Byrdman & Terry On The Road Again!!

Byrdman":2vkoadmn said:
Opps...forgot the topside pic... Awesome viewing for sunrises
Byrdman
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Byrdman, you don't need any sunrises, the look on your shining happy face is bright enough..............and if it doesn't seem bright enough to you...just fire up that radar behind you and you'll truly "glowwwww in the dark!" :roll:

(I agree with Tom, a viewing at the Everett Launch Ramp would be awesome......just don't pick a day I'm working.. :wink .
 
A few pictures of the new "Byrd-mobile" (minus "The Roost") from a very happy day for Patrick today are posted in the Kingfisher album. Sorry my "nerdery" is not up to putting the link in here but i am sure womeone will.
Patrick, thanks for letting us share your day, you will get a CD with many more pictures. Wish I could have seen your face when Les dove into Canoe pass instead of Deception.

Merv & Kathy
 
Patrick-

Congradulations on your new boat, Byrdman!

Looks like you've got a good case of that $100,000 two(or more)-footitis fever!

Do I see another Rosborough in the shed behind yours?

Has Les become a Rosborough dealer?

Does Dusty have one yet?

Do we need for form a sub-chapter of Ros-Brats?

Joe. :smile
 
I am pleased that Les is selling Rosborough, as I have long thought they were a fine boat. Now that the Ranger Tugs are being sold by SkipperCress in Anacortes, that means we have some real choices, always a good thing.

Warren
 
Message removed Tues AM.

My apologies -

I made some follow-up comments comparing two brands of boats, but (see below) Byrdman is right -- this is a 'road trip' thread, not a 'comparative QC' thread. He wants to share his adventure, and meet as many people as possible along the way, and I don't want to contribute to throwing a wet blanket on that. (I saved a draft of my original post for later, if and when it becomes appropriate to re-visit the issue.) Otherwise - TRIP ON.

iggy
 
Joe... Iggy...and others.. PLEASE... Let's focus here on this thread and it's topic.

Yes, obvious I have bought a Rosborough from Les....but as the topic suggest.... this thread is simply about a road trip of two C-Brats (who both own C-Dory boats...if that is of real concearn to any),....and our road trip back and forth our Great Nation of America.

So guys (and ladies)... please let's keep this thread running about us having fun on our trip...and seeing all the C-Brats we can along the way...no matter what got us on this trip....and not batter about this boat vs that boat or another... We can start other threads (as we do and have :mrgreen: ) and batter about anything.... as we do...and have fun doing it. I gotta say the thread about how many C-Brats does it take to make a post was one of the best in years.... :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: So true....and aint we glad too!!

Thanks to the many C-Brats who have emailed, called, showed up, and particuarly those who have housed us two displaced east coast C-Brats. We are about mid way on this journey and trip...and we are for sure having a great time.
 
Well,
I have liked the lines of the Rosborough for years, but they are decidedly different 'animals' from C-Dories. Of course, Byrdman's goal was the long open cockpit which C-Dory does not provide, so no competition there. The sunken head compartment by the forward bunk appeals to some, but I am just not a fan of having my head by the head all nite long. It does leave a more open view though.

As for Quality Control, the Rosborough's owner's group posts numerous after delivery problems, most fixed to their satisfaction - somewhat like the C-Dory experience. I don't think either one is heads above the other in preventing those oddball, after delivery problems.

I do think both boats appeal to a similar crowd - ppl who are out to enjoy life and the water and good friends. Ppl who have learned to slow down a little and take in their surroundings.
 
Ohoh..... Back to FOCUSING on this topic - Has anyone been forewarnnig the poor ppl on the East side about just what is headed there way????

Noodle-cane Patrick!
 
So true John.... May stop by your way enroute home. Sure would like to do some touchy feely stuff on the gen box you have set up. Sweet.

Byrdman
 
Pat,

the boat and gen box are on Grand Lake, OK... Just NE of Tulsa, almost to the Kansas, MO, Arkansas border.

Do you have your boat registered? You could dip it in Grand Lake on the way home! I think you'd feel right at home. For some reason the ppl in that area are more like the Alabamians and other Southerners than the rest of Oklahoma - a very laid back crew. Yes, they even go noodling in the marina... something you'd not see in Northern marinas.

At first I asked about that swimming amongst the docks, the firecrackers, go-karts, four wheelers and hopped up boats - were they legal? One guy at the marina said that just about everything is "legal" in that part of Oklahoma - "You can pretty much do as you please as long as you don't bother someone else."

I had to think of the Byrdman when I heard that!

Good luck, you guys! I'm sure you're havin' fun..


John
 
GRUMPY/Merv & Kathy: Many many thanks for your photos of our initial sea trials and calibration run. These were for sure fine moments much waited for and will be cherished for sure. Favors like this is exactly what makes the C-Brats what it is.

I am truly grateful and look forward to receiving the disk of photos. Awesome gift for sure.

Byrdman
 
Sea Wolf":hmhn1kyu said:
Sorry, can't stop the wheels from turning tonight!

In some simple ways, the Rosborough RF-246 seems like an in-between compromise between the semi-dory planing C-Dory design and the displacement/semi-planing C-Ranger 25 Tug.

I remember Dr. Bob Austin (Thataway) made a comparison of the Rosborough RF-246 designs with a C-Dory once, so I thought I'd dig it up for interesting reading for our members.

