After a rather turbulent winter I am ready for a vacation. We are leaving tomorrow, 5/30 for points north for two weeks. We thought we would launch in Olympia and work our way north. Have to meet some of the kids at Blake Island next thursday for a couple days. Are there any must-see spots to stop along the way between Olympia and Seattle? From there we plan on going up Saratoga Passage and across to Friday Harbor. Then some camping out on the islands. We also have reservations at the Best Western in Friday Harbor for two nights, which will give us time to rent scooters and really see San Juan Island. The normal rate at the Best Western for the pet friendly room was $294, they gave us a special for $100 in midweek. They really seem to be competing for business this year. We have the boat and will also be carrying the tent. Bought my yearly permit for the marine parks as well. So if you see a "heavily" laden 16' cruiser lumber by, that would be us.
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Bill Uffelman
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Captain Savage -- have a safe and fun vacation.
Bill Uffelman
Bill Uffelman
lloyds,
At the north end of Saratoga Passage you have a choice of using Deception Pass or the Swinomish Channel past La Conner to Anacortes.
The Swinomish Channel is a more sheltered route and La Conner is a worthwhile stop for lunch. The marina has guest docks and the town has restaurants and shops.
At the north end of Saratoga Passage you have a choice of using Deception Pass or the Swinomish Channel past La Conner to Anacortes.
The Swinomish Channel is a more sheltered route and La Conner is a worthwhile stop for lunch. The marina has guest docks and the town has restaurants and shops.
If you have until Thurs to be at Blake Island, I would suggest a few places in the south sound. Hope Island is a state park where you can tie to a buoy and camp ashore. A beautiful place to visit. McMicken Island state park. Good anchorage, and a few buoys. No camping on shore, but a beautiful DNR beach the runs north on Hartstene Island for almost a mile. (DNR 24). Other places to visit, The Nisqually Reach, Penrose State Park, Kopachuck State Park and Cutts Island, Gig Harbor, Quartermaster Harbor............
I will be in the south sound today and tomorrow, not sure exactly where, but around Hartstene Island. I think I will spend tonight at McMicken Island. I will be monitoring 16. If you are in the area, give me a shout.
Robbi
I will be in the south sound today and tomorrow, not sure exactly where, but around Hartstene Island. I think I will spend tonight at McMicken Island. I will be monitoring 16. If you are in the area, give me a shout.
Robbi
More good tips, thank you. The only problem we have with buoys is we don't have a dinghy, and the dog needs her breaks. But we will make something work. I thought about stopping at Langley and may do that. Gig harbor, Port Orchard, and Kingston are all on the itinerary for sure. Won't go up to Laconner unless forced to. It seems like a really slow trip, and then the chop going through anacortes. But it does make the hop across reasonable. I will be watching for you all. Robbi, any fishing happening down there right now. I was going to bring by bottom fishing rod but looking at your pictures of the coho and cutthroat makes me wonder.
Pat Anderson
New member
If you can get on the dock, Jarrell Cove State Park would be ideal. It is on Harstine Island (or Hartstene if you prefer). Here is a very interesting Wikipedia article on the name of this island. I use Harstine - who can argue with the State Legislature?
