c-dory value

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theleverbeef

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Hi, I am looking at a 1982 22ft c-dory Marben classic. It has a 115 mercury 4 stroke, and 20hp Honda kicker. The big motor has low hours and was new in 03, the kicker new in 06. Very little use. The boat is well maintained and appears to be in good shape. It has various electronics that all work. Also a trailer. The asking price is 17950. Is this a reasonable asking price. Thanks for any responses!
 
What other options does it have? Those can add value to the end user. What you really need to ask is based on what is in the market right now does it appear to be a good deal? A good deal is a state of mind. I wouldn't say that your over paying if you feel you got a good deal. Then again, I would say on the surface this appears to be slightly high. But that's my opinion. Recently there was a boat on this forum that was a hull and separate motor. The motor had some hours and needed about $2000 worth of work. He wanted 15k for his package. Had no electronics. If you compare those on this sight, craigslist, and so on and then come to the conclusion your a buyer than go for it. Owning a CD is a great thing, when gas prices go up we still go out! Having a newer motor and kicker is a plus.
Good luck with your decision.
 
A new motor would cost ~$7000. A new kicker ~$2000. The motors aren't new, but low hours on an outboard certainly is a good thing. Throw in the trailer, if it's got brakes and good tyres, and that's ~$1500. So that leaves ~$10,000 worth of hull and electronics (whatever they are.) Yes, I can do arithmetic, but everything's used. That seems like a good deal.

If the hull isn't cracked or sagging (have someone check,) you can get that boat and use it this summer. Or you can buy a boat that needs some work and spend this summer getting it fixed.

Boris
 
Thanks for the response, I have always been fond of these boats and don't want to pay more than what's fair for a 30 year old hull. The boat appears to be in very good shape considering its age. It has a furuno radar and plotter. Lowrance GPS. CD player. Down riggers. Dual batteries w/ switch. VHF radio. 26 gal fuel tank. If basically 18000 seems fair ; I'll pursue things further. Thanks for the response.
 
I don't know where you are at, but here it would have been long gone.....18,000 for a decently running and good operating boat is very reasonable in a CD 22.
 
I'm down here on the lwr Columbia river, thanks for the response! Shy of bottom paint, it seems turn key. I'll test run it and go from there. Sounds like a reasonable asking price based of what you guys are saying. Thanks for the help!
 
We just sold a 2005 Suzuki 115 4 stroke for $4500. So the engine is worth abot that, plus some for the rigging. Then figure kicker, trailer, and stuff. I don't have a good handle on what the older C-Dory's are worth.

In the end, I would have the boat surveyed. This will give you a report on structural condition and a market value.
 
Good idea on the surveyor! Thanks
Has anyone ever had spray in bed liner used as bottom paint. I know a guy had it done to an aluminum boat and loves it. Been on for years. If I buy this boat it would be wet year round other then getting pulled for maintenance.
 
theleverbeef":vyevfkw1 said:
Good idea on the surveyor! Thanks
Has anyone ever had spray in bed liner used as bottom paint. I know a guy had it done to an aluminum boat and loves it. Been on for years. If I buy this boat it would be wet year round other then getting pulled for maintenance.
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Yup, Redfox did it almost 10 years ago!

I don't remember any complaints.

You might PM or email him, as he doesn't check in daily (I think).

Redfox

Sounds like a good idea for rough weather grip, hiding imperfections in finish, etc.

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
theleverbeef":jb4hvjk6 said:
Good idea on the surveyor! Thanks
Has anyone ever had spray in bed liner used as bottom paint. I know a guy had it done to an aluminum boat and loves it. Been on for years. If I buy this boat it would be wet year round other then getting pulled for maintenance.
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Never heard of that being done. Whatever else it does, that textured surface isn't going to make your boat go faster or use less fuel! Maybe it's good for protecting the hull when beaching on a rocky shore?

Does the guy with the aluminum boat keep the boat in the water for months at a time? Fresh water? Salt?