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(Sat. Jul 15, 2006 9:11 pm)

"I suspect that he is asking to compare a semi dory and a Down East type of boat. The lobster boats, Duffy, and the nearest to the C Dory is the Rosborough 246. There are a fair amount of cross over between these two boats--and some Rosborough owners have been C Dory owners.

The Down East type of boat is often straight run aft, flat buttocks with a round chine, , and a moderate V foreward. It is also a semidisplacement boat. My personal opinion is that all in all the C Dory is a more stable and better sea boat.

The Rosborough often are much slower than the C Dory and are run at displacement speeds--with twins up to 15 to 17 knots and occasionally with large engines up to 30 knots. My feeling is the C Dory is more effecient in use of fuel. But the Down East boats are less likely to pound.
They are good boats, and I had considered one when I was making the decision on the Tom Cat 255. I am still a member of their list and plan on making a cruise with this group later this year.

It is a little like comparing a C Dory and A Sea Sport--both have some good features. The Rosborough has pilot house doors on the side--I see this as a negitive, because of water intrusion. The Rosborough has perment foreward facing seats, the V Berth is slighly shorter than the C Dory, and the head is more cramped than the 25 or Tom Cat--and below the helm console. The side deck access is about the same as C Dory. There is an extended cabin top over the aft cockpit--and a high and low freeboard model.

There are a number of other down east boats--but the Rosborough comes to mind when thinking of comparison with the C Dory.
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Bob Austin

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P.S. (from Sea Wolf):

1.) Did you know that the six US dealerships for Rosborough boats include three C-Dory dealers? --- E.Q. Marine (Les), Cutter Marine (Maryland), and Wefing's (N.C.)?

2.) Rosborough only produces 40-50 boats a year, according to their website.

3.) I wonder how a surge in interest in Rosborough boats will affect the resale value of similar sized C-Dorys?

4.) I may be wrong on some of this, but can't stop thinking about the impact of this possible set of developments.

5.) Please don't kill the messenger!

Joe. :smileo

Wefings http://wefings.com/ is located in the Florida
panhandle.


I joined the RF-246 list located
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RF-246Owners/

So far still a lurker.
 
Pat, of Byrdman persuasion -

Info on genbox... I got the basic idea from the boxes on Hayes' gen box site.:

http://www.hayesequipment.com/hayes_products.htm


Their Honda i2000 boxes are smaller, but have to have more doors and flaps to reach the on/off switch, the choke, the oil check/fill and the Pull/start cord. The 24 inch underbody box allows room to reach all that from the top opening lid, plus allows me to store four 1.2 gallon spare fuel tanks.

I bolted mine on the swimstep using 6, 3/8" bolts, but I'm now sure 4 would have done the job. As such, the box is easily removable and the holes could be filled with flat head bolts - so no major boat mods needed.

Located aft of the transom on the swim step eliminates most of the dangerous gas and exhaust fume problems from the boat itself. I've been able to run the unit with the lid open and with it closed. It is very quiet when closed and runs about 4.5 hours at full throttle running the A/C. I have the extended run gas tank, but it is a problem to lash amongst all the hoses and cables going to the engines, so I opted to just refill the tank with a cheap siphon or the small 1.2 gal tanks.

Maybe you have room on your swimstep for that big of a box. I got the extra aluminum diamond plate from a local company that builds ambulances and firetrucks. Bought scrap from them.

Have a good trip! I'll try to get some better inside photos next time I'm down to the lake.

John
 
Thanks for the box talk. Today we will hope on board Aloysius for day 2 after a bit of tweeking this and that, and to allow some folks a ride for thier help in all of this...and some gatherings....and some overnighters.

Our flight pattern back to the SE goes something like this:

Day 1: Load boat and make it to Pendleton, OR from Stanwood area...about 340 miles.

Day 2: Hit Salt Lake City, UT general area, about 550 miles.

Day 3 & Day 4: From Salt Lake...head towards Kansas City, KS...about 1070 miles... and pick up Father-In-Law in Kansas City...for last leg home to Nashville area...

Day 5: Kansas City to Nashville TN/Heartland Rivers area. Depending on what day this ends up being....and who has time for some river time.

Thanks again to all... now...gotta go get out on the water for some more sea trials.

Byrdman
 
Many thanks to the gang of C-Brats that made another shake down cruise very enjoyable. Yep, had 8 "full size" passengers on the boat with plenty of room. We had a blast and for sure got a good day of electronical navigation, via the last 8 miles we could not see beyond about 20' over the bow....and could almost barely see the rock walls of Desception Pass as we motored thru at the end of the journey around the islands. Beautiful lands/waters here for sure.

Taking the boat back to Les for some more tweeking and instalation of some parts that have now arrived after us being able to see some final results of where things end up.... It is all a process, and Les is doing a great job.

Aloysius, is a family name. It was my Father's middle name, and he and I loved our times on the waters prior to loosing him to cancer in mid 90s. He and I were together when I saw one of the very first RF246 boats on the TN river, from the cliffs of JP Coleman State Park. It was slow trolling behind a tug and multi-coal barge taking care of business. Not sure when the name was first used in our Family history. German name, and has a base meaning of great warrior. Fitting name for the Man who raised 6 of us, along with several other cousins...and aunts. Thanks for asking.

Byrdman
 
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