Hartstene vs Harstine
Of the several possible ways to spell the name of the island, Hartstene and Harstine are the most used and most popular. Both have been used nearly interchangeably in many published references including Wikipedia, and (http://www.co.mason.wa.us/). Alternate spellings of the name include Hartstene, Harsteen, Harstein, Harstene, Hartstein and Harstine. In 1997 Washington State Legislative action resulted in the name officially becoming Harstine Island [4]
[edit] Spelling/History
On August 18, 1838 a group of ships led by commanding officer, U.S. Navy Lt. Charles Wilkes (1798–1877) and referred to as the Wilkes Expedition or the United States Exploring Expedition left from Hampton Roads in Virginia on the east coast of United States for a round the world expedition. In 1841 the expedition explored much of the west coast including Puget Sound. [5]
The island was named by Lt. Wilkes for Lt. Henry J. Hartstein, ~1801-March 31, 1868.[6] Although he wasn't still a member of the expedition during the Puget Sound survey, his name, as well as that of Samuel Stretch, were given to islands probably because they impressed Lt. Wilkes when they led a successful mission to get supplies to stranded shipmates earlier in the voyage while Wilkes had temporary command of Hartstein's ship, the Porpoise. [7][8]
Some of the confusion with spellings were caused by the man himself. Almost every time his name was published before 1855, the 'Hartstein' spelling was used, including the account he wrote himself of the Arctic expedition he led in 1855. [9] Most maps from the 1840's to the 1890's spelled the island 'Hartstein'. In the 1850's, he started using the 'Hartstene' spelling. His biography was listed in a book published in 1994 called The Concise Dictionary of American Jewish Biography. The authors admit they included some of the 24,000 people in the book just because they had Jewish-sounding names. Whether he was Jewish or not, or if he and his wife just got tired of people mispronouncing the 2nd syllable of their name with a long "i" sound, they definitely made an effort to use the spelling 'Hartstene' from then on. And after he gained a little fame in the 1850's with his Arctic expedition,[10] and then sailing HMS Resolute to the United Kingdom and presenting it personally to Queen Victoria in 1856, [11][12] he used it almost exclusively. There's a photo of him autographed 'H.J. Hartstene'.[13] But there's a Civil War photo of him labeled "Capt. Hartstein". He, his wife, and daughter were each listed as Hartstein on the passenger list of the steamer Fulton, the ship that took them to Le Havre, France in 1867, the year before he died. This was probably because their legal names were required. But his obituary in 1868, his daughter's in 1880, and his wife's in 1903, all used Hartstene. Since map makers knew the island was named after him, they followed suit. The U.S. General Land Office's official map changed from Hartstein to Hartstene between 1883 and 1887. Many maps from the 1860's and throughout the 20th century used Hartstene. The Hartstine spelling appeared on a few maps in the 1890's, followed by Harstine in the early 1900's. [14] The post office on the north side of the island that operated from 1892-1926 was probably always called 'Harstine Island', but who first used that spelling is unknown.
The Captain's family lived in Newark, NJ most of his life, and his ships often sailed out of New York Harbor. The New York Times has digitized all of their newspaper articles since 1851. They're photos of the actual newsprint, and they're well indexed. In searching for every spelling of Harstine, this is how many instances of each spelling that come up pertaining to Henry or his family:
Hartstein-39, Hartstene-7, Harstein-2, Harstene-1, Harstien-1, Hartstine-1, Harstine-0
Five of the instances of Hartstene come after his death.
* Charles Wilkes lists in his 1845 book, Narrative of the U.S. Exploring Expedition, Lieutenant H.J. Hartstein was a member of the crew of the of the United States Brig Porpoise, then joined the crew of the ship Relief at Callao. [15] The Relief, deemed too slow to stay with the expedition, was ordered on July 12, 1839, to bring supplies to Hawaii and Sydney, Australia before returning to the east coast.
* Edmond Stephen Meany reported in his 1910 book History of the State of Washington that Hartstene Island was named for Lieutenant H.J. Hartstein. [16]
* Edmond S. Meany reported in his 1923 book Origin of Washington Geographic Names that Hartstene Island was named for Lieutenant Henry J. Hartstene [17]
* According to the book The Washington Historical Quarterly By Washington University State Historical Society[18] it is Harstine Island, named after an officer whose family name was undoubtedly Hartstene.
* Dr. Harry W. Deegan reports in his 1971 (revised) book History of Mason County Washington That Harstine Island is named for Lieutenant H. J. Harstine of the 1838-1841 Wilkes Expedition. This is mentioned in connection with an exploration of the Mason County area in 1845 by Michael T. Simmons and 8 others that was guided by Peter Borcier who had earlier guided for the Wilkes Expedition [19]
* The web page Hartstenepointe.org sums the naming argument up "Hartstene Pointe Maintenance Association - A gated community on the north end of Harstine Island". The island is named Harstine, but a lot of things related to the island are spelled Hartstene.
