks from a college age punk who made some ...remark...about not believing he came all the down the dock (about 100 yards) for that... Well...in his defense....most of his customers were the sponsorship boats fueling up for the deap sea tournements....and were all taking on in the 200+ gallon ranges.... It was kinda neat just shuffling thru all those guys throwing many hundreds of dollars at fuel alone... so I just wined a little louder about the 6 pack costing more than my fuel... :mrgreen:
 
and were all taking on in the 200+ gallon ranges.
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I don't miss those days at all . . . :beer

On the 22, the guys I boat with are consistantly amazed at how much fuel we don't use. Who said having fun had to cost a boatload in fuel?

Thanks BM.
 
flagold - I have a 16 Cruiser with a Honda 50 and can, under ideal conditions cruise at 29 knots. Any wind or chop will decrease the cruising speed. I find 14 to 18 knots to be the most comfortable cruising speeds. In rough water 11 to 14 knots and snotty conditions 7 to 11 knots.

Even under ideal conditions, I find anything over 24 knots a little uncomfortable, especially when I have a light load (under 1100 lbs). It is tolerable but it just seems like the boat gets a little flighty when you approach that 28 to 29 knot range because you have to trim the bow up to reach it. I do have a homemade permitrim on the engine and could not approach these speeds without it.

I normally carry around or just under 1250 lbs on the boat and at times in the 1350 lb range. With the load in the 1200 to 1250 lb range, the boat seems to handle the best. It handles fine loaded to 1350 lbs also and will still top out at 28 knots, it is just that I am 200 lbs or 17% over the rated capacity. I have had as much as 1475 lbs 28% over the rated capacity on it and with that, it is a little sluggish but will still get up on a plane. Don’t know what its top speed is with that kind of load. I never tried to find out.

I have 2 – 6 gal portable tanks and a 3 gal portable tank and I usually carry 3 – 2 gal gas cans with me. I average just over 8 mpg so theoretically I have a range of 170 miles. The last time out I put 95 miles on the boat and used 12 gallons of gas. I did have some stiff head winds at times and strong tides in places (Case Inlet and the Tacoma Narrows) in Puget Sound.
 
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