Boating Magazine favorable review
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Hi Don,
Thanks for adding the info on the Boating Mag article. Will have to see if I can find one out here.
Where does the Brat # come from? Don't think I have noticed that used here. When I used to be active on the Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group (same type of site) we used to use the hull number in the signature block: as in "M-15 #348".
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
Thanks for adding the info on the Boating Mag article. Will have to see if I can find one out here.
Where does the Brat # come from? Don't think I have noticed that used here. When I used to be active on the Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group (same type of site) we used to use the hull number in the signature block: as in "M-15 #348".
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
20dauntless
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Speaking of hull numbers, is there any way to figure that out? And which other pilothouse boats were covered in the test? Which model C-Dory was in the test?
Captains Cat
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hardee":1vqyd11k said:
Harvey, if you look at the "Memberlist" at the top of the page, and sort on date joined, it gives you a "number". In this case, Don was #483 to join.
On edit: Not so apparently, I looked. So Don, where does it come from?
Charlie
hardee":2ah5v01o said:
Charlie gave a good explanation, though it's easier if you click on the profile button at the end of any user's posting, look at the address in your browser's address bar. At the end you'll find "&u=(number). That number is his "Brat number." In your case, it's &u=2202 so your Brat number is 2202.
I'm a long way from single or double digit brat. Sea Wolf Joe, for example, is Brat #36 but then again he taught McCain to sail back in the pre power boat ages.
I had hoped to start a trend toward posting your "Brat number" on here, mainly because similar things are done with boat hull numbers, RV numbers etc., and I enjoy knowing who the truly "old timers" are. If it catches on, fine. If it doesn't, that's good too.
As for Charlie, here's someone for him to watch out for. It happened last year but knowing Charlie, he needs an occasional reminder.
The door bell, rings, and Charlie answers it. Here stands this plain but well dressed kid, saying, "Trick or Treat!"
Charlie asks the kids what he's dressed up like for Halloween.
The kid says, "I'm an IRS agent."
Then he takes 28% of the man's candy, leaves, and doesn't say Thank You.
Don,
Thanks for the help on this. I looked to see if there was a place to put it in the profile. Not exactly, so I'll try and find a place to slip it in. I like your idea of using it. Maybe there is a chance it could be included into the poster information in the left hand column. Maybe listed like the MMSI # some folks have.
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
Thanks for the help on this. I looked to see if there was a place to put it in the profile. Not exactly, so I'll try and find a place to slip it in. I like your idea of using it. Maybe there is a chance it could be included into the poster information in the left hand column. Maybe listed like the MMSI # some folks have.
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
>>>November 2008 issue of Boating Magazine has a "Cabin boat shootout" for boats under $50k. Page 52, to be exact. >>>
Can someone scan and post a .pdf of that article?
I tried seven newsstands looking for Boating before giving up back a month or so ago when it supposedly hit the streets. That magazine is probably the #1 in circulation boat magazine, yet in my area is simply not available, except by subscription it seems.
Can someone scan and post a .pdf of that article?
I tried seven newsstands looking for Boating before giving up back a month or so ago when it supposedly hit the streets. That magazine is probably the #1 in circulation boat magazine, yet in my area is simply not available, except by subscription it seems.
Captains Cat
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Sneaks":2dwf9u9t said:
:lol: :lol: Don't know how I missed this one. It really happens each year but on April 15th. And the little #$@!%$#&* doesn't take 28% he takes 33%!!! :cry
Charlie
Sam Walker
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Hi Larry. Thanks for posting the article for the rest of us. Interesting take by the author.
Interesting article, but they're such different boats, it's like comparing apples, oranges, kiwis, bananas, coconuts, and artichokes!
"$50K Cabin Boats" -Yeah, right!!!
They must have been chosen for the article because they were frequent advertisers with the magazine.
Just an article to further please their advertising customers, and written that way too!
Should have just compared similar pilothouse and fishing boats that are marketplace competitors!