[edit] National Historical Places
Harstine Island Community Hall [20]
* Added 1989 - Building - #89000212
* Location - North Island Dr. and Hartstene Island Dr., Hartstene Island
* Historic Significance: Event
* Area of Significance: Social History
* Period of Significance: 1900-1924, 1925-1949
* Owner: Private
* Historic Function: Social
* Historic Sub-function: Meeting Hall
* Current Function: Social
* Current Sub-function: Meeting Hall
Hartstene vs Harstine
Of the several possible ways to spell the name of the island, Hartstene and Harstine are the most used and most popular. Both have been used nearly interchangeably in many published references including Wikipedia, and (http://www.co.mason.wa.us/). Alternate spellings of the name include Hartstene, Harsteen, Harstein, Harstene, Hartstein and Harstine. In 1997 Washington State Legislative action resulted in the name officially becoming Harstine Island [4]
[edit] Spelling/History
On August 18, 1838 a group of ships led by commanding officer, U.S. Navy Lt. Charles Wilkes (1798–1877) and referred to as the Wilkes Expedition or the United States Exploring Expedition left from Hampton Roads in Virginia on the east coast of United States for a round the world expedition. In 1841 the expedition explored much of the west coast including Puget Sound. [5]
The island was named by Lt. Wilkes for Lt. Henry J. Hartstein, ~1801-March 31, 1868.[6] Although he wasn't still a member of the expedition during the Puget Sound survey, his name, as well as that of Samuel Stretch, were given to islands probably because they impressed Lt. Wilkes when they led a successful mission to get supplies to stranded shipmates earlier in the voyage while Wilkes had temporary command of Hartstein's ship, the Porpoise. [7][8]
Some of the confusion with spellings were caused by the man himself. Almost every time his name was published before 1855, the 'Hartstein' spelling was used, including the account he wrote himself of the Arctic expedition he led in 1855. [9] Most maps from the 1840's to the 1890's spelled the island 'Hartstein'. In the 1850's, he started using the 'Hartstene' spelling. His biography was listed in a book published in 1994 called The Concise Dictionary of American Jewish Biography. The authors admit they included some of the 24,000 people in the book just because they had Jewish-sounding names. Whether he was Jewish or not, or if he and his wife just got tired of people mispronouncing the 2nd syllable of their name with a long "i" sound, they definitely made an effort to use the spelling 'Hartstene' from then on. And after he gained a little fame in the 1850's with his Arctic expedition,[10] and then sailing HMS Resolute to the United Kingdom and presenting it personally to Queen Victoria in 1856, [11][12] he used it almost exclusively. There's a photo of him autographed 'H.J. Hartstene'.[13] But there's a Civil War photo of him labeled "Capt. Hartstein". He, his wife, and daughter were each listed as Hartstein on the passenger list of the steamer Fulton, the ship that took them to Le Havre, France in 1867, the year before he died. This was probably because their legal names were required. But his obituary in 1868, his daughter's in 1880, and his wife's in 1903, all used Hartstene. Since map makers knew the island was named after him, they followed suit. The U.S. General Land Office's official map changed from Hartstein to Hartstene between 1883 and 1887. Many maps from the 1860's and throughout the 20th century used Hartstene. The Hartstine spelling appeared on a few maps in the 1890's, followed by Harstine in the early 1900's. [14] The post office on the north side of the island that operated from 1892-1926 was probably always called 'Harstine Island', but who first used that spelling is unknown.
The Captain's family lived in Newark, NJ most of his life, and his ships often sailed out of New York Harbor. The New York Times has digitized all of their newspaper articles since 1851. They're photos of the actual newsprint, and they're well indexed. In searching for every spelling of Harstine, this is how many instances of each spelling that come up pertaining to Henry or his family:
Hartstein-39, Hartstene-7, Harstein-2, Harstene-1, Harstien-1, Hartstine-1, Harstine-0
Five of the instances of Hartstene come after his death.
* Charles Wilkes lists in his 1845 book, Narrative of the U.S. Exploring Expedition, Lieutenant H.J. Hartstein was a member of the crew of the of the United States Brig Porpoise, then joined the crew of the ship Relief at Callao. [15] The Relief, deemed too slow to stay with the expedition, was ordered on July 12, 1839, to bring supplies to Hawaii and Sydney, Australia before returning to the east coast.
* Edmond Stephen Meany reported in his 1910 book History of the State of Washington that Hartstene Island was named for Lieutenant H.J. Hartstein. [16]
* Edmond S. Meany reported in his 1923 book Origin of Washington Geographic Names that Hartstene Island was named for Lieutenant Henry J. Hartstene [17]
* According to the book The Washington Historical Quarterly By Washington University State Historical Society[18] it is Harstine Island, named after an officer whose family name was undoubtedly Hartstene.
* Dr. Harry W. Deegan reports in his 1971 (revised) book History of Mason County Washington That Harstine Island is named for Lieutenant H. J. Harstine of the 1838-1841 Wilkes Expedition. This is mentioned in connection with an exploration of the Mason County area in 1845 by Michael T. Simmons and 8 others that was guided by Peter Borcier who had earlier guided for the Wilkes Expedition [19]
* The web page Hartstenepointe.org sums the naming argument up "Hartstene Pointe Maintenance Association - A gated community on the north end of Harstine Island". The island is named Harstine, but a lot of things related to the island are spelled Hartstene.