As far as I know Linex and the like don't have anything in them that kills aquatic critters or prevents them from attaching. I'd be very wary of putting truck bed liner on a boat that is going to stay in the water. It sounds like it might be a great surface for stuff to grow on. I'm sure others know more than I about the subject.
 
Sea Wolf":364mp9l9 said:
theleverbeef":364mp9l9 said:
Good idea on the surveyor! Thanks
Has anyone ever had spray in bed liner used as bottom paint. I know a guy had it done to an aluminum boat and loves it. Been on for years. If I buy this boat it would be wet year round other then getting pulled for maintenance.
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Yup, Redfox did it almost 10 years ago!

I don't remember any complaints.

You might PM or email him, as he doesn't check in daily (I think).

Redfox

Sounds like a good idea for rough weather grip, hiding imperfections in finish, etc.

Joe. :teeth :thup
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Whooa!

I thought you were asking about a hull liner inside the cockpit!

Should have read more carefully!

Never heard of it being used as BOTTOM paint!

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
I've seen bedliner material used on aluminum boats. One of the reasons was to make the hull less likely to hang up on rocks, when running the river, as aluminum can be a bit "sticky". The other application was for older riveted hulls that were prone to leak. Sealed them up tight!
 
Just a note:

I've heard that bottom paint on an aluminum (alloy) hull requires special consideration, least the active agent (copper) and aluminum hull form a corrosive battery cell!

Copper based anti-fouling paints cannot be directly applied to aluminum hulls, but must have special primers applied first. See here.

You probably know this, but this note will serve to alert newer readers of the consideration.

Good Luck!

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
Hello from Iowa,

From another point of view.

We are on our third CD in five years.

We started out with a 1983 CD Classic with a 90 Johnson, which was completely dismantled and renovated.

This turned out to be a very cool looking boat considering the quality interior that we made for it here at our furniture factory.

That boat looked very cool, was fast but could be a very rough ride because of the flat bottom design of early CD hulls.

We sold the 22 and purchased a 1990, 16’ CD Angler, we loved that “little boat” which ultimately turned out to be for us a “little boat”.

This last weekend was our first launch of the 2004 CD Angler purchased in early January, NOW, I understand what all the fuss is about C-Dorys.

I’m sure someone can fill in the details, but I believe the hull design changed somewhere around 1987 (please comment).

We thoroughly enjoyed the much smoother ride of the newer hull design, the boat in general, handling, speed etc.

Coming home after lunch, up river, we did encounter some strong winds along with rough water, rollers etc. and the boat performed marvelously, very smooth, not a rough ride at all.

With the flat bottomed 1983 the trip home would have been far, far less comfortable, with the 16’ we would probably taken lots of water over the top.

However, with either boat we would have gotten home safe, but the point here is with the newer hull design/s we got home, not only safe but very comfortable.

In my opinion, If you have a choice, money better spent would be on a CD with the newer hull design.

Best regards,

Ron Fisher
 
Appreciate the info, this has been the first one in my price range, in my area. I'll keep all options open; hoping to keep whatever we do buy for a while.
 
Connie Fisher":1hj3jiwt said:
I’m sure someone can fill in the details, but I believe the hull design changed somewhere around 1987 (please comment).

Ron Fisher
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CORRECT! The Classic hulls were replaced with the 1987 model Cruiser and Angler, probably starting with the 1987 Boat Shows.

Joe. :teeth :thup 1987 C-Dory 22 Cruiser, hull number 286, keel laid January 7, 1987: HIN: DOR22286A787
 
I've put bed liner paint on a pick-up's bed. After seeing that paint, I can think of no reason to put bed liner paint on a boat's hull.

The stuff has no anti-fouling capability, is rough (which is why I put it on the pick-up,) and would look like heck. It would protect the bottom from abrasion in grounding, but a better solution is to not ground the boat.

So the question really is: why would you do it on a C-Dory? Any answers? It's not bottom paint and it's not epoxy sealer.

Boris
 
Was only a thought considering the fact that the boat will be wet year round; a possible do it once application! Other glass boats I've owned, seem to have needed bottom paint every 5 years or so. It is a pain and expensive!
 
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