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C-Dory not for rent!
- Thread starter ak-cd
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Sounds like a reasonable price. The only thing I would be concerned about is the damage/insurance aspects. I think you really need to work out a plan underwhich the renter pays for insurance since there could be damage to the boat that really isn't the renter's fault (e.g. getting hit by an uninsured boater) that may not be covered under your insurance when the boat is operated by someone other than you. I think once you look into the cost of insurance that will cover a renter, the cost may need to go up. I'd probably also make a 1 hour check-out cruise (charged of course to the customer) a requirement. That way you can be sure that the person taking your boat out has competent boat handling skills.
For comparison, here's pricing on renting a 23' Bayline Trophy out of Anacortes - most of the places I've looked at don't have a boat comparable to a CD22 for rent. Typically the available boats are either larger (30'+) or small - e.g. 16' kickers.
Weeky rate (all seasons for this boat) 1395
Daily Insurance: $ 26
Refundable Security Dep.: $ 500
For comparison, here's pricing on renting a 23' Bayline Trophy out of Anacortes - most of the places I've looked at don't have a boat comparable to a CD22 for rent. Typically the available boats are either larger (30'+) or small - e.g. 16' kickers.
Weeky rate (all seasons for this boat) 1395
Daily Insurance: $ 26
Refundable Security Dep.: $ 500
Capt'n Bill
New member
Would love to work out a trade with somebody sometime. We live on the Big Island of Hawaii and own a C-Dory 22. Miles of remote coastline on the West side of the island great for cruising, although not much in the way of harbors with the types of amenities people on the mainland are used to but great weather and excellent boating water & fishing. Would love to swap C-Dorys sometime with someone in Alaska.
2450.00 a week for a 16 year old boat / motor for a week that sleeps 2 or 2 and a child. Just on paper if you did not know what a dory was.... Well sounds a little high. But find people who love Dorys and Alaska and you could fill a weekend or two. Drop the price by a grand and its almost cheaper than bringing my own up there. Let us know how it goes..... I might need to rent mine. Could that pay the bill on that new 25............hm? :roll:
Great idea! The only thing I would worry about is novice boaters hitting the dock and maybe other boats while in the marina. That scares me. Although if anyone from this site wants to rent out Plankton out of Homer just let me know. Also if anyone wants to visit Homer AK and wants to split the gas I would be happy to take any C-brat Members out. You have to be friendly and be a C-brat member though. I love taking folks out fishing. Unfortunately none of my friends or co-workers like fishing and I end up going by myself most of the time. Even my girlfriend refuses to go as she gets horribly sea sick.
Just my two cents on the differences between Alaskan waters and the lower 48. There are few "Rental Fleets" up here and most people are very hesitant to rent their personal vessels out due to the numerous everyday hazards. You may be able to rent an aluminum skiff, but finding a decent safe boat with a cabin is much more difficult.
In the Sitka Sound area and surrounding waters, you really need to know the hazards and the safe spots that you can run to due to the dangers. Down south I seldom ran across someone who had lost a boat under them, had to go into the water in survival suits or lost a life or relative. Up here it is MUCH more common. So renting out a boat to people who are new to the waters is not seen as a wise long term business plan.
We all enjoy Red Fox's stories of his adventures and modifications, what we may not realize is that he is an exceptional captain to have done all that he has and returned time and time again and with his "old" C-Dory in
one piece. Just about everyone in Sitka personally knows someone who has passed away out on the water. Greg is more than he leads us to believe, and my hat is off to him and his exceptional ability!
As I am very closely aligned to the Charter industry (bunch of them are in my place as I write this) I can assure you that their prices are as well higher than what I encountered down south. I'll also pitch in that the local charter boat operators are HIGHLY qualified and the best private captains I have ever encountered.