[edit] National Historical Places
Harstine Island Community Hall [20]
* Added 1989 - Building - #89000212
* Location - North Island Dr. and Hartstene Island Dr., Hartstene Island
* Historic Significance: Event
* Area of Significance: Social History
* Period of Significance: 1900-1924, 1925-1949
* Owner: Private
* Historic Function: Social
* Historic Sub-function: Meeting Hall
* Current Function: Social
* Current Sub-function: Meeting Hall
Marty stated,
I agree that Edmonds is a great place to visit (and live), although probably not this weekend as it is the Edmonds' Rotary Waterfront Festival weekend http://www.edmondswaterfrontfestival.com/ and the marina will be filled with boats. 20 classic wooden boats are supposed to be making an appearance for those who are interested. http://www.edmondswaterfrontfestival.co ... craft.html
Enjoy your trip.
I agree that Edmonds is a great place to visit (and live), although probably not this weekend as it is the Edmonds' Rotary Waterfront Festival weekend http://www.edmondswaterfrontfestival.com/ and the marina will be filled with boats. 20 classic wooden boats are supposed to be making an appearance for those who are interested. http://www.edmondswaterfrontfestival.co ... craft.html
Enjoy your trip.
I'm surrounded!! Too old to fight and too young to rock. Was going to shrimp today but my partner had to work. (horrid word)
If Les will start working on the old C-Dory Classic just maybe we can make some of these fun gatherings. I'd certainly enjoy a brew or two (Snoq. that is) with some of the mouthy jarheads. :wink: :wink:
Duster
If Les will start working on the old C-Dory Classic just maybe we can make some of these fun gatherings. I'd certainly enjoy a brew or two (Snoq. that is) with some of the mouthy jarheads. :wink: :wink:
Duster
lloyds, Sorry I didn't get back to you about fishing before you left. I just returned from an overnight in the boat and I left about noon yesterday. If you have your computer with you, let me know and I will tell you about some fishing possibilities.
All of the marine state parks with docks in the south sound are nice. Pat is right about Jarrell Cove. Because you have a dog with you, you probably did your research and know where all of the docks are between Olympia and the San Juan Islands! Enjoy!
Pat, must have been a slow day at work. :wink:
Robbi
All of the marine state parks with docks in the south sound are nice. Pat is right about Jarrell Cove. Because you have a dog with you, you probably did your research and know where all of the docks are between Olympia and the San Juan Islands! Enjoy!
Pat, must have been a slow day at work. :wink:
Robbi
Thanks for the suggestions. We just got back last night. Launched in Swantown as planned. $3/night to leave the truck. Real nice marina. Did a night at the State Park on Harstine, then up to Kingston for a night. Then on to Oak Harbor. If any of you ever go there there is a phone in a kiosk by the office that you can use to call the bus and they will come to pick you up on the half hour. Then off to Deception Pass and across to Friday harbor. 28 gallons of fuel, Olympia to Friday Harbor. And we were loaded. Two people, one labrador, gear and supplies for two weeks of camping. Spent the first week on Jones Island. Had the whole island to ourselves. Usually there were three or four boats at the dock but little foot traffic on the island. Ran over to Sucia, went to Deer Harbor, Rosario, Olga, Roche, Snug Harbor, West Sound. Others that I forget. Found one heck of a deal in Friday Harbor, the managers' special at the Best Western. Did two nights there the second week for $100/night. A regular price of $224, and it had a bedroom, kitchen, living room, and bath. Plus a shuttle that would run you around in the daylight hours if necessary. We rented the Geo Tracker from Suzys' Scooters and really took in San Juan Island. We hardly ever saw a cloud, and only had bad water once, on the trip back across last thursday. Ran into R-Matey and a C Dory 25 coming out of the Swinomish Channel. We were on our way to seattle to camp at Blake Island with family members or we would have hit Langley. Not sure we would have been so welcome there as Sue had words with one of the folks working there about the $5 charge for parking to go to the restroom. The trip back to Olympia was smooth as glass, stopped in Gig Harbor for breakfast at Kellys'. Never seen so many nice days in a row this early in the year up there.
lloyds":39jc9ncq said:
Seeing you and Sue out there was certainly a surprise. Wish we could have had more of a visit, perhaps next time. ANITA MARIE was the 25 CD that was with us.
Looks like you picked a good time to travel in the San Juans. The weather's been awesome. So don't be strangers, come on back ASAP.
Ruth & Joe
R-MATEY