Joe. :teeth :thup
"$50K Cabin Boats" -Yeah, right!!!
They must have been chosen for the article because they were frequent advertisers with the magazine.
Just an article to further please their advertising customers, and written that way too!
Should have just compared similar pilothouse and fishing boats that are marketplace competitors!
Joe. :teeth :thup
Larry, Thanks for posting this. Interesting, I agree with Joe, not exactly comparing simular boats. :roll: But, there was some positive bias for the C-Dory if anyone is looking for 1. A hardtop "Pilot House" boat, and 2. An economical, efficient boat. :idea Apparently they haven't seen the Arima HT 21 or 23, Or the Trophy HT. Seems both would have been closer than the "ski" boats, even an Armstrong or Hewescraft cabin would have been as close a comparison.
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
Pat Anderson
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Worse than that, Joe. After Motor Boating magazine had the feature on Anna Leigh and Daydream cruising in Alaska, which was to all intents and purposes a pure feature article, Scot Reynolds told me that C-Dory had to pay quite a bit to have the magazine do the article. So much for objective editorial content.
Sea Wolf":77qcz552 said:
Matt Gurnsey
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I hate to the bearer of bad news- but there is no objective editorial content in boating publications. There is no Tooth Fairy or Santa Clause either.
Being a writer for a couple of boating mags, I can tell you that publishers want to support the industry as a whole, and their advertisers in particular. WHich makes good business sense. It's not like the industry is a big as the car industry.
Boat tests are good information, as far as they go. They are heavy in specs and a good overview of a boat, but don't expect hard hitting journalism, either.
One of my answers to the questions "how come you guys never get really critical of a boat you test?" is that we never test crappy boats. Partly because crappy boat builders usually don't spend money advertising (ask me how I know) and because the editor can just not find room in the schedule for that boat.
AMazingly enough, I have had dealers who couldn't make the time to let us aboard a boat for a review- which made no sense to me, because the reviews are more about marketing. WHen I do a boat test, I do try to find what it is that makes that particular boat different than the other like it on the market.
The only magazine that was objective Powerboat Reports, although they had their biases as well, and look where they are. Part of their problem was that every time I finished reading an issue I walked away with a negative feeling about boats and boating. There was no excitement or joy in the writing.
Anyway- that's my insight as someone who has been on the "inside".
Being a writer for a couple of boating mags, I can tell you that publishers want to support the industry as a whole, and their advertisers in particular. WHich makes good business sense. It's not like the industry is a big as the car industry.
Boat tests are good information, as far as they go. They are heavy in specs and a good overview of a boat, but don't expect hard hitting journalism, either.
One of my answers to the questions "how come you guys never get really critical of a boat you test?" is that we never test crappy boats. Partly because crappy boat builders usually don't spend money advertising (ask me how I know) and because the editor can just not find room in the schedule for that boat.
AMazingly enough, I have had dealers who couldn't make the time to let us aboard a boat for a review- which made no sense to me, because the reviews are more about marketing. WHen I do a boat test, I do try to find what it is that makes that particular boat different than the other like it on the market.
The only magazine that was objective Powerboat Reports, although they had their biases as well, and look where they are. Part of their problem was that every time I finished reading an issue I walked away with a negative feeling about boats and boating. There was no excitement or joy in the writing.
Anyway- that's my insight as someone who has been on the "inside".
Wandering Sagebrush
Free Range Human
Hi Matt,
I am going to toss another mag in as a nomination for objectivity. Small Craft Advisor out of Port Townsend seems to fit that bill. They rarely take on power boats as large as the CDory 22s and up, but they usually tell it like it is. I enjoy their publication.
Steve
I am going to toss another mag in as a nomination for objectivity. Small Craft Advisor out of Port Townsend seems to fit that bill. They rarely take on power boats as large as the CDory 22s and up, but they usually tell it like it is. I enjoy their publication.
Steve