To fish and/or boat up here is like no other place I have had the pleasure of enjoying. I have repeatedly heard the same sentiments from the guests disembarking on our dock and recapping their adventures in my lobby. You see stuff that just no longer exists elsewhere, but you also die within 10 to 15 minutes after hitting the water, even in a survival suit. It just happened yet again to a skilled skipper and his crew last month out of Sitka. I have spent easily 4 grand in the past year to upgrade our boat with the proper survival gear in order to boat year round, the locals almost insist that you do so before they will share their knowledge and secret spots. Coast Guard up here is MUCH more involved in your daily trips, missing some safety gear insures a minimum fine and frequently means an immediate escort back to town. They have a vested interest in your safety, they lose great people too.
I personally would not rent out our C-Dory up here due to the above for anything less that a grand a day. A great deal of that amount would go into comprehensive insurance with the remainder put aside to repair damages.
$350 a day is a steal!
In the Sitka Sound area and surrounding waters, you really need to know the hazards and the safe spots that you can run to due to the dangers. Down south I seldom ran across someone who had lost a boat under them, had to go into the water in survival suits or lost a life or relative. Up here it is MUCH more common. So renting out a boat to people who are new to the waters is not seen as a wise long term business plan.
We all enjoy Red Fox's stories of his adventures and modifications, what we may not realize is that he is an exceptional captain to have done all that he has and returned time and time again and with his "old" C-Dory in
one piece. Just about everyone in Sitka personally knows someone who has passed away out on the water. Greg is more than he leads us to believe, and my hat is off to him and his exceptional ability!
As I am very closely aligned to the Charter industry (bunch of them are in my place as I write this) I can assure you that their prices are as well higher than what I encountered down south. I'll also pitch in that the local charter boat operators are HIGHLY qualified and the best private captains I have ever encountered.
To fish and/or boat up here is like no other place I have had the pleasure of enjoying. I have repeatedly heard the same sentiments from the guests disembarking on our dock and recapping their adventures in my lobby. You see stuff that just no longer exists elsewhere, but you also die within 10 to 15 minutes after hitting the water, even in a survival suit. It just happened yet again to a skilled skipper and his crew last month out of Sitka. I have spent easily 4 grand in the past year to upgrade our boat with the proper survival gear in order to boat year round, the locals almost insist that you do so before they will share their knowledge and secret spots. Coast Guard up here is MUCH more involved in your daily trips, missing some safety gear insures a minimum fine and frequently means an immediate escort back to town. They have a vested interest in your safety, they lose great people too.
I personally would not rent out our C-Dory up here due to the above for anything less that a grand a day. A great deal of that amount would go into comprehensive insurance with the remainder put aside to repair damages.
$350 a day is a steal!
Wellll.... I agree on the local knowledge of the Alaskan waters...and just about any area waters you are not familar with. But...I must say that some type of "C-Dory Condo Group" would be real interesting. I have offered FreeByrd to those I know ....and have been on their boats and know they understand how to run a boat..... i.e. Dusty, Les, Roger, Joel... and some others... But at the same time... I know my paw-n-law has been operating boats, all be it a pontoon boat...but "a boat" for over 20 years.... and I get nervous when he is even on my boat as a passenger....and I always sit towards the front when on his boat as to allow me the best opportunity to be ready to jump my short little....ok...not so little butt into the water and hopefully miss a big crash... Interesting thread for sure. The day I test drove FreeByrd thru Desception Pass with Les beside me, my 1SG and another soldier of our unit on board....and one of those big ol whirlpools "just appeared"... well...that was way new to me.. Quickly looked to Les for guidance and not really knowing him at the time what I gathered was.... this aint real good...but it aint going to kill us.... so... my 1st instinct told me the quicker I got thru it...and the less time I spent "in it"... the better. So I punched it a bit... we turned a bit... and I felt better with it in the wake behind us. I never has asked Les what he was thinking... but I will some day ... But... it would be great to know that there are C-Dory boats that we could use in other parts of America than where we live... So...without that... I'm fixen up C-Byrd to travel.
Wow! What a fantastic thread!!
My wife and I are CD wannabe's. We have both taken the very intro USPS class, and are currently half-way through the intermediate seamanship classes (8 weeks; 101 and 102). We've also been to a CD dinner (thanks B~C) and gathering (thanks Helen O'), out on a few CDs thanks to Crazy Frazey, Doghouse, and Helen O'; truly incredible hospitality!
Combining this with my previous sail race days, we know we're learning a lot, but we also know you don't actually -learn- this stuff in the classroom. In fact, I'm sure you'd all agree you never stop learning it!
Beyond the USPS classroom, however, it is extremely helpful to 'listen in' on these conversations. Clearly some real experts out there, and very generous in sharing their combined wisdom.
With backbacking (incl off trail) and motorcycle touring experience, I consider myself to be a 'conservative adventurer'. I am a perfect example of someone that 'might' be interested in such a rental, but believe me, I will not take this lightly.
e.g. I'd want to plan an itinerary that (as much as possible) included conservative surroundings and (plentiful) safe harbors. And as disappointing as it might be, it would be wise to realize (in advance) that we might spend several days ($$) sitting out the bad weather and getting re-acquainted with the cribbage board! (Of course, we would have the Wallas . . . !)
Thanks again - keep the info coming!
iggy[/i]
My wife and I are CD wannabe's. We have both taken the very intro USPS class, and are currently half-way through the intermediate seamanship classes (8 weeks; 101 and 102). We've also been to a CD dinner (thanks B~C) and gathering (thanks Helen O'), out on a few CDs thanks to Crazy Frazey, Doghouse, and Helen O'; truly incredible hospitality!
Combining this with my previous sail race days, we know we're learning a lot, but we also know you don't actually -learn- this stuff in the classroom. In fact, I'm sure you'd all agree you never stop learning it!
Beyond the USPS classroom, however, it is extremely helpful to 'listen in' on these conversations. Clearly some real experts out there, and very generous in sharing their combined wisdom.
With backbacking (incl off trail) and motorcycle touring experience, I consider myself to be a 'conservative adventurer'. I am a perfect example of someone that 'might' be interested in such a rental, but believe me, I will not take this lightly.
e.g. I'd want to plan an itinerary that (as much as possible) included conservative surroundings and (plentiful) safe harbors. And as disappointing as it might be, it would be wise to realize (in advance) that we might spend several days ($$) sitting out the bad weather and getting re-acquainted with the cribbage board! (Of course, we would have the Wallas . . . !)
Thanks again - keep the info coming!
iggy[/i]
I kinda like the idea of flying in and renting a boat for a week or two...but for that sort of money I would expect a Nordic Tug 26...or a much larger boat.....I think that $1500 a week is tops to rent a C-Dory... I often take folks out that want to try a C-Dory...and I think maybe renting a week to see for sure is a smart thing... but $2500 a week is laughable...(sorry) Heck that would make a bunch of boat payments...
Joel
SEA3PO
Joel
SEA3PO
Camper Cat
New member
Two weeks ago rented a 26 foot aluminum vee hull. I paid $825.00 for one day priviledge out of Whittier. $350.00 a day is a bargain.
I re-read the posts.....and I don't think I want anyone else messing up my boat either....running into docks,other boats...rocks etc...cigar burns on the upholstry... wine stains (that I make are OK but straingers no)
I don't think I will rent my boat either....people just don't take care of
stuff they rent....
Joel
SEA3PO
I don't think I will rent my boat either....people just don't take care of
stuff they rent....
Joel
SEA3PO
starcrafttom
Active member
I just joined this thread and I remember a site I once read. A lodge in ak. was renting c-dorys about 5 years ago. he had 4 22's in his fleet and then a bunch of bigger 28 cruizers of a differnt brand. I can't remember the price or the lodge but he had a good web site all about it.
Maybe Less wants to get us initiated to what a C-Dory can do! When we went through Deception there was significant current and some traffic. Just before we got into it two large fishing boats came through from the other side at different angles. When we got under the bridge the two wakes converged from different directions right in front of us. All I could do was try to pick the best spot to drive though. I learned how well the boat can take waves.
The first time I saw a C-Dory was when they rented them at Friday Harbor. I think they only rented the 16ft models and I only saw them 1 time many years ago.
Steve
The first time I saw a C-Dory was when they rented them at Friday Harbor. I think they only rented the 16ft models and I only saw them 1 time many years ago.
Steve